Leveling Speed, or: best way to level?

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06-17-2008, 10:00 PM
Mendicant

Leveling Speed, or: best way to level?

I'm still pretty new to multiboxing. Started only 8 days ago. So far I have my 5x shaman squad up to level 30 (woo woo!). From 1 to 20 I leveled at Azuremyst and Bloodmyst isles, and now I'm paying people gold to run me through SM cath many many times. Right now, at 30, I have 1d7h /played.

After I ding 40 I'm going to stop doing SM (possibly before then). How fast does a level usually take at that level when questing? I may try to get ZF runs, but I've had bad experiences with that in the past-- its really tough to find an competent skilled runner.

So I guess I'm asking, whats the best way to level 40+?
06-18-2008, 12:56 AM
ElectronDF

Why not just pay someone to play the game for you? I have never payed for a run, but what do you hope to gain by getting run through places? There is something to learn about how to pull, what to do about adds, who/when to heal, assisting, etc. If you are 70, but can't do crap what did you really gain? It takes time to learn how to work in a group and your alts are a group. You might learn that you want to learn a certain weapon skill cause it helps when mobs are magic immune. What happens when mobs are nature immune, what is your plan for that? What about ones that AOE instead of just normal cast (AOE doesn't get eaten by grounding totem)? What if you learn you want more spirit on your gear since you cast a lot? You learn how to play by playing. If you don't want to learn how to play, just go grind mobs and you won't have to ask anything here.
06-18-2008, 01:19 AM
Mendicant

I have 2x 70s. It doesn't take me 5 days of play time to learn the basics. I won't be instancing with others since I've got a full party of 5 chars, and it is not likely I will try raiding with them.

When I need to learn those things I will learn them. Why do you care if it happens at lvl 20 or lvl 60? Leveling weapon skills takes very little time. My primary goal is getting them to 70 so I can begin the gear up and PvP. Yes, I enjoy PvP more than PvE. I also derive satisfaction out of finding the fastest way to level. Questing is okay, but really it is the leveling I enjoy.

Honestly I probably was asking for this type of response... I should've just searched the forums for information as I am sure several of these threads already exist. I was hoping for a more narrowed response however, from people who have progressed passed my level range in what they found was most effective.

P.S. You actually profit from paying someone to run you through. I pay 30g/run for SM cath. The DEs from the bosses alone are worth about 27 gold. Silk/silver/greens are at least 5g a run (more most likely) and every few runs a blue BOE will drop which is another 50g or so.
06-18-2008, 01:21 AM
nogbog

Mendicant,
Do you have characters at 70 already? a shaman at 70?
What do you want to do when you get all your shaman to 70?
Different levelling strategies are different for different people
06-18-2008, 01:26 AM
nogbog

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Originally Posted by 'Mendicant',index.php?page=Thread&postID=75828#pos t75828

I have 2x 70s. It doesn't take me 5 days of play time to learn the basics. I won't be instancing with others since I've got a full party of 5 chars, and it is not likely I will try raiding with them.

When I need to learn those things I will learn them. Why do you care if it happens at lvl 20 or lvl 60? Leveling weapon skills takes very little time. My primary goal is getting them to 70 so I can begin the gear up and PvP. Yes, I enjoy PvP more than PvE. I also derive satisfaction out of finding the fastest way to level. Questing is okay, but really it is the leveling I enjoy.

Honestly I probably was asking for this type of response... I should've just searched the forums for information as I am sure several of these threads already exist. I was hoping for a more narrowed response however, from people who have progressed passed my level range in what they found was most effective.

P.S. You actually profit from paying someone to run you through. I pay 30g/run for SM cath. The DEs from the bosses alone are worth about 27 gold. Silk/silver/greens are at least 5g a run (more most likely) and every few runs a blue BOE will drop which is another 50g or so.

Boosting is the fastest with 4xlowbies + 1x70

Questing is quite quick at level 45+
Running instances with your 5 characters depends on how fast you can clear an instance. If it takes you 20-30 minutes to run an instance, u should go with instances. If longer you should stick with quests.
06-18-2008, 01:27 AM
Mendicant

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Originally Posted by 'nogbog',index.php?page=Thread&postID=75831#post75 831

Mendicant,
Do you have characters at 70 already? a shaman at 70?
What do you want to do when you get all your shaman to 70?
Different levelling strategies are different for different people

70 hunter, 70 druid
As I said, I'll be PvPing mostly. I may try running heroics with them, but mainly it'll be PvP.
06-18-2008, 01:40 AM
nogbog

[quote='Mendicant',index.php?page=Thread&postID=758 34#post75834]
[quote='nogbog',index.php?page=Thread&postID=75831# post75831]Mendicant,
Do you have characters at 70 already? a shaman at 70?
What do you want to do when you get all your shaman to 70?
Different levelling strategies are different for different people[/quote]70 hunter, 70 druid
As I said, I'll be PvPing mostly. I may try running heroics with them, but mainly it'll be PvP.[/quote]If you go the questing route, see this post
[url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=7943']Horde Hinterlands - A Multiboxers Questing Nervana[/url]
It tells you which zones have good multi-boxing quests (kill quests basically)
06-18-2008, 02:09 AM
Mendicant

