How to: Ele shamans 5s.

Printable View

08-15-2011, 07:24 AM
Nikita

How to: Ele shamans 5s.

Ive gotten a few whispers and messages about my ele shaman setup. If you have any questions, post em here.

Comp:
This composition consists of playing 4 elemental shamans.

Add0ns:
Jamba (Best multiboxing addon out there.)
Gladius (Arena unit frames, show`s me the opposing teams setup and spec.)
Shadow Unit Frames (Simple party frame addon which shows me if my shamans are locked down and cant cast.)

Specs: Elemental
Shaman 1: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#hGGGGRfkzZbhZbh
Shaman 2: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#huGGGRfkbZbhZbh
Shaman 3: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#hGGGGRfkzZbhZbh
Shaman 4: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#huGGGRfkbZbhZbh

Glyphs:
- Elemental
Prime: Glyph of Lava Burst, Glyph of Unleashed Lightning, Glyph of Lightning Bolt
Major: Glyph of Stoneclaw Totem, Glyph of Hex, Glyph of Thunder
Minor: Glyph of Artic Wolf, Glyph of Water Walking, Glyph of Renewed Life

DPS macro:
- Elemental
This is my kill macro.
/assist focus
/use Ruthless Gladiator's Badge of Dominance
/use 10
/use Lifeblood
/cast Elemental Mastery
/castsequence reset=/8 Lava Burst, Chain Lightning, Earth Shock

Other then this I have LB, CL, ES, FS, US and LvB on seperate keybinds.

I have hex setup to cast on arena 1-4.

Shaman 1:
#showtooltip Hex
/cast [target=arena1] Hex

Shaman 2:
#showtooltip Hex
/cast [target=arena2] Hex

Shaman 3:
#showtooltip Hex
/cast [target=arena3] Hex

Shaman 4:
#showtooltip Hex
/cast [target=arena4] Hex

I also have WS setup to cast on arena 1-4

Shaman 1:
#showtooltip Wind Shear
/cast [target=arena1] Wind Shear

Shaman 2:
#showtooltip Wind Shear
/cast [target=arena2] Wind Shear

Shaman 3:
#showtooltip Wind Shear
/cast [target=arena3] Wind Shear

Shaman 4:
#showtooltip Wind Shear
/cast [target=arena4] Wind Shear

Since I have the Glyph of Unleashed Lightning I have a macro which do this:

<Hotkey ScrollLockOn Shift T>
<SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4,w5>
<Key Shift T>

Shift T sends:
/assist focus
/cast Lightning Bolt

<Hotkeyup ScrollLockOn Shift T>
<SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4,w5>
<Key K>

Key K sends interact with target.

This helps me gather up after a fear, or chase down healers/melees. Quiet handy.

How to deal with fears:

I have tremor on round robin.

First keypress:

Shaman 1: Tremor Totem
Shaman 2: Grounding Totem
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Grounding Totem

Second Keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Tremor Totem
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Grounding Totem

Third keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Grounding Totem
Shaman 3: Tremor Totem
Shaman 4: Grounding Totem

Fourth Keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Grounding Totem
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Tremor Totem

This ensures me that I have grounding totem up all the time. Which is kinda needed against caster comps. Also good to have VS 3 melee + 2 healer comps, since they will try to CC my healer or my shamans with Hex, fears, strangulate etc.

How to deal with melees:
First keypress:

Shaman 1: Thunderstorm
Shaman 2: Earthbind Totem
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Grounding Totem

Second Keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Thunderstorm
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Grounding Totem

Third keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Grounding Totem
Shaman 3: Thunderstorm
Shaman 4: Earthbind Totem

Fourth Keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Earthbind Totem
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Thunderstorm

Gear PvP:
Get the spell pen neck.
I go for the 4 set bonus on the elemental gear, then I use the resto head for mastery.

- Gemming

Stack intellect, since this is our strongest stat.

