I just got my first 5x team to lvl 21 and now I am going to take one char out and jump on my 90 for boosting. My accounts are RAF'd and ready to go. So, I had heard about changes to SM but am now at a loss. I loved the giant pulls from the Cathedral. Is that gone?
Could someone who has run up a team in the modern era, using dungeons mostly, give me a quick listing of how I should proceed?
I will head to SFK in the mean time.
Thanks,
-Grail
if your accs are RAF'd just do every instance once and do the instance quests. Worked for me from lvl 15 - lvl 80
btw. maybe this will help you:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Instances_by_level
Thanks Asterix :)
That would be great. Was that with a 90 booster? Or just five team members all the same level?
-Grail
lvl 90 paladin boosting a group of 4 RAF Accounts.
Started with lvl 10 without quests in deadmines until they dinged to lvl 15 so I could get the quest.
Used the RAF Flying mount to get one of the toons to the next dungeon and used the summoning stone to get the rest of the group there
and just done each instance once. Usually they do one level because of the mob exp and 1-2 level because of the quest exp.
burning crusade is each instance once except of the tempest keep dungeons to get you to 68.
Although you can move on to WOTLK content: do the three tempest keep dungens first unless you want to
do azjol again and again waiting for the levelup to move on to the next dungeons.
wotlk is each dungeon once, usually you ding to 80 between halls of stone and halls of lightning.
you don't need the three ICC heroic dungeons.
and: don't miss the arena quests with 65, 75 and 84 ! They are close to the amount of a whole level of exp points !
Excellent advice. Going to try that next chance I get. I have about 14 days of RAF left, so getting one more team done would be pretty sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
I usually get a RAF team of 4 chars from 0-60 on a saturday (most of the time is flying from dungeon to dungeon)
60-80 on a sunday.
both days usually playing from 2pm to midnight
Yeah I mainly play on weekends, too. Between work, trying to stay in a reasonable physical shape and various other Real Life™ commitments, my weekday playing time is severely limited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
2 things that might help you:
- don't loot. Just don't do it except you need a quest item out of the mob.
before you loot with the toons, loot with your main char first and set loot
modus to free for all so your mainchar can grab everything and the bags
of your toons are always empty. picking up things, sorting out stuff, trading
with the toons, selling stuff via auctionhouse just takes way too much time.
you can start with looting in wotlk content where the amount of stuff is reduced
and the worth of the items is increased - especially cloth. classic and bc stuff
is nearly worthless, disenchanting materials are nearly worthless and they fill
your bags, especially in classic where you loot tons of grey trash which is worth 1 copper :D
- care for your dungeon timer. doing too much instances within a short period (i.e. stockades
bombing, running out, resetting and running back in) will get you locked out of dungeons.
afaik you can have 4 active timer and each timer will be disabled after 60 mins starting when
the last char of the group has left the dungeon. So plan your dungeons, especially the short
ones and try to combine them with larger dungeons or lunch/dinner breaks.
Awesome Asterix,
I think i will drop the looting. I spent most of the day trying to remember how to play my Shaman and setting my Logitech mouse up correctly. I otherwise made five levels from 22-27 pretty quickly. I have to play off and on, but am looking forward to a good day tomorrow.
Great advice overall, especially for when I get to BC & WoTLK. I will keep this post handy all the way up.
-Grail
Transmog gear means that low level stuff is no longer worthless. You're probably leaving 3-10 pieces of 1k+ loot on the ground in uldamon, for example. For me hoping to find a decent piece of green is the primary thing to look forward to when grinding out dungeons. To each his own though!
hmm... 5 runs through deadmines with boosting means you have to sell tons of grey worthless trash you've looted. Sometimes you can't pull the mob packs together and get them down so you have to run forward and back too loot everything. In the end you have to sell all the grey trash to the vendor to continue and trade all the useful stuff to your toons because your bags are full. Then head to the auctionhouse, try to get rid of all this stuff without knowing about the transmog worth of every item which means lots of trys to get it sold while having the auction house fees. In addition he got time ticking against him because his RAF time is running out (14 days left) and he has to get the group to 80.
in the end you have :
the chance of getting a rare item you can sell for 1k+ (but only if you know that this item is that much worth and don't trash+cash it for 5 gold at AH/vendor)
vs
getting to highlevel several days earlier which means you can start doing dailys as a group and get $$$ or start running old raids solo to grab transmog gear
or farm cloth out of Naxxramas which is worth 50-100 Gold / Stack on my realm or farm pets out of raids which sell 500g - 25k / each on my realm.
