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07-31-2007, 01:54 PM
Passer

Hey rly interested

Hey guys, after watching some youtube vids and after my first friendly encounter of a boxer that was nice and helpful on my server. He isnt a member of ur site however he did say it was called multi-boxing and to get into it to just look it up and i ended up here since this site looks to be the most filled with info. I just spent about 7k on my new machine getting ready for Xsis. however being a wow fan ill always play wow and with this i see this as a new way of wow entirly.

My new mahcine is
2x Evga 8800 GTX stock non oc waiting on a decent cooling block and more $$

evga 680i sli mb

fatility xfi sound card

pc 9136 ddr2 corasair domminartor ram 2gb

intel qx6700

just a taste acaorse theres more:P

i clock 15.5k on 3dmark06 if everything turned up ntune and stuff but it ran hot so i turned it all down it was only 14k range on 3dmark06 so im pretty sure i can easily run a few copys of wow. How to do i read its like running mulitple copies of Diablo 2 bakc in the old days just u dont need a d2 loader anymore since wow doesnt need a cd. however split the monitors up and also configurings the vid cards ive ben scrolling through the forums i havnt found much on the 8800gtx with the fps and the monitor driver config and ive always been having 1 issue with them with evga and ntune set up so was wondering if anyone else has this set up or near it and already has done something like this? Should i even be using NTune? I heard someone else was using something diferent when using mulitple set up for milti monitor on these vid cards...

Also keyboard config? Do u gets use things like Xkeys, or switches or something how do u manage to control 5 toons off 1 keyboard and mouse? i can see casting with something like Xkeys causeu can use multi layering with that right? however what about moving around do u use like a follow assist macro command kinda deal?
07-31-2007, 04:20 PM
Xzin

It is possible to run multiple WoWs with 8800GTXes but I don't and have never intended to - so my research on that is somewhat limited as to where exactly it caps out at.
07-31-2007, 05:43 PM
deadarcher

I don't understand why you didn't just buy parts for four separate machines? I just spent 1700$, and that was only for 3 very capable WoW machines.

If it's a new computer you will use as your main, I can understand...and if you have the money. I love computers too but would never think of spending that much on one machine!

(OK, that was a lie. If i had a good job I probably would :) )

ANYWAYS, the point I'm trying to make is...like Xzin said, I'm sure you can run them all on that PC but it may get kind of messy. Messy in the sense that Playing 5 WoW's on one machine is hectic as anyone could imagine.....

But hell, if you had some extra cash you could throw some down for a few extra cheaper(yet still powerful) machines.
07-31-2007, 06:29 PM
caldvn

Where's the picture?
07-31-2007, 09:19 PM
Xzin

Probably something like this.... only with 1 less card.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...W/IMG00294.jpg

Which is what I run to power the 6x 30" displays and Xzin.
07-31-2007, 10:27 PM
clesven

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Originally Posted by Xzin

Probably something like this.... only with 1 less card.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...W/IMG00294.jpg

Which is what I run to power the 6x 30" displays and Xzin.

Two pci-e cards and one AGP? :? MB looks like a striker.
07-31-2007, 10:36 PM
Xzin

3x PCI-E, 2 x16 and 1 x8. The 8 lanes slows it down a BIT but not by much.
07-31-2007, 10:53 PM
clesven

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Originally Posted by Xzin

3x PCI-E, 2 x16 and 1 x8. The 8 lanes slows it down a BIT but not by much.

Ohyea, just checked Newegg :D . So how does that work out? The two on each side SLIed and connected to one monitor or 2 and the one in the middle with its own, or do all 3 work together? I'm in highschool and getting a job in about 2 weeks and all my money is going into a $3k custom guitar and $7k computer setup. Should take 2-3 months of working, and if I get a certain job with a relative I can make $5k a month for a few days work/month. So yea.. if those 3 cards work well together then I might just get one or two of those instead of multiple PC's. I don't really want heat etc. from all those PC's. I rather just waterchill cool the cards and CPU.
08-01-2007, 01:19 AM
Xzin

That is only for 1 box though.... heh I don't know how well or how many boxes it would run. SLI is broken via driver support not being there if you have all 6 ports in use.