- Enchanting

Im a huge fan of mastery. Ive tried stacking and reforging haste, but when I go for kills, sometimes my targets were down to less then 5000 hp. But now that Im going for mastery, having LvB proc gives me that kill.

Head: 60 intellect + 35 resilience
Shoulders: 50 intellect + 25 resilience
Back: 50 intellect
Chest: +20 to all stats
Wrist: 65 mastery
Gloves: 65 mastery
Belt: Belt Buckle
Legs: 95 intellect + 80 stamina
Boots: 50 mastery

- Reforging

Prio list on reforging:
1. Hit capped
2. Mastery

Composition:

- Healers

As any multiboxing comp you need a solid healer such as a priest or holy paladin. Mix it up to suit your playstyle. I find playing with a priest is better, since I feel that holy paladins lack AOE healing. And lets face it, once the bubble is out, the paladin is fucked.

- Arena

I never go offensive, I wait for the other team to charge me. If they go defensive I try to stack up my lightning shield orbs by shooting CL on pets, and totems.
3 melee + 2 healers:
Allways go for Dk or warrior first. Force the DK to use AMS early in the fight, purge both of em. After that you use thunderstorm and earthbind, do a quick hex on healers, and kill the DK or warrior quick. If the warrior uses Spell Reflect, use wind shear to clear it away.
Against caster teams I recommend to kill the mage first! Allways go for the mage, he`s the one screwing up with RoF and polymorph. Force the mage to Iceblock early, then you switch to lock/ele shaman/boomkin. When the mage is healed up, and is out of Iceblock, do a quick hex then use your kill rotation and finish him off.
If I dont get a kill on a dps on the first burst wave, I tend to switch to resto shamans, they are insanely squishy once they`ve used Natures Swiftness.

Classes to watch out for:
Ele shamans <- If you see a ele shaman on the opposing team, try to force him to go offensive quick. They have insane burst once they have 9 stacks of Lightning Shield. I allways make my healer watch out on how many stacks he`s got.
BM hunters <- Insane burst at the start, so when I see him popping BM, I switch to him and force him to use deterrence, so his burst will be wasted.
Boomkins <- Only thing you should watch out for here is the Typhoon spell. This is only if you are standing on bridges or on top of pillars.
Mages <- RoF and polymorph is a pain to deal with. As I wrote earlier, try to force him to iceblock straight away. Usualy 4 x FS and 4 x LvB will make him Iceblock, once he is out, switch back and finish him off.
Go for kill situations:

If the opposing healers are far away, and their melee runs behind me, I do a quick Thunderstorm + earthbind, turn around and finish em off while my priest runs and fears the opposing healers. And if a warrior pops recklesness he dies instantly, my healers tells me this aswell.

- BG
Spam LB and CL, ppl will die anyways :)

- RBG
Havent tried this one yet, since Im not sure if it will work. But once I try it, I`ll post here.

Other tips:
Find a good healer and stick with him/her. You will only get better aslong as you play with the same healer.
My healer doesnt focus entirely on healing, he tells me when a warrior pops recklesness, when rogues uses smokebomb, when my priest is CCed and cant heal, he tells me that I need to heal myself. This makes my job killing alot easier.

If I`ve missed out on anything crucial, please let me know. And im not a grammar god, so trolls keep out!
Nikita
08-15-2011, 08:52 AM
death

nice one nikita :D awesome for people wanting to or using ele shaman, i found this to be intresting
08-15-2011, 09:17 AM
tanknspanker

Thx a bunch!
excactly what I needed!
Thx!
08-15-2011, 01:26 PM
Bollwerk

Excellent post.
Quick question - Why not get the leg enchant with spirit? Seems like it would be better for dps.

Does Gladius show enemy casting bars, so you can see what they are casting easily? Or do you use another mod for that?
08-15-2011, 02:33 PM
Nikita

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollwerk

Excellent post.
Quick question - Why not get the leg enchant with spirit? Seems like it would be better for dps.

