dxtory help please

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02-01-2014, 10:30 PM
Xixillia

dxtory help please

Does anyone use dxtory to record?

I've used it for a while, but since I re-built my computer I can't seem to get it to work again.

I'm using the same codec I was before (x264) with the same settings, but now it won't record anything with more than one client open.

I press the record button and it shows the recording fps:file at 60fps:0 file. Then when I tell it to stop recording it shows the 60fps:fin and then does nothing else.

any thoughts?

I don't use fraps anymore because 1080p recording is like 2gb for 30 seconds :/
02-02-2014, 05:21 AM
zenga

Last time I used dxtory it wouldn't work with wow 64 bit. I found it to outshine fraps before, but the lack of 64-bit support for wow made me switch to OBS.

So are you playing wow in 32 or 64 bit mode/
02-02-2014, 06:22 AM
Xixillia

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Originally Posted by zenga

Last time I used dxtory it wouldn't work with wow 64 bit. I found it to outshine fraps before, but the lack of 64-bit support for wow made me switch to OBS.

So are you playing wow in 32 or 64 bit mode/

i think I'm running 64bit wow client. I'll see if using the 32 bit makes a difference. How does obs compare with fraps/dxtory? 1080p. With the ability to have smaller than fraps file sizes by chance?
02-02-2014, 08:54 AM
zenga

It's a fraction of the file size fraps uses. I liked dxtory cause you had the ability to get 1 big file rather than all 4g files, and you had influence in the quality outcome. OBS has pretty much everything tied up in smaller sizes, still 1080p. This is a quick test i ran a couple of days ago in an instance on my alt lock using OBS to record and sony vegas platinum 11 to render. Fairly happy with the outcome, allthough I'm sure I can up the quality quite a bit when tweaking settings a bit more.
02-02-2014, 12:00 PM
Xixillia

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Originally Posted by zenga

It's a fraction of the file size fraps uses. I liked dxtory cause you had the ability to get 1 big file rather than all 4g files, and you had influence in the quality outcome. OBS has pretty much everything tied up in smaller sizes, still 1080p. This is a quick test i ran a couple of days ago in an instance on my alt lock using OBS to record and sony vegas platinum 11 to render. Fairly happy with the outcome, allthough I'm sure I can up the quality quite a bit when tweaking settings a bit more.

You've sold me on it, I have vegas 12 and getting it to work with dxtory was like pulling teeth. I'll be playing with obs on my weekend. So very excited!
02-02-2014, 10:54 PM
ebony

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Originally Posted by zenga

I liked dxtory cause you had the ability to get 1 big file rather than all 4g file.

there is a option in fraps to stop having the very small files and have one big file :)
02-03-2014, 05:46 AM
Xixillia

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Originally Posted by ebony

there is a option in fraps to stop having the very small files and have one big file :)

That at must be a fairly recent addition, pretty nice of them to as that! I played with obs for a bit today. A 24 minute video ended up being only 600 MB in full HD. I may actually get to record quite a few videos and with the same programming of the addition streaming so I'm pretty excited
02-03-2014, 08:14 PM
Ughmahedhurtz

"OBS?" Y'all talking about this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/files/
02-03-2014, 09:04 PM
zenga

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Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz

"OBS?" Y'all talking about this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/obsproject/files/

Yeh. http://obsproject.com/ is the main project site. Basically open source streaming software that put xsplit to shame, but it got an option to record as well.
02-05-2014, 04:47 PM
MiRai

I've never had a chance to use Dxtory beyond the extremely quick trial I had with it well over a year ago. I forget where it fell short at the time, but I believe it was in the desktop capture department or something like that that. I wouldn't mind trying to give it another go, but I've always used FRAPS (or have fallen back to it) because it's always come through for me when other recording software couldn't.

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Originally Posted by zenga

I liked dxtory cause you had the ability to get 1 big file rather than all 4g files

I've seen this used as an argument (or con) against FRAPS many times, and I've never fully understood it. I would be devastated if FRAPS ever lost the ability to split the video files, because when you record for any long period of time you're stuck with one gigantic file, and that is a pain in the D to work with.

