Come back Vyndreemy! We miss you!
I promise to personally browbeat anyone who gives you a hard time in the future... even myself if needed.
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Come back Vyndreemy! We miss you!
I promise to personally browbeat anyone who gives you a hard time in the future... even myself if needed.
She left?
Signed. :love:
Signed as well :wacko:
She's for sale? How much are we talking here? *Gets out wallet*
(Sorry Suv, just playin :D )
signed :love:
/signed
/signed
/signed
/signed
/signed
.. what? I pay my monthly fee on 5 accounts!! don't i get 5 votes?
/signed
A wise person once said, "...real life takes priority..." ^_^
While I never quite got to know her myself, she's obviously an important part of this community. Thusly...
/signed.
What, she left? Does anyone know why she left or is she just taking a break?
/signed
/signed
/lick?
Vyn, I have Deadmedic's phone number if you want it for the next time he tries to be retarded with NB ^^
You could have funnnn
:P
I don't think she's for sale.
But in all seriousness, I hope all is well and she continues to participate here. I also think that whatever asshat accused here of something illegal apologizes. That's no better than some ignorant jerk getting on the case of any and every MBer for only doing something they don't understand. And in saying that, I fully realize I may well be calling another valued member an asshat. You're anonymous, whoever you are. Just deal with it.
I sent her a PM in hopes of lifting her spirits. I miss reading her well written and thoughtful posts! /signed!!
Maybe instead of asking for her to come back and post, you could ask for a little better moderation, so that when people get personally attacked something is done about it. Just a thought.
And speaking of attacks, this thread probably has something to do with why she left. Read it and put yourself in her shoes and think what you would do.
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index....d&postID=53001
You have a right to dislike the arenas as much as you want, and voice your opinion about the arenas, but it is wrong to attack people over it.
Just like people have a right to dislike multi-boxing, and they could even come on this forum and post about the reasons why they dislike multiboxing, and there *might* even be some good intellectual discussion about it (maybe. until the flames started). But the instant they start attacking the *person* multiboxing that's where there is a problem.
Good thread for a first post.
/signed 8o
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Originally Posted by 'Stabface',index.php?page=Thread&postID=57208#post 57208
Agreed. Please come back Vyndree!
/signed
Wait wait. Is it just me or am I missing something?
I didn't attack anyone over it :P And yea Dia, you missed a bunch of posts that someone ninja deleted that were nothing but explaining what happened. As I said in my deleted post, I was not among those who PM'd her nor did I mention her directly until she posted and then in my replies I stated my dislikes & reasons for it :p Don't delete this shit because it's fact regardless of what you do.
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edit:
i 'ninja' deleted your continued attack on one of our beloved members. Vyndree, is a brilliant person and has helped this community immensely... with the forums and directly with blizzard
your views on the matter would be similar to views held by multi-box haters on the wow forums, such an argument from a multi-boxer is just idiocy. to continue the argument, knowing a core member took it to heart when one of her beloved community attacked her, is just unwarranted and such posts will be similarly trimmed.
if you don't like my editing your post, tough beans. i stand with her. subject closed.
Rob
IWVB
Counter-edit: Hiding responses won't change anything, and as I said in THIS post, I did not attack her, I know she's done great things for and with us,(I never said she didn't nor did I want to repeat the same thing 20 other people have said in a row, redundancy is unnecessary) I simply thought her arena stuff is silly. I have not directly said ANYTHING about her specifically that was derogatory, just stated acts related to teamselling were distasteful to me and only me in general; I feel similarly that Ellay does the same but that's their choices and that's perfectly fine :p Doesn't mean I have to baa like the rest of the sheep and think it's cool. I do not like you saying it's the same thing as the antiboxers though because it's not an ignorant, unchanging uninformed view accompanied by insults; it's an opinion that was stated in the thread without actually specifying her until these replies.
And I'd like to keep the logic statement as well: Vyn said as long as Blizz said it's okay, it'll be used 100%; Blizzard isn't outright saying "bad Teamsellers, bad!" but they ARE adding shit in 2.4.2 to prevent it. Fact, not opinion. She did say that, and Blizz is doing that. Period. :P
This is a free speech forum isn't it? You can disagree with everything I say man but leave it up for the world to see, don't hide parts YOU specifically do not like. Explain how I'm wrong in a reply, quit censoring things you don't like.
maybe shes just takin a break since it was a hotlivered discussion...
Disclaimer: I was aware well ahead of time that Eteocles was in fact NOT the one who accused her of cheating. Just letting everyone know. After all, Boomkin don't insult each other.
