What are they other quad shamans reforging to? Mastery? Haste?
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What are they other quad shamans reforging to? Mastery? Haste?
Since Blizz is buffing ele shamans with some insane haste procs Id go for mastery.
im guessing elemental is still strong in bg's? as far as casters go?,
im also going to level a quad boomy team, should be fun
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Originally Posted by Nikita
Just for PvP though right? when flame shock gets dispelled?
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Originally Posted by death
I find them pretty weak. They just dont hit very hard.
This. Its probably my lack of understanding how to play ele shamans right but I have alot more fun playing 5x arcane mages then 5x ele shamans in pvp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks
Well you have to think of the utility that comes with...
DPS might be lower but durability is definitely higher with heals/totems.
I'd give up a little dps to be able to rez/heal anyday.
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Originally Posted by RSM72
I've never had a full mages team. Trying to level a team now but find mages are hella squishy without kiting. So 1 rogue jumps one of your mages with COS, he can probably drop the mage before you figure out which mage to iceblock. Say you kill the rogue after he kills 1 mage. then it becomes very annoying as 4 has to wait for 1 at the gy and once rezzed it has to come up by itself to regroup.
If you let an elemental cast, they can still hit like a truck. The thing is that you really need the 372 weapons & full gear, that makes such a massive different. And I'm specced into fulmination, definitely when boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks
I've tried everything in 4.0/4.1, and a full haste build is > full mastery. The paradox is that we both need haste AND mastery. The net gain from reforging into mastery is very low on current tier gear. On my main I run around with a full haste build, literally reforged everything I could into haste (even mastery) and I use Therallion's Mirror as my trinket. That's however a proc since there are no on use mastery trinkets available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
In 4.2 we gonna get the haste buff you refer to from dispelling flame shock. Now in general only decent players know their dispell button. In most situations it's just gonna be better to eat a lava burst than dispelling it and take a shitload of dmg from the 90% haste, cause 5 seconds later the shaman will reapply it and same choice should be made. My point being: I don't expect us to have the haste buff up a lot, unless we get CC'd immediately afterwards. That reasoning + my playing around on ptr makes me believe a haste build is still much betetr than a mastery build. However the good news is that there is a mastery on use trinket available now from quests. That could really make a difference for our on demand burst.
5 Enhancement shaman in BG's are very good.
If you can get your haste high enough you can do ridiculous amounts of dps while moving. If they dispell it ... it's like puke 7 lbs at them.
I've gone the noob way and haven't even bothered reforging my blue pvp set yet (the 346 one). But I still do decently in BGs. It takes more than just a couple of players to wipe me out. Next patch when I get full epics I'll consider reforging to either mastery or haste.
I'm also using the on use spell power trinket to combine with my instant lava burst. I always reserve it for people I want insta dead. I only do BGs and it doesn't take long to work out who are the skilled problem players on the opposing team.
Fulmination should be mandatory in pvp, and in 4.2 there will be no question about it. 4x 9 stack fulm can instant kill, add it into a lvb+cl+fulm and I can't see you failing to kill someone.
Just a thought, with the change to the pvp set bonus for us and lightning shield stacking to 9 way easier, it might even be a worthwhile strat to forge crit and play a surv game til you can unleash fulm9x4. Something to look at anyway.