I'd take the second option :)
Let me just recommend this item for boosting in instances btw:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=86565/battle-horn
It all depends on your class how much of a boost it is, but I found it quite useful on my warrior. It's a 20% drop off a rare, so probably not worth farming, but still.
If you have a tailor, then collecting netherweave while boosting through BC instances is an easy way to get your team all of the 16-slot bags they need. Netherweave cloth drops in great quantities in those dungeons.
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Originally Posted by Asterix
I have the Traveler's Tundra Mammoth {now the Expedition Yak} in my mount macro for my main
Every time I clear an instance, I pop out, summon my Mammoth/Yak, repair and sell. It takes no time at all. Some instances even have "outside" areas inside, which means I can even summon the mount inside.Code:/use [button:2] Grand Expedition Yak; [nomounted, flyable] Ashes of Al'ar; [nomounted] Swift Razzashi Raptor
/dismount [mod]
/script VehicleExit()
/jamba-follow strobeonme slave
/focus party2
/clearfocus [mod]
I also have my own level 25 guild which gives me access to the guild bank for dumping off excess stuff.
Jamba makes trading and looting stuff easy as pie, too.
Advanced Loot means you can set your team to ignore certain stuff or have loot assigned to a specific toon {like I have cloth set only to my tailor slave, so when cloth shows up my main leaves it and the slave can AOE loot all the cloth, including bonus cloth my main can't even see}.
The merchant section allows Jamba to autosell greys and whatever other loot you want.
And the trade window has a dropdown that allows you to quickly load the entire trade window with whatever type of loot you want to trade to slaves. This means I can trade stuff I want to keep to one toon and disenchant the rest.
You can also set a loot threshold so that you don't loot anything that's below blue or green quality.
If you're all about skipping loot for speed sake, that's fine, but looting really is rather quick and easy now that AOE looting is in game and Jamba has all these options to deal with loot management. I've made a very significant amount just selling low level tradeskill stuff, like enchanting mats, cloth, leather, gems etc that I pick up while boosting.
I agree, and I generally don't skip loot, except for the starting zones (especially as I haven't necessarily outfitted all toons with bags at that point).Quote:
Originally Posted by Khatovar
With the right timing, even low-level cloth sells for 5-10gold / stack, which often means my teams are "self-sufficient" for things like riding skill etc, which I quite like.
edit: of course, that all depends on your server economy, so the value of loot vs the time it takes to gather/sort/sell is something you'll have to find out for yourself.
from 1-80 my toons don't have bags and only dress in dungeon quest rewards because with RAF leveling is that fast that everything you equip is already outdated.
Everything that's worth under 1 Gold I don't pick up, therefore I usually don't loot anything until I get to UBRS/LBRS/BRD. Lots of my loot-style depends on my
server economy where you can't sell old stuff (cloth usually goes for 20-99 silver / STACK!, even nethercloth). That's why I usually start looting bosses in
UBRS/LBRS/BRD and the following instances and start looting trashmobs in WOTLK.
We got dozens of players that buy out all the old cloth, they tailor stuff from it and disenchant the items and sell the enchant materials.
The only thing you can sell is dreamdust, illusiondust and nether essences but the weapons that you need to destroy for it usually give
you several gold when selling to the vendor.
My main income is from farming old raids, collecting cloth and BOE blue/epic items and the pets several bosses drop.
I sell all this stuff in the auctionhouse and use this gold to grant my toons flying, equip ....
Once a week I offer a Black Temple ID where only Illidan is alive in the trade chat.
I look for a rogue (for the glaives) and a warrior/pala/shaman (for the shield).
Usually they pay me 500-1000 Gold (each) for the ID (and my work clearing the temple for them)
and the chance to get it.
Additionally I sell the Obsi3D Drake.
Easy to get items but it looks like on my realms are a lot of players that don't have friends / guilds
to help them out to get the items and they are usually thankful that they get ported to the instance
and just have wait and loot.
Thats why I don't care about the loot in classic instances while boosting a RAF group :D
I pretty much followed this, for boosting: http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...l=1#post370167
It was after the changes to Scarlet Monastery.
A trick for the loot.
Lead with you booster.
Set the loot to Master Looter.
Set the threshold to Green items.
Have your booster, 'Opt Out' of the loot.
If you see an item sparkle on the ground (on your Booster), then you have something that needs to be Master Looted (given to one of your toons).
It will only sparkle if its Green/Blue/Purple.
You'll miss out of the Cloth items, but only have to loot corpses that actually have an item on them.