6.0 dps?

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10-17-2014, 10:38 PM
Lyonheart

6.0 dps?

My team is only in timeless isle gear + a few other random item lvl 500ish gear from quests and such.. I am still trying to fine tune my rotations/macros etc.. but my arcane mage is doing almost double what my ele shams are.. 4500dps for the mage and 2500 for the shams ( prot paly doing 2k as well lol )

Its kind of hard to know what dps they should be doing now..Can some of you post your item lvl and what kind of DPS your team is doing?
Just to get an idea what some of you are accomplishing after the item squish.
10-17-2014, 11:57 PM
MiRai

According to today's patch notes they're still balancing classes:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/163...-17-10-17-2014
10-18-2014, 01:19 AM
Ughmahedhurtz

On what? Raid bosses? 85 Target dummies? Live content? Overall for a particular dungeon?

On the boss dummies in Org, my BM hunters are doing about 650-850 DPS in mostly Timeless Isle gear and weapon.
On the 85 dummies, they're doing 30-35k DPS.
On the 90 dummies in Vale of Eternal Blossoms, they're pulling 2400-3100.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MiRai

According to today's patch notes they're still balancing classes:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/163...-17-10-17-2014

Wow. That's....quite interesting. Still blunt hammer time, apparently.
10-18-2014, 02:35 AM
ebony

the boss dummies got buffed to level 103 (same thing happen last xpac.) so if your missing all the time and doing bad dps that is why,

in other news its probs been the hardest thing to work if your doing the same/more dps then before as every number got changed.
10-18-2014, 09:01 AM
Lyonheart

I was wondering what was going on with the dummies.. but yea.. on 85 dummies im doing 45,000 with mage and 30,000ish with shaman. My OP was on 90 TDs in VotEB.
10-18-2014, 06:35 PM
Shania

Hunter now as damn MM is doing around 150k consistent, though macro needs more tweaking I think. But ilvl on my hunter is 581.
Rogue, I am unsure about will get back to you, its ilvl is 583 though, and I think combat is crap now, not sure, will find a decent macro and see, and try it as assass as well, as I have a spare dagger.
Kitty druid, well, seemed very off and I am sure it is macro related, its ilvl is only 568 though started off at around 150k, but seems too linger around 120k or so.

Shammy ele and Warlock, cannot say yet, because those account have no game time damn it until next week, as I been in wod beta too much too care about MOP anymore :P

Combat Rogue with a quick macro I found and used, was doing around 150-158k dps or so, 583 ilvl.

Am about to go find a heroic or mythic garrosh kill on my hunter and see how other people's dps is.
10-18-2014, 08:09 PM
Shania

Now those numbers look amazing, but it is on an old lvl 85 test dummy.

Just came out of a heroic garrosh, 30 man kill.

Top DPS was a warlock: 19.3k
2) Mage fire, 13.8k
3) Spriest 12.9k
4) Hunter MM 13.6k
5,6,7) Warriors, 12.8k
8) warlock 12k
9) pally, 10k
then few hunters again at 10 and 9k

That was a 570+ grp though and alot were 580+
Weird, and really still hard to say what is where, and more balancements going on too I think.

Really loathe MM as a Hunter. At this stage anyway :(
10-18-2014, 08:21 PM
zenga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shania

Hunter now as damn MM is doing around 150k consistent, though macro needs more tweaking I think. But ilvl on my hunter is 581.
Rogue, I am unsure about will get back to you, its ilvl is 583 though, and I think combat is crap now, not sure, will find a decent macro and see, and try it as assass as well, as I have a spare dagger.
Kitty druid, well, seemed very off and I am sure it is macro related, its ilvl is only 568 though started off at around 150k, but seems too linger around 120k or so.

Shammy ele and Warlock, cannot say yet, because those account have no game time damn it until next week, as I been in wod beta too much too care about MOP anymore :P

Combat Rogue with a quick macro I found and used, was doing around 150-158k dps or so, 583 ilvl.

Am about to go find a heroic or mythic garrosh kill on my hunter and see how other people's dps is.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but top dps in raids single target is like 20-25k single target, talking about some of the better guilds in the world who are best in slot geared. Top simmed dps in wod single target in best in slot raid gear at lvl 100 is like 60-70k single target.

Thing is that since the patch, you deal more damage to lower targets. Go vs a dummy and cast the same spell vs a lvl 90 dummy or a lvl 60 dummy.
10-18-2014, 11:51 PM
Kayley

Argh, I fell in love with my paladin/shammy team again :| Level 90 Target Dummys, over 4 minutes.
Enhancement shamans are doing on average 9k (unbuffed, no heroism etc) with no Ascendance as I can't get Stormstrike to go off properly.
546ilvl as I didn't raid on them, so just the arena gear.