Does Gladius show enemy casting bars, so you can see what they are casting easily? Or do you use another mod for that?

Spirit will only give ele shamans hit and mana regen. So Id say go for the stamina one, more survivability in arena = profit.

Gladius show`s enemy casting bars aswell. You can configure it to show raid warnings when they pop CDs or casting dangerous spells :)
08-16-2011, 12:45 AM
Bollwerk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikita

Spirit will only give ele shamans hit and mana regen. So Id say go for the stamina one, more survivability in arena = profit.

Right, but your other enchant and gem advice say to go for dps (int, hit, mastery). Since you need at least SOME spirit to get to 4% hit, it seems like the leg enchant is a logical place to get some of that. If survivability were most important, wouldn't you gem for stamina and resilience? Maybe I'm just nitpicking here. Just struck me as contradictory advice, that's all. I realize you need a balance of survival and dps.
08-16-2011, 12:53 AM
Bollwerk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikita

Since I have the Glyph of Unleashed Lightning I have a macro which do this:

<Hotkey ScrollLockOn Shift T>
<SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4,w5>
<Key Shift T>

Shift T sends:
/assist focus
/cast Lightning Bolt

<Hotkeyup ScrollLockOn Shift T>
<SendLabel w1,w2,w3,w4,w5>
<Key K>

Key K sends interact with target.

This helps me gather up after a fear, or chase down healers/melees. Quiet handy.

I'm guessing this is HotKeyNet?
Can anyone translate this into how ISBoxer would do it?
Are you basically just casting LB on key press and doing IWT on key release? Or vice versa? Or am I missing something?
Wouldn't it make more sense to IWT BEFORE you cast LB?
08-16-2011, 01:45 AM
Khatovar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollwerk

I'm guessing this is HotKeyNet?
Can anyone translate this into how ISBoxer would do it?
Are you basically just casting LB on key press and doing IWT on key release? Or vice versa? Or am I missing something?
Wouldn't it make more sense to IWT BEFORE you cast LB?

Yes, LB on press, IWT on release. If it's for "gather up after a fear, or chase down healers/melees." you'd want to acquire the proper target before interact, thus the /assist + cast macro first.

I'm guessing it's along the lines of this with ISBoxer

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost....58&postcount=7
08-16-2011, 05:34 AM
zenga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollwerk

Right, but your other enchant and gem advice say to go for dps (int, hit, mastery). Since you need at least SOME spirit to get to 4% hit, it seems like the leg enchant is a logical place to get some of that. If survivability were most important, wouldn't you gem for stamina and resilience? Maybe I'm just nitpicking here. Just struck me as contradictory advice, that's all. I realize you need a balance of survival and dps.

You don't need any spirit to hitcap. Which basically gives 3 free points out of elemental precision to spend somewhere else. You can be entirely hitcapped from gear and reforging.
08-16-2011, 06:23 AM
Nikita

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollwerk

I'm guessing this is HotKeyNet?
Can anyone translate this into how ISBoxer would do it?
Are you basically just casting LB on key press and doing IWT on key release? Or vice versa? Or am I missing something?
Wouldn't it make more sense to IWT BEFORE you cast LB?

Assisting my target first, then start casting LBs, then IWT. Works like a charm :)
08-16-2011, 06:27 AM
Nikita

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollwerk

Right, but your other enchant and gem advice say to go for dps (int, hit, mastery). Since you need at least SOME spirit to get to 4% hit, it seems like the leg enchant is a logical place to get some of that. If survivability were most important, wouldn't you gem for stamina and resilience? Maybe I'm just nitpicking here. Just struck me as contradictory advice, that's all. I realize you need a balance of survival and dps.

Not enchant and gems, reforging.

