Professions for 40

Have just finished up setting up my RAFfage and am now thinking about what I want to do in terms of professions as I aim for one of each class at 85 on all accounts.

I already have all profs maxed on my main account so I don't really need any crafting profs to create gear for the teams and I don't need any more gatherers so I'm looking at the best way to maximise gold so I can waste it on Vials/Choppers/Mammoths for all.

My first thought is to break down all the chars into potential teams and make sure I have an enchanter for each team I might run instances with, but no more than is needed. After that I'm figuring that all of them should be alchemists for the xmutes but after that I'm conflicted.

If I take them all as JC's I have a boatload of chimera's per day for either the AH or to craft and AH. If I take them all as scribes I have a lot more chances per day at darkmoon cards that potentially will sell for more. If I take them all as tailors I have dreamcloth cd's to use, but I see this as the least profitable longterm of the options.

All up, assuming I can get through all 40 chars to 80 in the RAF time (should be doable) then I will have:

* 9 chanters (max)
* 40 alchemists
* 31 xxxx and here is where I need the advice.

I will also likely not be trying to min-max any of these guys for raiding as I have that on my main 10 so not really worrying about getting best prof per class.

If you can be bothered with setting up APM and reposting glyphs a couple of days. Restocking them, then Inscription is a pure goldmine. Once you know all glyphs, that'll beat quite a few alchemists profit wise.
It ofcouse matters how many active people you have on your realm who will undercut you. So that's my tip, level one of those. Besides that it'll spare you loads of gold buying glyphs, since you can make them.

Alchemists has always been the most popular proffesion amongst boxers, so that seems like a good pick, Not sure about the second one. Tailor is probably easy. JC could make more profit, slighty annoying to do the JC daily 8 times aswell.(if the item that's needed drops for the whole team, else you have to farm 40 of them)

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If I take them all as scribes I have a lot more chances per day at darkmoon cards that potentially will sell for more

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Not sure what this means. You have to buy herbs to mill to make cards to make decks, how does chance play a part?


Its a tough call though; get one of each profession with those extra beyond that there are just to many things to consider (will dreamcloth get you more then chimera eyes?). You are doing right on the 9 and 40 but as to the 31 ....

You can only base that on your servers current prices but those prices could change at any time .....

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

Not sure what this means. You have to buy herbs to mill to make cards to make decks, how does chance play a part?..

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Well don't need to buy, will just go and do a herbing run once a week to get them enough supplies once I need to, and meant that given can only generate one card per day per scribe, and not all of those cards will be useful/be what I need, I will have more chances per day to generate the cards I specifically need to complete any specific decks I am trying to create for sale.

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Originally Posted by Knytestorme

Well don't need to buy, will just go and do a herbing run once a week to get them enough supplies once I need to, and meant that given can only generate one card per day per scribe, and not all of those cards will be useful/be what I need, I will have more chances per day to generate the cards I specifically need to complete any specific decks I am trying to create for sale.

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I'm 95% sure there is no cooldown on creating Darkmoon cards. There never was, didn't level my scribe to cata standards though. So the only gain in having more scribes is that you can learn new glyphs twice as fast. Since you can only learn 1 new major/prime and 1 minor glyph each day through the Research.

There is no cooldown this is with 2 scribes (just so I can mill twice as fast)


http://samdeathwalker.com/forum/show...?p=330#post330

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

There is no cooldown this is with 2 scribes (just so I can mill twice as fast)


http://samdeathwalker.com/forum/show...?p=330#post330

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Damn, that's an impressive deck collection.

Hmmm, guess that makes the decision easy then to go with JC's. I was sure there was a cd on cards, guess I should have looked first lol

I have 5 JCs and don't regret it for a second. Here is why:

You can learn all the recipes 5x as fast. I did a break down analysis of all rare recipes a while back.

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=34412


I assign each JC a different color or meta. Once I get all the recipes I want, I stockpile JC tokens until I am at a comfortable level (current I have 40 tokens per JC saved). That way when epic recipes hit or anything new is added, I can buy all the recipes at once and dominate the market. Any tokens over the my cap I use to buy chimera's eyes to sale on the AH.

