Why did I pay Paypal to pay for Keyclone with my CC?

It's not a big deal...it's only a buck. I was curious, however, why Paypal is making money off me when I did not use their services? I paid for keyclone, and I was charged 20 for it and a buck to Paypal?

I know it's just a buck, so please don't think im some cheap ass. But, a buck x how many keyclone users? I wish I could charge a buck everytime someone bought a hamburger from McDonalds!

Btw, awesome program. I only have 1 issue with it...

It takes awhile to switch between characters (using split screen). If I die on my main in Pvp, it takes quite awhile for me to switch to my second/third. Anyway to speed that process up? My rig can handle quite a bit more than this.

I would suggest asking Paypal?

I've never experienced them over charging me before, but we're multiboxers... not Paypal support technicians. It's typically best where financial questions are involved to ask the people directly.

I would defiantly check but I think that paypal when you first setup the account with them to pay for something charges $1 to validate the card then within 10 days refunds it. (I think it just puts a hold on it)

I did not setup an account with Paypal. I paid Keyclone directly with a CC. I am asking here, because this is where you ask questions about keyclone account issues. It is the way Keyclone has their billing setup that is causing this billing error.

Thanks for the replies though.

Can a keyclone rep assist?

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I would defiantly check but I think that paypal when you first setup the account with them to pay for something charges $1 to validate the card then within 10 days refunds it. (I think it just puts a hold on it)

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When I had mine verified it was around this ammount .0x cents and .xx cents adding up to less than a dollar. I know sometimes they will charge a fee for money transfers, maybe it was seen as a money transfer, not as a purchase

a keyclone rep? that would be me. the one with the very imaginative name

if you have any questions that generally would not be on a public forum, might i suggest an email (keyclone -at- solidice.com) or a PM from here. of course, there is always the phone number on the website.

as for paypal making $$$... yes, they make $$$ doing the transaction. this is the way of the world... although i was unaware of them charging more then the normal cost to the user. (i'm guessing you set up an account... which you didn't have to do.)

as is, they take quite a heavy percentage from each transaction... since the transaction amount is so low (it's between 5..10% of the price).

[quote='hotdogsrgross',index.php?page=Thread&postID =85628#post85628]I did not setup an account with Paypal. I paid Keyclone directly with a CC.[/quote]

[font='Comic Sans MS, sans-serif']But he doesn't even have a PayPal account...... no relations to PP whatsoever, unless you, KC, use PP to charge the CC, then it would make a little sense to me.[/font]

with or without a PP account, the transaction still flows through paypal

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Originally Posted by 'hotdogsrgross',index.php?page=Thread&postID=85628 #post85628

I am asking here, because this is where you ask questions about keyclone account issues. It is the way Keyclone has their billing setup that is causing this billing error.

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Actually, if Paypal is over-charging you $21, when everyone else on this forum only pays $20, then I would assume Paypal is the culprit.

But... that's just me and it's just a guess. I would kill two birds with one stone -- see if Keyclone knows anything about it and also contact Paypal to dispute the additional charge.


I know from my past e-bay times that Paypal makes money off of CC transactions -- they typically just skim a percentage before giving it to the seller -- though I've never heard of them overcharging the consumer. Paypal doesn't make money off of e-checks. In addition, Paypal will charge sellers who earn more than a certain amount of $$$ per month by making them pay to be able to transfer more than a few hundred dollars into their private banking account each month.

So, from my personal knowledge of paypal, I don't see why they should've overcharged you -- they make their money off of the seller, not the consumer.

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[quote='hotdogsrgross',index.php?page=Thread&postID =85628#post85628]I did not setup an account with Paypal. I paid Keyclone directly with a CC.[/quote]

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But he doesn't even have a PayPal account...... no relations to PP whatsoever, unless you, KC, use PP to charge the CC, then it would make a little sense to me.[/font]

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This ^ ^

Paypal refunded the buck. I was only charged $19.99 for my license of Keyclone.

Now, I can buy those teeth I always wanted.

:P


To be honest, Keyclone rep, I would have paid double the amount for this software. Awesome support, not intrusive at all and it might just have saved my sanity. :)

Paypal does a temporary authorization for the amount of approx 1.00 to verify that the card is legitimate and has available room before charging the full amount.

Blizz does it for character trans and name changes.

If you buy gas at the pump they put a hold on a larger amount as well.

Its great working for a credit card company :P

I've always heard that the credit hold when getting gas was $50. I confirmed it recently when the pump slowed to a crawl and stopped before the tank was full.. at $50.00. :(

The Shell station near my house holds $75. If you get 20 in gas (way back when 20 bucks would actually give you ~15 gal.) then you would have to wait 5 business days to get the $55 back on your account.

Pretty lame.