I use some resto pieces to get the hit cap which is 4 % for me since Im a Spacegoat. If you check out my spec you see that I have a total of 24 % dmg reduction with talents, and inc healing done to me by 15 % and healing done by me by 6 %. And my resilience gives me 39,11 % dmg reduction. This alone is enough to survive heavy burst waves. Stack intellect in all gem slots. And use reforging to get hit capped, after you are hit capped go for mastery or haste.
08-16-2011, 06:27 PM
Bollwerk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khatovar

Yes, LB on press, IWT on release. If it's for "gather up after a fear, or chase down healers/melees." you'd want to acquire the proper target before interact, thus the /assist + cast macro first.

I'm guessing it's along the lines of this with ISBoxer

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost....58&postcount=7

OK, but if you aren't facing your target then you begin casting LB, won't the cast fail?
This is why it seems more logical to do IWT on key press, then cast LB on key release.
Or am I confused?
08-17-2011, 05:11 AM
Nikita

I spam this button, so on the keyup it sends IWT. Takes less then 1/2 second to start chasing down my targets.
08-17-2011, 08:54 PM
Bollwerk

Nikita - Do you ever bother to spread your toons out, or do you just leave them clumped up until fear/etc?
08-18-2011, 12:44 AM
Nikita

Only time I spread is when Im up against 5 warriors. Else I stay grouped. It kinda depends on the setup, if its 4 melee + healer they tend to train my healer, so usualy never have to spread out to minimize cleave dmg. And since 4 x healing rain + 4 x healing stream totems do some heavy healing that aint a issue :)
08-18-2011, 04:10 PM
mihon

Thank you nikita :D Waiting for this one long time now ^^
08-18-2011, 04:40 PM
Nikita

Glad to help out :) please post any questions if you have any
08-18-2011, 04:49 PM
mihon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikita

Glad to help out :) please post any questions if you have any

Yeah , i was wundering how your ui looks like ? how is it organsied ?
08-18-2011, 05:23 PM
Nikita

Ive got a few pictures in the screenshot section of achievements, go check it out :)
08-19-2011, 07:56 PM
Bollwerk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khatovar

Yes, LB on press, IWT on release. If it's for "gather up after a fear, or chase down healers/melees." you'd want to acquire the proper target before interact, thus the /assist + cast macro first.

I'm guessing it's along the lines of this with ISBoxer

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost....58&postcount=7

I already have a working IWT hotkey in ISboxer, but I can't seem to get to to also cast Lightning Bolt on either keypress or key release. Any idea how to make this work?
I've tried setting up wow macros in ISboxer for /cast Lightning Bolt and giving the IWT setup steps to send that macro to each Shaman, but they never end up casting LB. They just turn and face the target, like it has always done.
HELP!!!!
08-20-2011, 02:00 PM
Bollwerk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikita

How to deal with fears:

I have tremor on round robin.

First keypress:

Shaman 1: Tremor Totem
Shaman 2: Grounding Totem
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Grounding Totem

Second Keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Tremor Totem
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Grounding Totem

Third keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Grounding Totem
Shaman 3: Tremor Totem
Shaman 4: Grounding Totem

Fourth Keypress:

Shaman 1: Grounding Totem
Shaman 2: Grounding Totem
Shaman 3: Grounding Totem
Shaman 4: Tremor Totem

This ensures me that I have grounding totem up all the time. Which is kinda needed against caster comps. Also good to have VS 3 melee + 2 healer comps, since they will try to CC my healer or my shamans with Hex, fears, strangulate etc.

I don't understand how this would work, because you can't cast Grounding Totem while feared. Therefore, only the Shaman that has Tremor totem ready for that rotation would end up casting Tremor Totem and you'd have no Grounding Totems down, unless you have some way of delaying the casting of Grounding totems until after Tremor is down. But I don't see how that would work.
08-21-2011, 04:22 AM
Shodokan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollwerk

I don't understand how this would work, because you can't cast Grounding Totem while feared. Therefore, only the Shaman that has Tremor totem ready for that rotation would end up casting Tremor Totem and you'd have no Grounding Totems down, unless you have some way of delaying the casting of Grounding totems until after Tremor is down. But I don't see how that would work.

do not go forward for 2 seconds, hit button twice, tada.
09-06-2011, 04:20 AM
Völu

I tryed your DPS macro but it doesen't work. It has alway the Coldown of the DPS Trinket. Do I make something wrong?