Moreover, you can still do the Dalaran daily. Now, you are probably going to ask why would you want to ever do the JC daily from last expansion? Well, the sell exceptionally well!

I buy the Dragon's Eye and craft nightmare tears, which sell for 325g each! I can usually sell all 5, so that is a total of 1625g for 5 minutes of work. The Northrend epic guys also sell well, about 300g each. I use honor to buy them from the vendor, which isn't very much.

The reasons they sell so well is there is almost no competition and the demand is still there for level 75-79 twinks.Moreover, there is no level restriction on these gems, whereas cata gems DO.


Here is the biggest benefit - mass prospecting. You will be able to prospect 5x faster than anyone else. This is extremely useful for when you have a ton of ore to get through. I will usually spam trade to buy bulk ore at a ridiculously low price. I tend to buy 100-200 stacks at a time. Once I have the ore, I divided it amongst my JCs and mass prospect. It saves a lot of time.

When I am finished prospecting, I will craft JC necklaces and rings from the useless green gems so I can disenchant them. For carnerlians, I buy heartblossom so I can transmute them into inferno rubies. For nightstones, zephyrites, and jaspers I save them so I can resale them on the AH for a inflated price when they are required that JC daily (always in stacks of 3).

42 alchemists
32 jcs
1 of every other profession

If i had to do it over again i'd do half the jcs and 1/2 tailors.

Sam... how do you get both to mill at once without using automation addons?

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Originally Posted by Shodokan

42 alchemists
32 jcs
1 of every other profession

If i had to do it over again i'd do half the jcs and 1/2 tailors.

Sam... how do you get both to mill at once without using automation addons?

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Probably the same way I prospect a ton of ore.

I make a macro for each ore or herb type. For example

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#showtooltip Twilight Jasmine
/cast Milling
/use Twilight Jasmine

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I then ensure the toon only have even stacks of 5 of each ore and herb, then place the macro on my DK spam bar.

So while I play my DKs, my scribe / prospector is working away :)

/cast Milling
/use goldclover
/use Terocone
/use earthroot
/use Felweed
/use Goldclover
/use Tiger Lily
/use Deadnettle
/use Ragveil
/use Liferoot
/use Kingsblood
/use Dreaming Glory
/use Lichbloom
/use Kingsblood
/use Icethorn

Easy enough. Just click 1 button and it mills out like 15 herbs if they're in the bag. The only thing that screw is up if you have for example a stack of 4 Goldclover left. Because it will begin at the top, it will error, because you need 5 herbs to mill.

As above (cept I only mill cata herbs now).

Only problem with more then two millers there isn't enough herbs in the AH for me to buy at a resonable cost lol ....

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

As above.

Only problem with more then two millers there isn't enough herbs in the AH for me to buy at a resonable cost lol ....

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Does anyone here use theunderminejournal.com?

If not, you should start!

It collects all the AH data from all realms to give you a wealth of statistical data.

You can also set market notifications to alert you whenever any item meets your price and/or quantity.

For example, lets saw I want to buy a rare JC recipe that normally sells for 6KG, but you will only buy it if it is under 3KG.

You can set a market notification to alert you when it is available at this price point. When you get an alert, you can use your mobile phone and the remote auction house to buy it instantly.

So far, I've used this to buy a TON of cheap ore, herbs, recipes, and various rare items.

I don't have a cell phone I have enough problems with people calling me all day long ....

I just log in 2-3 times a day and buy whats cheap.

Btw, you want one toon (druid, 70-85?) to be your herbalist. Levelling multiple alchys at the same time you WILL need your own herbalism.

My thing is I'll pay up to 3g per herb but higher than that and I hit the hills myself. You can quickly do almost any herb. Except goldthorn. Goldthorn if you do the optimal figure 8 through arathi and hinterlands you can still only get about 100 an hour. (all other herbs I can find at about triple that rate. FUCKING GOLDTHORN).