/signed
besides we need cute women that can talk geek here. :D
you know personally I dont see why people feel the need to deputize themselves as the WoW police. I mean that from the people that accuse us of botting, to this whole thing with selling arena points/teams, to anything else really. WoW has police...they are called GM's. Who are you to say how I should or shouldn't play the game? Thats a GM's call. If you have a beef take it up with a GM not with another player.
Have to say I dont like the posts being edited or censored all the time its starting to shit me.
Some people obviously PM'd Vyndree (I myself was not one of them) Vyndree made a thread about it. A number of ppl voiced their opinion on various Arena related matters. In another thread Suvega let us know that Vyndree left because of the fuckwits on the forums.
It was Vyndrees choice to make a public post. It was various peoples choice to make public opinions. Stop fucking editing them.
I'm not gonna /sign this thread mainly because I thought Vyndree had more balls personally.
Mack, noone's policing. Some people hate murlocs, some people hate naga, some people hate alliance, I hate arenas. I voiced my opinion in a public post, she voiced her distaste for whoever the underhanded bastards were that hounded her via PM, we all spoke out loud. I'm not saying at all how they "should" play, I'm saying "meh, I don't like it, but oh well, that's life" :p
I must agree with Slats on this one, some of the censoring on the forums have left me disappointed with the moderators...there was an issue being debated that wasn't allowed to finish as it was cut short.
Personally, I have no problem with Vyndree and think she's done many great things to help the multiboxing community as a whole and equally, the specific issue regarding the arenas is not something I'm bothered with as I don't PVP. I can see an argument for and against it but it's not something that affects me in any way.
I just feel this whole problem could have been handled better. Editting posts or locking threads just leaves a bitter taste.
Raylion on a totally off-topic note, your Avatar is so cute. :D
No?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Eteocles',index.php?page=Thread&postID=57251#post 57251
"Play your own team and fuckin earn it, don't take the easy way out and skip to yer gear, then you got no goal"
"enjoy your welfare, you "earned" it"
Those apply to ANYONE who does it stab; be it Vyn or any other player :p Just like people quote "third party software" you're leaving out the rest of the sentence where I think I elaborated about it being teamselling in general...if not, oh well :p Still my opinion regardless, not what anyone SHOULD do but what I think. Why bother if you're just gonna skip ahead to the end result and not enjoy the ride?
Let it die; it's over. Ironically you'll all think what you like about what went down as will I just like people think about multiboxing in differing ways. Bring Vyndree back, give her the strength to ignore idiots who PM her making accusations(You're a boxer and a smart person, you should have thick skin and know better than to take flame bait like that) end of thread.
I really don't want to be associated with this pointless drama, but if you ask me this isn't the forum for debates (or accusations) about arena politics. Take that stuff to the pvp forums or your server forums, it doesn't belong here.
game over.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Stabface',index.php?page=Thread&postID=57366#post 57366
i could debate the issue to no end... you only care that the subject is continued.
in the end, the discussion does nothing to help the community and only succeeds in bashing a member with your views, which i do not share (how could any multi-boxer have a problem with playing on the edge of the rules?)
and no. freedom of speech applies only to governments and entities that state as such. these forums have rules and guidelines... and moderators... who have discretion to edit/trim what they see fit to keep the forums in order. topics like the one you continue to hijack threads with, brings nothing to the community and could be trimmed. i do not take trimming lightly... and normally confer with others before taking such actions.
even discussing this serves your purpose.. as it keeps the topic alive. if you have no intention of continuing to bash a valued member that is not here to defend herself, then you would not have brought it up. but since you did, http://solidice.com/bitmaps/icon_finger.gif
IWVB
As Keyclone has said, we do not undertake any action lightly.
And, whilst I don't intend for this to be contrversial, I do believe that we don't have the right to moderate peoples criticism. As such I am re-opening this thread.
To be clear, I am not re-opening this thread so some of you can crusade on some witch-hunt especially seen as Vynd' isn't here to defend herself. I'm also not opening it so that others can "agressively" defend.
Personally, I am sick of all the passive-aggresive bullshit I've been seeing lately.
I hope some of you take this message to heart.
Regards.
/signed
I don't know why you guys want someone back that can't even handle being flamed on an internet forum.
Oh noes, mean text on a screen!!! I'm outta here!
Of course, the countless threads on the WoW forums where Vynd' has single handedly decimated most anti-multiboxer comments and arguments, no doubt at her own personal cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'd0z3rr',index.php?page=Thread&postID=57587#post57 587
Either way, you guys all need to stop behaving like whiney children and remember what this community is for.