DPS macro:
- Elemental
This is my kill macro.
/assist focus
/use Ruthless Gladiator's Badge of Dominance
/use 10
/use Lifeblood
/cast Elemental Mastery
/castsequence reset=/8 Lava Burst, Chain Lightning, Earth Shock
09-06-2011, 04:27 AM
RSM72

The icon on your taskbar is just showing the cooldown for that trinket because it is the first spell in your macro. Just hit it multiple times even if it shows the cooldown it will work fine.

EDIT: other than that its probably stopping at Lifeblood if you're not an alchemist
09-06-2011, 01:18 PM
smalltanker

That should work.

I use thea version of this but as a troll I also use the troll berzerk racial ability. I don't know what use 10 is but I typically do a use 13 and use 14 for both trinkets.
09-06-2011, 02:32 PM
Lyonheart

Quote:

Originally Posted by smalltanker

I don't know what use 10 is

glove slot ( engineer enchant )
09-07-2011, 06:10 AM
Völu

It works fine. I was just confused because ot the Icon...
09-07-2011, 07:05 AM
Nikita

I have it this way so I can monitor my trinket since that is our biggest boost in dmg. Lifeblood and the engineering enchant isnt as big as my trinket boost, so I dont feel the need to monitor those :)
09-13-2011, 06:52 AM
valkry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Völu

It works fine. I was just confused because ot the Icon...

do "#showtooltip spell" as one of the first lines of whatever spell you want to be the icon.
01-19-2012, 12:51 PM
sethlan

Awesome info , thanks Nikita

btw, looks like you went haste over mastery? i'm keeping mine at equal, so i have some haste and some mastery.
I see people running more mastery sometimes more haste, very confused which way should i reforge
01-19-2012, 01:05 PM
sethlan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollwerk

I don't understand how this would work, because you can't cast Grounding Totem while feared. Therefore, only the Shaman that has Tremor totem ready for that rotation would end up casting Tremor Totem and you'd have no Grounding Totems down, unless you have some way of delaying the casting of Grounding totems until after Tremor is down. But I don't see how that would work.

I'm still learning but what I did for tremor totem, I set mine on keyboard "S" whenever i get feared, I press S, if I get fear again i switch window, and hit S again.
01-19-2012, 06:58 PM
Nikita

mastery gives a chance to proc a similar spell, haste gives you faster casts on dmg spells, aswell as healing spells. There isnt any right/wrong answer here, do what you like.

The way you handle tremor totem is both time consuming and not very effective. What software are you using?
01-19-2012, 09:09 PM
Ualaa

From your badge, you have an IS Boxer/Inner Space subscription.

Why not make a mapped key, for Tremor Totem.
Give it the hotkey: S, since you're already used to that.
Either:
a) Have one step for each Shaman, which sends the "S" key to that Shaman only... and likely set the mapped key to not advance to the next step for half a second or so, to protect you against accidentally spamming the key; or
b) Put each of your Shammies in the same Action Target Group, and use that ATG as the target for the single step on the Mapped Key... just check the box to round-robin, within the target group... probably do the same, do not advance for at least 0.5 seconds...
01-19-2012, 11:40 PM
turbo92

hey nikita, we should try some rbG sometime :)
i've quit trying to 5 box 1 pala + 4 dk, and just went 4 dk and a healer friend, not that geared yet since my solo char is pulling alot of my attention atm

Edit: so close
01-20-2012, 01:55 AM
Nikita

Rbh? You mean random bg, right? :)
01-20-2012, 12:46 PM
turbo92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikita

Rbh? You mean random bg, right? :)

fixed it and yes :)