Arms warriors are actually doing more, 536ilvl (pve gear only) and pulling on average 11k. I think they do more because I can macro them better, shamans are causing me a little grief. Heroic Garrosh they ended up with 32k dps, but that was with all the aoe etc (better geared warriors were doing 60k lol).

My paladin is a little beaut, she gets 7k on average - she's 537 ilvl, single target :D
(that's with adding in all the self healing abilities too, tanks ftw)

It's probably down to whatever macros we are using now, try doing it manually and compare the dps :)
10-19-2014, 01:56 AM
Shania

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenga

Sorry to burst your bubble, but top dps in raids single target is like 20-25k single target, talking about some of the better guilds in the world who are best in slot geared. Top simmed dps in wod single target in best in slot raid gear at lvl 100 is like 60-70k single target.

Thing is that since the patch, you deal more damage to lower targets. Go vs a dummy and cast the same spell vs a lvl 90 dummy or a lvl 60 dummy.

Yes thats why the post underneath it, has

Quote:

Now those numbers look amazing, but it is on an old lvl 85 test dummy.

Just came out of a heroic garrosh, 30 man kill.

Top DPS was a warlock: 19.3k
2) Mage fire, 13.8k
3) Spriest 12.9k
4) Hunter MM 13.6k
5,6,7) Warriors, 12.8k
8) warlock 12k
9) pally, 10k
then few hunters again at 10 and 9k

That was a 570+ grp though and alot were 580+
Weird, and really still hard to say what is where, and more balancements going on too I think.

Really loathe MM as a Hunter. At this stage anyway :(

So we still have to see what happens with anymore class tweakings for dps.
Warriors are looking nice at lvl 100, but between now and then its hard too say until we get there.
10-19-2014, 01:57 AM
Shania

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayley

Argh, I fell in love with my paladin/shammy team again :| Level 90 Target Dummys, over 4 minutes.
Enhancement shamans are doing on average 9k (unbuffed, no heroism etc) with no Ascendance as I can't get Stormstrike to go off properly.
546ilvl as I didn't raid on them, so just the arena gear.

Arms warriors are actually doing more, 536ilvl (pve gear only) and pulling on average 11k. I think they do more because I can macro them better, shamans are causing me a little grief. Heroic Garrosh they ended up with 32k dps, but that was with all the aoe etc (better geared warriors were doing 60k lol).

My paladin is a little beaut, she gets 7k on average - she's 537 ilvl, single target :D
(that's with adding in all the self healing abilities too, tanks ftw)

It's probably down to whatever macros we are using now, try doing it manually and compare the dps :)

This is true, because I used a random macro I found and my dps on my 581 hunter was like 10k compared to someone who was less geared then me and wasnt using a macro, same spec and did 13.5k

I think in coming weeks, we will see more improved macros anyway.
10-23-2014, 11:20 PM
Xixillia

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenga

Sorry to burst your bubble, but top dps in raids single target is like 20-25k single target.

That's roughly what my main does as dps in mythic tank gear, so I would expect to see between 30-50k+ atm from people in dps gear.
11-02-2014, 09:46 PM
nobodyz

is the stat squish completed? seems quite tough running instance for my new team of pally, 3 mage + priest.. on the classic dungeons when fighting bosses (appropriate level), i had to constantly heal my pally.. compared to pre-6.0, never had pally hp drop less than half.. :(
11-03-2014, 12:33 AM
MiRai

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobodyz

is the stat squish completed? seems quite tough running instance for my new team of pally, 3 mage + priest.. on the classic dungeons when fighting bosses (appropriate level), i had to constantly heal my pally.. compared to pre-6.0, never had pally hp drop less than half.. :(

IT'S TIME TO MAN UP!

(or, depending on who you are, woman up)
11-03-2014, 12:52 AM
Ughmahedhurtz

Something else I notice is that things get really wierd comparing spell damage vs physical damage.

Example:

85 dummies in Orgrimmar:
Balance druids = 32-38k
BM Hunters = 45-52k

90 dummies in SotTM:
Balance druids = 15-18k
BM Hunters = 1800-2500

I have no idea what's up with that.
11-03-2014, 10:24 AM
Lyonheart

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz

Something else I notice is that things get really wierd comparing spell damage vs physical damage.

Example:

85 dummies in Orgrimmar:
Balance druids = 32-38k
BM Hunters = 45-52k

90 dummies in SotTM:
Balance druids = 15-18k
BM Hunters = 1800-2500

I have no idea what's up with that.

well maybe balance is op atm.. according to Noxxic ( simulated dps charts ) Balance is at the top right now.

I only have one 90 druid.. and i have no caster gear for him atm. My arcane mages are doing 3.8-4k and my ele shams and bm hunter are doing 2.5-3k on 90 target dummies. I keep seeing buffs to ele shams in patch notes, but have not seen more dps on mine. My guys are only 495ish geared, timeless isle stuff.

I'm sure we wont be able to get a fix on realistic dps until 100. That is when the true fine tuning will happen.