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Let's say you were starting over, 5 boxing. You have 5 cute level 1 gnomes, and nothing else. How would you go about it? No SoR/RaF.
Level a mixed team to 85 first?
Level one class x 5, i.e. 5 mages, 5 dk's, etc at a time to 85, then mix & match later?
Get one guy to 85, and just use him to boost 4 others at a time?
Keep all toons on the same server/faction?
Mainly for PvE.
Sometimes I think I should have leveled teams of all the same classes first, then once I had several classes leveled I could build PvE teams of any mix I wanted.
But that would take too long, so I would just level a PvE team first.
First team: Pali tank, 3 x ele shamans, 1 x restro shaman.
Second team: 5 x mages (so I have access to ports from any toon)
I would probably do 5x mages and so that I could use them to level others later on.
If I was starting over, and only had an investment of one toon per account...
I'd probably ditch four of the accounts, pick up four new ones and go with RAF.
A > B > C
A > D > E
Possibly transfer a character, from the existing accounts if they're leveled/geared enough...
Assuming you set up RAF, or decide not to...
You'd want to get your toons into a Level 25 guild, for the perks.
Or baring that, the highest guild you can join on the server.
You'd also probably want to be on a server with other boxers.
Since you don't have much investment on the current server.
I would probably level either Feral Druids or Paladins.
Because 5x the same is easier than a mixed team.
And either group includes both a Tank, Healer and DPS toons...
Which allows you to run instances for gearing and the accrual of Justice points to buy heirlooms with.
Just because you don't start with heirlooms doesn't mean it isn't worth a week or so of running instances to get a full set.
I'd likely get the Cloth pieces with +Experience, because any toon can wear them and honestly 5x Warriors totally in cloth and using a weapon from 20 levels back... will still quest just fine.
With RAF, the fastest way to level a team is to boost them.
So boosting is going to be the fastest method, without RAF as well.
It's just other methods will be a lot closer than before...
Example...
Speed is 100 when Boosting = 300 with RAF.
Speed is 80 when Questing = 240 with RAF.
If Boosting is the number 1 method and Questing is the number 2 method, the relative order of the most efficient leveling techniques is not going to change.
So my goal, after heirlooms will be to have a strong booster (Prot or Ret Paladin, Feral Druid), to boost other teams with.
I'd probably create all the teams and log them in.
Just so they begin to collect rested experience.
And if I knew I wanted "x" teams, bounce between them to optimize the use of the Rested experience.
I'm personally enjoying...
- 5x Druids, both as Feral and Resto.
- 4x Frost Death Knights, with 1x Holy Paladin.
I'm leveling, for MoP:
- 5x Paladins, which will dual spec Ret and Holy.
- Will likely run 4x Ret, with 1x Death Knight.
I'm tempted to level my Warlocks (20ish now).
- 4x Warlocks and 1x Priest.
In the past, I've liked:
- Paladin Tank, 3x Elemental Shaman, 1x Warlock
... but toons have moved to other teams, and the Pally is actually on another server (The Zerg) as a Healer now...
Beyond that, I have:
- 5x Priest
- 5x Hunter
- Mix: Blood DK, Disc Priest, Elem Shaman, Destro Lock, Arcane Mage.
- 3x Elemental Shaman, 1x Elemental & Resto Shaman, 1x Boomkin and Feral (will be Guardian in MoP) Druid.
... Plus others that are there purely because they're high enough for tradeskills.
... And others, who are purely bankers... seven guild banks currently.
simple as that huh Ualaa? I like mages for the big burst damage but no healie clotheeys been there, die too much. pets are where it is at. Hunters and locks
I've 5-boxed through dungeons without RAF...it was soo slooooow. 10 days /played 1-80 in wotlk, including idling in Ironforge and levelling professions.
Never again...I would also drop those accounts and create new ones. Even xferring the new toons back onto the old accounts would be preferrable to me (which I have done).
Makeup would def be pally, 3 elesham, 1 rsham. It's just that OP. resto just keeps earth shield up, eles just CL to victory, and 4x healing stream totems make party damage almost a non-issue until BC dungeons.
I started over with 4 hunters. I lvl from x0 and x5 up to x3 and x8 and BG from there. As in I BG the last 2 lvls of each bracket and quest the first 3 for some gear. It's just so much fun, 100% win ratio atm.
After much pondering, I'll do what Uulaa & confusedtx5 suggest. Drop 4 accounts, RaF 4 new ones, and get new teams to 80 quick. Hunters, mages, dk's, paladins. Maybe I'll get every class x 5 to 80 for maximum versatility. I assume there is no limit to how many toons you can boost & grant levels to?
Wondering if it's worth paying another $35 to move my 80 alliance pally to Magtheridon, or just start fresh with all 5? I think 4 new accounts + xpacs is $200ish?
Man, this is a pricey hobby!
It sometimes seems like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3box
I think the monthly cost and game purchase puts it cheaper than what I spend on my bowling league once a week. What makes it expensive is the computer to play on. A bowling ball costs $200 for a nice one, computer costs 1.5k
Overall I still think its a good inexpensive hobby.