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Originally Posted by nogbog',index.php?page=Thread&postID=75836#post758 36]
[quote='Mendicant',index.php?page=Thread&postID=758 34#post75834]

[quote='nogbog',index.php?page=Thread&postID=75831# post75831]Mendicant,
Do you have characters at 70 already? a shaman at 70?
What do you want to do when you get all your shaman to 70?
Different levelling strategies are different for different people[/quote]70 hunter, 70 druid
As I said, I'll be PvPing mostly. I may try running heroics with them, but mainly it'll be PvP.[/quote]If you go the questing route, see this post
[url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=7943

Horde Hinterlands - A Multiboxers Questing Nervana[/url]
It tells you which zones have good multi-boxing quests (kill quests basically)

I'm alliance tho :(
06-18-2008, 02:40 AM
Gadzooks

RE: Leveling Speed, or: best way to level?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Mendicant',index.php?page=Thread&postID=75785#pos t75785

I'm still pretty new to multiboxing. Started only 8 days ago. So far I have my 5x shaman squad up to level 30 (woo woo!). From 1 to 20 I leveled at Azuremyst and Bloodmyst isles, and now I'm paying people gold to run me through SM cath many many times. Right now, at 30, I have 1d7h /played.

After I ding 40 I'm going to stop doing SM (possibly before then). How fast does a level usually take at that level when questing? I may try to get ZF runs, but I've had bad experiences with that in the past-- its really tough to find an competent skilled runner.

So I guess I'm asking, whats the best way to level 40+?

Download a questing mod, and follow it - they're pretty good, the free ones, anyway.

I've heard the Zygor mod and guides are very, very efficient, but they cost money - $50, which is a bit much IMHO. (I'd pay $20, but not $50)

I don't have a problem with you paying for instance runs, everyone does it, do what you want *legally*. it's one way of leveling your toons, and it's pretty silly to criticize a multiboxer for doing something out of the ordinary. :) If you can get ZF runs, go for it - I know on my server Tanaris chat is always full of people looking for ZF runs.
06-18-2008, 02:49 AM
nogbog

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Mendicant',index.php?page=Thread&postID=75840#pos t75840

I'm alliance tho :(

wow..... that sucks man..
sorry.
06-18-2008, 06:01 AM
Creazil

I only have experience levelling 4 shamans, and the number 4 helped me alot. I levelled like this ..

1-8 - Questing.
8-40 - I had a friend that was willing to boost me.
40-60 - Most of the time questing, with occasional instance runs (boost aswell). I avoided gather quests as much as possible, but if the follow-ups were worth it I did them .. To catch up with the lost exp from not doing gather quests, we took a few instance runs now and then.
60-70 - Primary instance levelling with my friends 60 Tankadin, occational questing. I dicided to do all the Hellfire quests (even gather quests, Zzz) .. to obtain gold for my epic mount and a few other things, and the fact I can't do them at level 70 for the same profit, because of the level gap.

Boosting
This is ofcause only doable, if you're playing 4 characters .. I felt it went really fast, even compared to levelling a single character and I had no problems at all. I am unaware the best way to level as a full party setup, my brother is considering starting 5 characters, and he asked me how to level the most efficient way .. and I have no clue until level 40 :-)

Creazil
06-18-2008, 07:54 AM
Mendicant

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Creazil',index.php?page=Thread&postID=75882#post7 5882

Boosting
This is ofcause only doable, if you're playing 4 characters .. I felt it went really fast, even compared to levelling a single character and I had no problems at all. I am unaware the best way to level as a full party setup, my brother is considering starting 5 characters, and he asked me how to level the most efficient way .. and I have no clue until level 40 :-)

Creazil

If someone else is boosting you, you can just leave 1 of your 5 characters outside every run. Leave out the one with highest xp and they'll stay pretty close together xp-wise.

I'll probably try ZF at 40, though I saw someone on this site say that BRD is a good place to go at 40 if you are being boosted... has anyone else tried BRD around 40? Also, does anyone remember how long it took them to level questing at 40?
06-18-2008, 08:38 AM
Havelcek

I used to be 100% convinced that questing is the only way to level, but then I rerolled on Mag which is PvP and I'm rethinking that approach. After a long Sunday spent in the Tarren Mills area I spent so much time getting ganked and having to corpse-run, or wait for town NPCs to respwan, that I'm starting to think that it might be more efficient to just grind in instances, where noone can bother you.
06-18-2008, 10:18 AM
Boylston

stick with SM:Cath until L40, when you can wear mail. It'll help a touch with survivability.

Quest from L40-58 by following a guide. You can probably skip most collection quests without too much pain (I did). You may want to have someone run you through some key instances (like BRD) which have a TON of high-XP quests that you can complete.

58+ is outlands, and you'll continue to quest from there on out.