BTW silverpine or hillsbrad (I think hillsbrad) is really fantastic for briarthorn. Anything from outlands, northrend, or cata will eventually show up on the AH for the proper price if you're patient. I wasn't so I spent half an hour on icethorn as well as briarthorn, stranglekelp (DO NOT TRY TO DO THOUSAND NEEDLES FOR STRANGLEKELP, there are a ton of spawns but all deep underwater requiring a lot of swiming, north stranglethorn you can fly from node to node, ditto westfall ), and goldthorn.

With a few hours on my herby (which I don't mind) I've got my 5 most recent alchs at 425 (they are level 72) for just 5,274 gold. (it was actually 6461 but I've earned 1200 gold so far selling off extras).

I tend to just continously buy lelveling herbs for cheap and stockpile them. I try to keep at least enough to max out 4 toons at once. If you buy over several weeks at only low prices, alchemy is cheap and fast to level.

Goldthorn...though is a major pain. Never enough on AH and pain to farm.

I use theunderminejournal.com to notify me when any gets posted so I can buy it.

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Originally Posted by daanji

I tend to just continously buy lelveling herbs for cheap and stockpile them. I try to keep at least enough to max out 4 toons at once. If you buy over several weeks at only low prices, alchemy is cheap and fast to level.

Goldthorn...though is a major pain. Never enough on AH and pain to farm.

I use theunderminejournal.com to notify me when any gets posted so I can buy it.

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TUMJ is awesome

Alchemy.

Atleast 1 Enchanter per PvE team

Tailoring is nice for making cloth gear, lots of nice BoEs that can be made(the belt/pants)

I've never liked blacksmithing or leatherworking

and Inscription isn't bad, but in my opinion, one of the worst to level

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Originally Posted by isthisspam

Disregard everything everyone above me has said

Alchemy.

Atleast 1 Enchanter per PvE team

the rest whatever you want since they all give the same amount of raiding stats.

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Maybe read the topic first before you comment.

It's not about raiding stats. It's about profit/usefullness.

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Originally Posted by Littleburst

Maybe read the topic first before you comment.

It's not about raiding stats. It's about profit/usefullness.

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fixed for douchebaggery, i apologize

ok guys after reading all this my while having a major headache my head is exploding,

so i have 5 mages and i want good profit, what proffesions do i need on each

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Originally Posted by isthisspam

fixed for douchebaggery, i apologize

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thank you :)

nvm worked it out .

now that chaos orb are cheap I guess the dreamcloth cd is pointless - so the conclusion is still to have 1 of each profession and then the rest of the slots should all be 1/2 jc 1/2 alchemy ?
(except for the pain of leveling those...)

I've not done any alchemy since 4.1.

It took around an hour and twenty minutes a day, for my alchemy process.
This was buying Life, with one toon, who would also spam (once every 4-5 mins... buying Life in bulk).

Then mail the Life to one toon per team (same account, for instant mail).
Log that toon in, in Stormwind, empty the mail box.
Have the rest of the team summon them to the summoning stone on the floating platform for the instance in the Egypt zone.
Transmute Elements there always turns Life into Air.

The one toon would then hearth back to SW.
And mail the Air to the AH toon.

The AH toon would then periodically log in, and cancel auctions (with Auction Profit Master).
And then relist the auctions.
Singles were pointless on my realm, but having 10 stacks of 5's, 10's, 20's, 50's, 100's, 200's, 500's (all as the cheapest price) would sell quite a bit.

The inventory would always grow a little faster than the sales would sell.
After a while I would repost, and not bother cancelling.
I was still making a phenomenal amount of gold from that.

I spent around 200k, buying PvP crafted gear for a few teams, back when they were exceptionally expensive (early in the expansion), and in getting herbs to level the alchemy across all the teams.
I also spent around 200k, on Vial of the Sands x5.
I'm still sitting at 400K, across the various teams... and that is without having played a minute of 4.2, and doing nothing at all for gold since returning in 4.3.

Three months, of 80-100 minutes a day, easily made me in the neighborhood of 800K.
Purely from alchemy transmutes.