If you're someone who's looking for specific parts of footage and trying to piece together a montage of sorts, loading hour long segments of video into an editor can be an absolute nightmare. When FRAPS splits up the videos files, I can review them all and delete everything I don't need, and it usually ends up saving me hundreds of GB worth of space.

I also prefer programs that are able to record to AVI because working with MP4 files usually isn't a lot of fun. I do need to do more research on this, and I would if I was forced to edit MP4 files only, but H.264 videos have something called keyframe distance (it may be called something slightly different in non-Adobe products). All video files may actually have this, and I'm not entirely clear on what the setting is or does because my experience isn't the same as what I've read in the past, but programs that record and encode directly to MP4 I'll assume use the bare minimum setting for keyframe distance, which, from what I understand, is why I don't like editing those files in Premiere or After Effects. They're just very difficult to work with in the sense that when trying to review what I'm working on it's difficult scrubbing through the timeline and actually seeing what I need to see; whereas, AVI files scrub very, very smooth and just make the overall editing process so much less frustrating.

I think what most people don't understand is, no matter what you upload to YouTube, it's going to be re-encoded again to suit YouTube's standards. You can upload a video that you spent 17 hours encoding with 7-pass VBR, a bitrate of 100Mbps, and takes up 100GB on your hard drive, but YouTube is going to crush that down to about 4Mbps for 1080p and that can easily reduce the quality of the video depending on the scene. Some scenes still look okay after YouTube gets a hold of them, but others do not, and there's no way around this for the time being unless you're either a super-fancy partner of YouTube/Google (not a regular partner) or operate a pay channel.

However, I'm always on the look out for new video recording software that rivals what FRAPS can do for me, and like I said, I wouldn't mind trying out Dxtory again. BandiCam is a close second, but it recently decided that it didn't like my dxNothing window with cross-monitor viewers on it using both DX11 and DX9, but again, FRAPS was able to record the same scene flawlessly without a hitch.

I'm also on the lookout for other sites that host 1080p (or better quality) videos at a higher bitrate than YouTube does and I'd be willing to pay a good chunk of money in subscription fees if I could find such a site. I found that Vimeo's pay-only 1080p is better quality than YouTube's, but they specifically don't allow video game footage on their site. Not to say that you can't find any video game footage on their site at all, but if I was to start using that as my HQ for uploading videos, I think I'd get shut down sooner than later. So, if anyone has any suggestions on sites that have high quality streaming, no matter the cost, I'm all ears.

Hopefully the game will change here near the end of 2014 or early 2015 when the VP9 codec becomes more widely available.
02-05-2014, 05:23 PM
Invisahealz

I use obs as well. Setup is cake just follow the options on twitch to setup and just change the option from stream to local record and it works the same as fraps. I like it better because gives the option to record entire screen or just a certain window. Fraps only records the window you currently have open.
02-05-2014, 05:54 PM
MiRai

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Originally Posted by Invisahealz

Fraps only records the window you currently have open.

FRAPS can record the desktop, I've been doing it for years. You need to start recording before you launch your games (which is one of its minor flaws in this day and age).
02-05-2014, 06:14 PM
Invisahealz

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Originally Posted by MiRai

FRAPS can record the desktop, I've been doing it for years. You need to start recording before you launch your games (which is one of its minor flaws in this day and age).

yes you are correct but it doesnt give you the option to select what you want to record. like you said you need to start recording before you launch you game. that is inconvenient. I also like the ability to record only certain of my wow windows or the entire desktop in an area, fraps doesnt give the region or resize option.
02-05-2014, 06:53 PM
MiRai

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Originally Posted by Invisahealz

yes you are correct but it doesnt give you the option to select what you want to record. like you said you need to start recording before you launch you game. that is inconvenient.

You're right, it can be very inconvenient and there are a handful of features from other programs that are left to be desired if you use FRAPS, but until another program can come along and handle what I need it to handle, I'm stuck with FRAPS.

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Originally Posted by Invisahealz

I also like the ability to record only certain of my wow windows or the entire desktop in an area, fraps doesnt give the region or resize option.

I wouldn't really consider this much of a flaw since you can just take care of this post-recording if you've recorded the entire desktop to begin with. I'd personally rather have a program that can record the entire desktop flawlessly, and just take care of any of that after the recording process anyway since I may want to jump from showing every window to just showing my main, and vice versa.