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    [WoW] you have to see it that way, 5x high warlord in...

    you have to see it that way, 5x high warlord in CV=instant new job/wife
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    [WoW] as much as I love melee shamans in vanilla, i...

    as much as I love melee shamans in vanilla, i still think for boxing elemental is way more fun unless you have a dedicate dispeller and a healer in your back. And in that regard the ultimate goal...
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    [WoW] https://s16.directupload.net/images/190218/4kklpzd...

    https://s16.directupload.net/images/190218/4kklpzdy.png
  4. Sticky: [WoW] the paladins might be even better since you could...

    the paladins might be even better since you could raid with them aswell, although if Im not mistaken you would only bring 4 pallys for each blessing ...but anyway would certainly be fun to play with...
  5. Sticky: [WoW] for pvp yes, i think the best way would be to...

    for pvp yes, i think the best way would be to have the shaman replacing one of the warrior because he brings ranged slow, purge, wf totem, strength, grounding and ranged interrupt so while your...
  6. Sticky: [WoW] I wouldn't call it relevant considering you can...

    I wouldn't call it relevant considering you can do wpvp all day and not get to the significant ranks for gear...it's rather an unavoidable situation when there is no lfg/lfr/flight mounts then...
  7. Sticky: [WoW] what I'm worried is that they forget stuff like...

    what I'm worried is that they forget stuff like that before releasing the servers, then realize alot of people botting to grind #12+ and then after many boxers have their teams on lvl 60 they remove...
  8. [WoW] for orc shamans its durotar for earth and fire...

    for orc shamans its durotar for earth and fire totem, the most annoying one is water totem as it sends you back in forth in the entire barrens/ashenvale/silverpine forest/back to barrens, and air is...
  9. Sticky: [WoW] Well getting rid of follow in world pvp would...

    Well getting rid of follow in world pvp would mean they gonna do warmode ... and they can't be that stupid people would riot all over unless they have the "YoU gUyS hAvE pHoNeS rIgHt" guy in charge....
  10. [WoW] I would just run them all to the starting zone...

    I would just run them all to the starting zone you're most familiar with and i think you could do the imp quest in vally of trials aswell since there were orc warlocks either. But as already pointed...
  11. Sticky: [WoW] yeah its tough...elemental without ele...

    yeah its tough...elemental without ele fury/lightning mastery is complete crap but resto shaman without manatide isnt probably something a raid would accept unless you got the connections

    I...
  12. Sticky: [WoW] i really like that proposed idea of going resto...

    i really like that proposed idea of going resto shaman boxing for raids, from what I've seen they're quite useful due to mana tide in caster groups, 4-5 would fit just fine in a raid

    So then you...
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    [WoW] since many here are reporting on prot pallys,...

    since many here are reporting on prot pallys, anyone got enganged into pvp with them? is the concecration aoe "freedom" as overpowered as it sounds?
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    [WoW] so despite the warmode system, which should...

    so despite the warmode system, which should actually be fine with ganking questhubs for years because ppl who feel harassed can simply turn it off, multiboxers are not getting warned for sitting in...
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    [WoW] with 4,5 sec concecration cooldown 4 prots have...

    with 4,5 sec concecration cooldown 4 prots have already everything to keep the mobility going, i think adding deathgrip or tremor/purge or even mortal strike/warbanner to that comp makes it even...
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    [WoW] So I have no idea about the numbers but from what...

    So I have no idea about the numbers but from what I've read about talents 4 prot paladins + rnd melee will dominate world pvp since you will have almost 100% uptime on anything with that concecration...
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    [WoW] Hybrid healing was also over the top for ele...

    Hybrid healing was also over the top for ele shamans in the wotlk precata patch but it went to be total shit at lvl 85 so dont have too much hope :p
  18. well since we can't really compete in any rated...

    well since we can't really compete in any rated bracket (5s removed, 3s shit, rbg no follow) and we got "semi banned" from bgs and now also from world pvp, I'm certain they no longer have an issue...
  19. trust me you dont want to face that guy on retail...

    trust me you dont want to face that guy on retail tbc with a caster team even on decent lvl 70 gear
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    [WoW] ok but if its really only for the time you are in...

    ok but if its really only for the time you are in combat i dont see the big problem here even for casters, however you are commited to every fight as running away could become chaotic :D
  21. [WoW] instead of 2s and 3s, well they might work, but i...

    instead of 2s and 3s, well they might work, but i would rather look forward to 6v6 RBG, even without follow if the map designs are small and made around one objective then interact with target could...
  22. The worst thing that happend to my guild mates in...

    The worst thing that happend to my guild mates in wotlk or cata was getting teleportet out of stormwind because they camped the auction house for too long

    personally I've never encountered...
  23. [WoW] Gcd on interrupts went away with wotlk and in BC...

    Gcd on interrupts went away with wotlk and in BC you could even go as far as stacking healing and dps on-use trinkets to maximize damage (30% of healingpower went into spellpower). Other than that I...
  24. [WoW] If the game is not designed with us in mind then...

    If the game is not designed with us in mind then why shouldnt we be able to beat an equally sized group of good players if the boxer is good aswell? Since there is no one in the dev team that...
  25. [WoW] ofc you can always add more toons to compensate...

    ofc you can always add more toons to compensate for a less burst game but for 5 boxing it makes quite a difference especially shamans aint doing that great in legion outside ascendance (well atleast...
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