You don't need a 7k computer to run wow :) $4k is more than enough to 5 box VERY well with multiple machines.
08-01-2007, 01:45 AM
clesven

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Originally Posted by Xzin

That is only for 1 box though.... heh I don't know how well or how many boxes it would run. SLI is broken via driver support not being there if you have all 6 ports in use.

You don't need a 7k computer to run wow :) $4k is more than enough to 5 box VERY well with multiple machines.

Yea.. but the problem is that I'm dropping WoW the second WAR comes out and want to 5 box it, but I really just want to prepare the hardware now instead of upgrading, because i'll be in college when it comes out and don't have time to work. (I want to keep a 4.0) BTW, why is the middle SLIED with the one on the left? The two sides are x16 and the middles x8.

So I wanted one computer, so I can 5 box WoW on it, and maybe continue 5 boxing WAR on it, or atleast run a few copies of WAR, or even one on maximum settings with no lag... WAR just seems like my dream game, LOL. Something I would drink energy drinks for my first time to play it 24/7 and cancel my cellphone and lock my doors and pull out the telephone cord.
08-01-2007, 04:20 AM
mmcookies

Not every game is as tolerant of multiboxing as WoW. Have you researched WAR's policy on this matter?

The way I see it, multiboxing gives the person a tremendous advantage in PVP when focusing DPS with ranged classes. WAR being an extremely PVP heavy game, I can see the designers being a bit allergic to multiboxing.

And honestly, I can't see them bringing WAR's spec too far out of reach of bargain/student gamers. For such an expensively produced game with the ambition of being a WoW killer, they'd be killing a big chunk of their own potential market share.
08-01-2007, 04:43 AM
MrLonghair

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Originally Posted by mmcookies

Not every game is as tolerant of multiboxing as WoW. Have you researched WAR's policy on this matter?

I've asked, expecting answer before the end of the month.

They just added a lighting engine to WAR (yes, everything that we have seen but the menu screen orc video has been fully lit!) and dog knows what the performance is like now, but right now if you can run World of Warcraft, you can run WAR.

(Going by things mentioned in interviews and Q&As)
08-01-2007, 07:07 AM
Xzin

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Originally Posted by clesven

BTW, why is the middle SLIED with the one on the left? The two sides are x16 and the middles x8.

It doesn't matter really. SLI is broken anyway driver side. The option never even appears, which is quite funny (?) due to the amount I paid for these things.

Nvidia needs to get their driver mess straightened out.
08-01-2007, 09:52 AM
Morganti

I 4 boxed PvP/PvE in DAoC which is from the same folks that are making WAR. Definitely not easy, but unless they changed policies big time it's allowed. Hell, 1/2 of the people in the game ran buff bots.
08-01-2007, 11:43 AM
Picticon

I'll also chime in on DAoC. I multi-boxed 8 characters there (parties were 8 people). I was appealed hundreds of times, and only once talked to a CSR (GM). Basically they are only concerned about automated (unattended) characters.

Of course... Mythic was bought be EA a year ago. So they might use EA's policies. But then again, EA gave Mythic Ultima Online to run, so maybe Mythic is in charge of the MMORPGs.
08-01-2007, 12:42 PM
MrLonghair

Mythic/EA doesn't mind multiboxing in DaoC, only the players do (like partyfuls of rangers just after the ranger remake patch showed up earlier this year), so I think we have nothing but the long learning process of a new game with new gameplay to worry about.
08-01-2007, 01:15 PM
Runiat

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Originally Posted by MrLonghair

Mythic/EA doesn't mind multiboxing in DaoC, only the players do (like partyfuls of rangers just after the ranger remake patch showed up earlier this year), so I think we have nothing but the long learning process of a new game with new gameplay to worry about.

On the other hand, one of their podcasts very clearly stated:
"There will be no buffbots"
Of course, as it then went on to explain that that'll be because you can only buff your group it's entirely possible that multiboxing will still be possible, but the info coming from gamesdays isn't looking good: No one has found a /follow, /stick, or /face command so far.