I'd ignore the disrespectful comments about paying people to run you through content. If you have the cash, go for it. I powerleveled myself through SM:Cath, but I'd certainly have paid someone gold to do that since it's so efficient. I would stop at L40, though. ZF and other instances aren't worth the trouble, in my opinion.
06-18-2008, 10:22 AM
merujo

anyways, the fastest way to level, is the one that u enjoy the most.
i barely do quests because i dont like that much, on top of that, its picking the quest x5. but some quests i like to do, and other i know they are worth, so just do a mix, whenever ur tired of questing, go to an instance, vice-versa.
06-18-2008, 11:17 AM
Greythan

The PL boredom factor is something else to consider.

I'm currently PL'ing my four man team through SM. I've been there since level 20 and my little gang is now 32/33 (sig not updated). Once I hit 30, my enthusiasm has been challenged. ;) I've found myself more recently hoarding honor in anticipation of season 4 on my main. I'm sure I'll get back into it, but the monotony is mind-numbing. There sure doesn't seem to be a more efficient way to level a four box team, however. My exp rate/hour seems to outweigh questing.

Looking forward to 40 for the mix of quest-boosting and instance-boosting for the change of pace. I've heard some mixed opinions on boosting more in ZF at 40, but I have to think now that I'll be sick of it. Hence, the mixed approach.
06-18-2008, 01:31 PM
Mendicant

I'm definitely going to be questing pretty soon... I mean after 50 its not so easy for any 70 to aoe easily. Possibly a fury warr with my shamans healing, but, well we'll see.

Has anyone actually been boosted through ZF like 40-45 or 40-50? How was leveling speed?

I tried to on one of my chars before but I could not find a competent runner.
06-18-2008, 02:09 PM
Drizzit

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Originally Posted by 'Mendicant',index.php?page=Thread&postID=76053#pos t76053

Has anyone actually been boosted through ZF like 40-45 or 40-50? How was leveling speed?

Doing that now. There are 4 easy quests there that are not chained which should get you a lvl by itself. It takes me about 40 mins to do a quick clear (i skip the stairs because i have on aoe being a rogue). I get about 6 bars per run at lvl 40. I rested the guys and was able to get 2 lvls in about 2.25 runs (was 40.5 when started and ended in 42).

My plan is to lvl there to 43 maybe 44 then turn in the quests. Do some grinding until lvl 45 then go to scholo. Team 2 (ZF Team) is resting when Team 1 is doing sm runs until 40.
06-18-2008, 03:18 PM
Lazzadorabcd

The lazzador's are almost lvl 40.

I found that instancing is the fastest way to go. Generally I will try to do the quests in each instance also - assuming they arent requiring a long list of other quests first.

Questing is brutal and very time consuming. Also the more you instance the easier it gets because you should have all the best gear available to you if you are doing every instance 3-5 times.
06-18-2008, 06:07 PM
daviddoran

I do Questing, Boosting, and Instancing.

I'm doing a mixed bag here. I'm on a PvP server so sometimes you just can't quest. 70s that used to leave my solo characters alone always seem to wanna obliterate my lvl 20s....

What i'm doing is running my characters through at the earliest level they are able to zone in, and basically farm boss loot, and collecting greens to DE/upgrade/Sell on AH (Master Looter FTW!) And once the group is level appropriate, I run the instance normally. It seems to work pretty well, because I end up being pretty well geared. I did many a VC run, got just about every item I could think of on every character (easier on my 5 man mixed class team than my 3x locks lol) and when I was 22 I ran it the normal way and had way more fun than when running with my 70. The added intensity of being vulnerable added to my excitement. I also boosted through SFK, though not as often, as I'm Alliance and SFK is a long way for lvl 10s to run lol, and ran at lvl 24-25 but due to all my gear being red, I couldn't take down the final boss, and didn't want to bother hearthing one by one to repair and re summoning.

I am now farming SM Library for with my 3 locks and another pally (who will be used to boost the chars on the account with my current 70 boosting pally) and gathering rested xp for my mixed 5 man team. Both teams are 24-26 now, so I may experiment with swapping one out. My locks do plenty of damage, but can't rez unless i remember to SS a pally, and can't off heal. (I made a "oh crap" macro that has all chars that can heal cast a heal on my tank, helps a lot for many "oh crap" moments) I have a few more runs to go before they all have the gear from Doan, then it's off to Cath (and I guess GY, but I skipped it as the gear isn't as great, but there's always the rares, and paladins PWN undead) Then I will boost the other team and farm gear, my pally should be fully decked out in Scarlet Chain stuff by the time he runs it as the tank. It's way more fun to play at a slight advantage and own, than play slightly too low/undergeared and wipe a lot (hence my inability to take down Arugal in SFK with red gear)

I will probably also quest a bit as well, but when avoiding collection quests, and playing 5 characters, you tend to blow through available quests before you are able to pick up the next part of a chain, or level out of a zone. The strength of 5 boxing comes in being able to do dungeons by yourself, which easily makes up for collection quests, and gets you some nice gear to boot!