No doubt John. Sure keeps me out of trouble.
And thanks to Tiny(The Zerg), I'm in the sister guild now :)
Maybe I'll make a 5 x paladin team first, and the non-raf account one can be the booster. Or hunters. Or druids. Decisions decisions.
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Originally Posted by 3box
If you're boosting...
And you'd be able to boost very well with an already 80, and somewhat (maybe very) geared toon, at least to the upper 70's...
You could also run the Pally through Cata content to be 84/85 in quest stuff, before RAF, which would make WotLK 80's dungeons quite easy to boost in.
I'd transfer the one toon.
I actually did faction change + server change, on five toons... which sucked for the costs, but the Magtheridon guys are great and I'm having lots of fun there.
A (Pally) > B > C
A (Pally) > D > E
Boost four toons on BCDE.
End up with:
A: 1x Booster +4 Granted (2 from B & 2 from D) +2 Additional Granted (Because B/D each were granted two, letting them grant one more each).
B: 4x Boosted +2 Granted (From C)
C: 4x Boosted
D: 4x Boosted +2 Granted (From E)
E: 4x Boosted
That's:
A = 6 new toons (and the Pally)
B/D = 6 new toons
C/E = 4 new toons
A toon leveled from 1st to 80th, with RAF can grant 39 levels (not 40, for some reason)...
So each pair of toons, can grant 78 levels between them.
So the toons who are receiving granted levels, would be leveled to 2nd... and be as close as possible to 3rd.
So after gaining 78 additional levels, they're 80th and very close to 81st.
Appreciate the advice Ualaa. Already started in the last few hours. Cancelled 4 accounts, have 4 new RaF ones. Started 5 druids and 5 paladins(Beefyone, Sandyone) in the Protoss guild for now. Yes, the RaF bonus is surreal.
Very happy camper right now:)
Edit: Decided to wait on the paladin for now, since it's $55 to transfer him(alliance), and he's only 80. It's going well enough without him I'd say:)
Before I stopped (and now have resumed) boxing, this was my goal - to have as much flexibility as possible. But oy gevalt, leveling a team just really takes it out of me, and by the time I was ready to level again, RAF would run out.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGabriel
Leveling without RAF sucks immensely.
Late WotLK, I leveled 4x Druids (well 5x) to join my existing druid.
And that was without RAF.
The composition (leveling as Feral) was quite fun so I basically played them all the way through.
This expansion... late Cataclysm...
I am in the process of leveling 5x Paladins to 80th.
At which point, one will drop and a DK will join them.
I envision 4x Rets + 1x Frost DK (AoE DeathGrip & Purge away bubbles/iceblocks) as the main spec.
But going with an off-spec of 4x Holy and 1x Blood (because many are stupid and will target the lead toon, plus this will allow for easier taking out the opposing General in AV/IoC).
Leveling without RAF blows...
I've got baby Warlocks...
4x Warlock, 1x Priest...
At the low 20's.
But that's another team, without RAF.
Maybe towards the end of MoP.
The part I hate is getting to 15 to begin doing dungeons - I actually don't mind running dungeons too much just because each run is a level until around 25-30, and by that level you start getting new toys with most classes. I at least have 20% xp gain, and might just go crazy farming for the shoulders and chests I don't have, just so everyone gains 45% xp, but that means not boxing my team up for a bit. Bleh - I wish early dungeons gave a handful of JP!
I'd say do it. Your new team will gain a little rested and it will break up the monotony of leveling.Quote:
Originally Posted by kate
Yeah, I'm mixing it up - boxing the druid/mage/priest replacements a little, then doing a few heroics on my well geared tank, then my 5x team, and round and round it goes.
Im changing server and faction and i want to box again and im thinking of buying new accounts so i can RAF up again. im just not sure if i should buy 4 and have them on a 2 different battle.net ID's or just buy 5 sets and raf 5 on The new battle.net ID (probably transferring over a booster).
Will the New sharing of Battle.net mounts and etc be worth the added pain of starting from scratch? or 5 sepperate Battle.nets?
There is no real advantage of separate B.Nets anymore.
Back when one authenticator could be attached to all five B.Nets, for a single code and everyone was/is in... that was worthwhile.
Now, with a max of one B.Net for an authenticator, that advantage is gone.
I believe you can have a max of eight Wows on one B.Net.
You can also call Billing and get them to move accounts onto and off of a given B.Net; if the person says they cannot do that, call again... as some will do that service for you.
I wouldn't go with a second B.Net, until I had more than eight active accounts running together.
But it's up to you.
oh ok, i didn't realize that they could take an account off your battle.net. Ok that helps so if i can get 2 accounts removed off my original battle.net then ill be able to fit the new 4. (its caped at 8 wow accounts right? not including PTR and Beta?)
That's the way it works for US accounts, you might not have the same ability outside the US. You'll need to call billing to see what they can do. And even then, you might need to call a few times, since you can never be sure who has their head up their butt and who actually knows what they're talking about.
http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...er-of-accounts
And yes, the cap is 8 accounts.