32bit vs 64bit xp

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06-24-2008, 08:18 PM
hardc0re

32bit vs 64bit xp

Hello there!. Well Since boxing is so addicted, I decided to go with 5 boxing instead. All lvl 15 after 1 day of enormus fun playing. But my computers was a bit gimped, so i went to the store today and bought alot of new parts for my desktop :D
Anyhow i got 3 new computers with amd 64 dualcore 6400 x2. Anyhow im currently running windows xp on all machins 32bit. So the big question is. Should i install windows xp 64 bit ? windows vista 32 bit or 64 bit? Any recomandations is very appreciated.

Regards
Hardc0re (now a member of 5box)

Here is my speccs if needed
GeForce GTX 280
4g ram
7200rpm hardrive

Run 1 account on main computer, and 2 on each of ther others. I dont currently have fps problems at all! just wonder if it would improve or not ;)
06-24-2008, 08:35 PM
Kissell13

Im using Vista x64 Ultimate with no problems though others have had issues with it.
06-24-2008, 08:51 PM
Bena

Only reason to upgrade to 64 bit is if you want to use more than 4GB of ram. If you're running 1 or 2 clients per box then 4 gigs is enough.

I'm running 5 clients on 1 box, 8gb ram, vista 64 bit with no problems
06-24-2008, 08:59 PM
hardc0re

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Bena',index.php?page=Thread&postID=78721#post7872 1

Only reason to upgrade to 64 bit is if you want to use more than 4GB of ram. If you're running 1 or 2 clients per box then 4 gigs is enough.

I'm running 5 clients on 1 box, 8gb ram, vista 64 bit with no problems

Well the question was more or less. Is it any big diffrence? i would windows be faster or anything? even i only have 4g ram.. but i heard alot about getting more out of the processor..?
06-24-2008, 09:14 PM
Bena

There shouldn't be much difference with xp32 vs xp64. WIth vista64 vs xp64 Any minor increase/decrease would be probably related more to driver maturity.
06-24-2008, 10:03 PM
entoptic

wow will not notice a difference at all. 64 bit is for memory only.

If you can return them get one computer with a quad core and 8 gigs of ram. With the extra money you can get a dope video card and save money in the long run.
06-25-2008, 06:14 AM
merujo

not only for memory. certain applications (and i have a fellow MB on my guild, that is always telling me to switch over to 64bit's) get improved, and i think wow bennefitcs from it. some virus dont work on 64 as well :P
when i get on vacations i will switch to 64bits. btw, i know keyclone can work on 64bits, but can synergy ?
06-25-2008, 10:18 AM
Anahka

If you want to use your 4GB go for Vista 64 imo. XP 64 is nearing it's EOL anyway. Plus driver-support for XP64 has always been meh. As for performance I doubt the average user will notice a huge difference in 32 vs 64.

You might have the odd app that doesn't work on Vista 64 but that's probably more due to Vista then the 64-bit part.
06-25-2008, 10:46 AM
Catamer

I use Vista x64 without issue

Let me refraise... I use Vista x64 and have no problems running WOW or keyclone.
installing keyclone with the Vista ACL active was a problem for me, it wouldn't let me unzip the files and it wouldn't tell me why I couldn't unzip the files.
I hate Vista in general but if you disable all of the security junk they put into it it's not that bad. disable the ACL and use your own firewall.

The only reason I didn't use XP64 is that I couldn't possibly get xp64 to load on my newer machine. there were no drivers for the new chipsets while Vista just loaded and worked.
06-25-2008, 10:52 AM
krum

Just for the record, I run 4 instances of WoW on an E2180 "Pentium Dual-Core 2.0GHz" CPU OC'd to 2.8GHz, 2GB of RAM, with a GeForce 6600LE card in a crappy Shuttle. This is truly a slow video card by today's standards since it doesn't have a fan it is underclocked compared to a typical 6600. I only get around 15fps on each of 4 windows, but for the secondary box this acceptable. I'll probably upgrade this machine to an 8800GT in the near future, but my point is that the CPU and RAM are not extraordinary and I wouldn't recommend dropping a ton of cash on overpowering a secondary box.

I know it's not relevant to the discussion, but in comparison my main machine is a Q6700@3.2GHz, 8800GT, 8GB of RAM although I can only use 3.4GB since I'm on XP32.
06-25-2008, 11:11 AM
Icetech

xp64 is EOL? We were just ok'd to sell XP for almost another full year and it will be supported at least til 2011...

BTW.. i just switched one of my machines to xp64 from 32bit.. the main thing i noticed is it seems to access drives faster... which is where alot of my lag was coming from in wow...
06-25-2008, 01:57 PM
krum

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Icetech',index.php?page=Thread&postID=79035#post7 9035

BTW.. i just switched one of my machines to xp64 from 32bit.. the main thing i noticed is it seems to access drives faster... which is where alot of my lag was coming from in wow...

This doesn't make a lot of sense. Did you reformat the disk? That would have defragged the drive.
06-25-2008, 03:10 PM
Bena

bit of topic but.. if you upgrade from xp to vista and have a logitech mouse that's older than 2yrs? you'll have to upgrade to a newer mouse. Otherwise the mouse uses vista driver; logitech won't work. You'll have the basic buttons but any extra stuff won't work.
06-25-2008, 03:30 PM
krum

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Bena',index.php?page=Thread&postID=79145#post7914 5

bit of topic but.. if you upgrade from xp to vista and have a logitech mouse that's older than 2yrs? you'll have to upgrade to a newer mouse. Otherwise the mouse uses vista driver; logitech won't work. You'll have the basic buttons but any extra stuff won't work.

This is good to know! I was planning on upgrading to Vista64. I've pretty much put Logitech on my shit list for good after getting scammed by their webcam fraud. Sadly the old Logitech MX1000 mouse is probably the best wireless mouse ever made, and I still use it regularly. I guess since they don't make it anymore, I really don't need to buy anymore of their crap.
06-25-2008, 03:38 PM
Nitro

For 5 boxing my shamans I built a machine as follows:

Q6700
Striker Extreme Mobo
8GB Ram
5x 10k Raptor Drives
2x 9800 GTX

I made it so it dual boots Vista 64bit and Windows XP Pro 32bit

I received no gains running vista 64 so i play exclusively on xp pro 32 and i even disabled one of the video cards, one was better than two. I know ill find a use for it later but for now i have 4gb+ of ram and a 9800gtx that goes unused.
06-25-2008, 06:02 PM
entoptic

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Icetech',index.php?page=Thread&postID=79035#post7 9035

xp64 is EOL? We were just ok'd to sell XP for almost another full year and it will be supported at least til 2011...

BTW.. i just switched one of my machines to xp64 from 32bit.. the main thing i noticed is it seems to access drives faster... which is where alot of my lag was coming from in wow...

but then it is based on your drive speed.