Unless they make it as easy as WoW I doubt I'll do it anyway. I mean, no buffbotting, not very effective healbotting (compared to a singleboxing healer who'd heal just as well and do some decent dmg/CC), so without a macro-system to allow for easy targeting (cba to constantly choose main as my target, assist, THEN start attacking) it might just not be worth it.
I mean, with players not being able to walk through eachother (which is nice) you can rule out double melee and an alt might even get in the way. Might also get in the way of your enemy, of course..
08-01-2007, 01:23 PM
clesven

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Originally Posted by Xzin

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Originally Posted by clesven

BTW, why is the middle SLIED with the one on the left? The two sides are x16 and the middles x8.

It doesn't matter really. SLI is broken anyway driver side. The option never even appears, which is quite funny (?) due to the amount I paid for these things.

Nvidia needs to get their driver mess straightened out.

You mean broken on Vista?...because I know that, which is why I would go XP :D .
08-01-2007, 01:35 PM
Xzin

Are you kidding? I don't touch Vista.
08-01-2007, 02:08 PM
Morganti

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Originally Posted by Picticon

I'll also chime in on DAoC. I multi-boxed 8 characters there (parties were 8 people). I was appealed hundreds of times, and only once talked to a CSR (GM). Basically they are only concerned about automated (unattended) characters.

Of course... Mythic was bought be EA a year ago. So they might use EA's policies. But then again, EA gave Mythic Ultima Online to run, so maybe Mythic is in charge of the MMORPGs.

I knew a guy who would 4-8 box ML9 using macros in an automated fashion on Lance ;) I still don't understand how he did it for so long and never got caught, but I heard later that he made a ton of money selling plats from it.
08-01-2007, 02:47 PM
clesven

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Originally Posted by Xzin

Are you kidding? I don't touch Vista.

Hmm... random, well I'll look into that more if I ever decide to jump the gun with that idea, anyways.

I know that people multi box on DAOC and Mythic would obviously want to keep the dynamics that made DAOC so successful but upgrade them for the new generation, so I thought they would also allow multi boxing. I was planning on sending an e-mail, but they could always change the rule, so I thought I would just ask upon release. Dumb question but I don't feel like looking because it's not that important to me ATM :lol: , but is WAR DX9 or DX10 (i hope DX9) and is it a Vista only game like Halo 2 or will it run on XP also without modifying it?
08-01-2007, 02:54 PM
Xzin

Lack of /follow would certainly hinder boxing in WAR.
08-01-2007, 03:03 PM
clesven

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Originally Posted by Xzin

Lack of /follow would certainly hinder boxing in WAR.

Move characters on top of eachother and then keyclone the whole keyboard and have 5 of the same character. You can level to 50 as fast as somebody pveing by just pvping so they say, so it should be the best multiboxing game ever.
08-01-2007, 03:12 PM
Xzin

Until fear, root, disconnects, saps, stuns, death, etc etc.
08-01-2007, 06:21 PM
Stabface

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Originally Posted by clesven

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xzin

Lack of /follow would certainly hinder boxing in WAR.

Move characters on top of eachother and then keyclone the whole keyboard and have 5 of the same character. You can level to 50 as fast as somebody pveing by just pvping so they say, so it should be the best multiboxing game ever.

Except there's character collision, right?
08-01-2007, 06:31 PM
clesven

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Originally Posted by Stabface

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Originally Posted by clesven

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Originally Posted by Xzin

Lack of /follow would certainly hinder boxing in WAR.

Move characters on top of eachother and then keyclone the whole keyboard and have 5 of the same character. You can level to 50 as fast as somebody pveing by just pvping so they say, so it should be the best multiboxing game ever.

Except there's character collision, right?

LOL, there is? Can you say blocking entrances with trial accounts please.
08-01-2007, 06:51 PM
Stabface

I stand corrected - the collision in WAR is only against enemy targets, not friendlies.
08-01-2007, 10:47 PM
Runiat

There's still:

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Originally Posted by Xzin

Until fear, root, disconnects, saps, stuns, death, etc etc.
08-03-2007, 11:58 PM
esoterik

there was some Q&A with the devs that they said they were including /follow and were considering /stick and /face.
08-04-2007, 02:21 AM
Xzin

Hellooooo multiboxing WAR.

Well - not ENTIRELY sure I want to ... waiting to see how it pans out and comes together.

I do love WoWs combat systems and highly advanced UI modification possibilities. Not something one would expect to find in WAR for a year or more. Assuming their APIs and code is even ever as advanced as Blizzes.

We shall see though.