This is my first week of running arena games with my enhancement shaman team. They are in full honor gear with the epic off hand in most of the video. I added the main hand later on in the video. It's pretty frustrating, but I had better success than I anticipated. I ended the day with slightly more losses than wins which was pretty good for the week. If I can average 50-50 win loss on this team I will be happy. By no means am I uber at arena. There are a lot of things that can be improved. Enjoy the video.
05-12-2011, 03:55 PM
Littleburst
Damn insane survivablity. Amazing that you last that long in some matches and actually manage to kill them.
Small tip: changing targets if FTW. I know some spells needs stacking for optimal damage, but especially vs druid healers it should make getting a kill easier.
Really well done and +100 for the first enhancement shaman arena video!
05-12-2011, 04:14 PM
Kicksome
You know, people have been playing shamans almost since day one of Multiboxing in WoW. Almost always doing ele spec. It's pretty amazing that you're the first one to actually post some success in arena with Enhancement. Keep the videos coming!
05-12-2011, 04:23 PM
Twyman
Wow, I am pleasantly surprised to see how well (great control) that team is working out. I always thought that would be a fail team, due to its weakness to roots. I am also amazed to see how much healing they do too. One tip though, that first druid you tired to kill but had to switch because he was getting crazy heals. I didn’t see you using purge on him, it works very well against resto druids. Oh, and that other 1 pally, 4 DKs boxer. I wouldn’t go after the pally first unless you think you can burst him down inside 1 GCD.
I am also amazed to see how few buttons you use. I have almost every button/hotkey filled up. LOL
Great video, its nice to see video's that show the pains of gearing/learning and not just the flawless parts.
05-12-2011, 04:43 PM
pinotnoir
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twyman
Wow, I am pleasantly surprised to see how well (great control) that team is working out. I always thought that would be a fail team, due to its weakness to roots. I am also amazed to see how much healing they do too. One tip though, that first druid you tired to kill but had to switch because he was getting crazy heals. I didn’t see you using purge on him, it works very well against resto druids. Oh, and that other 1 pally, 4 DKs boxer. I wouldn’t go after the pally first unless you think you can burst him down inside 1 GCD.
I am also amazed to see how few buttons you use. I have almost every button/hotkey filled up. LOL
Great video, its nice to see video's that show the pains of gearing/learning and not just the flawless parts.
I have purge in my cast sequence on all the shamans. Someone is casting it throughout the fight. I may use a dedicated button in addition for those damn druids. That dk boxer was our favorite helper here on the forums. There is much I can change to improve. Overall its really fun to play. Much more fun than 5 elementals IMO.
05-12-2011, 06:25 PM
Emo?
I dont understand why people have IWT on their main still, isnt that like really messy to control if u whant to be able to se how the fights going etc? Cant immagine it on high rating so to speak.
05-12-2011, 06:56 PM
Redbeard
Well you beat me to the punch, I have been wanting to do 5 enhance but in pve not pvp... will likely fail horribly and ill throw a tank in there.
Good job though, nice to see different comps.
05-12-2011, 07:06 PM
Ualaa
Thank you for posting the video, it is always fun to watch other boxers, especially non-standard comps.
And my Gnomettes insist they deserve lots of cookies... now that they're YouTube stars.
I definitely felt the pressure of your team.
With two shammies dead, after my bubble expired my Pally could not out-heal your DPS.
The other game between us was a little closer than the one in your video.
It is worth noting, my team has six or seven weeks of arena gear vs your enhance Shammies having just the off-handers.
With equal gear, it would be closer still.
Especially with the Conquest main-hand weapon, as getting Conquest 2-Handers was a major jump for the DK's.
Your team definitely has potential to grow, both as your gear increases and as you refine your hotkeys/macros and gain experience with them.
05-12-2011, 07:12 PM
pinotnoir
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ualaa
Thank you for posting the video, it is always fun to watch other boxers, especially non-standard comps.
And my Gnomettes insist they deserve lots of cookies... now that they're YouTube stars.
I definitely felt the pressure of your team.
With two shammies dead, after my bubble expired my Pally could not out-heal your DPS.
The other game between us was a little closer than the one in your video.
It is worth noting, my team has six or seven weeks of arena gear vs your enhance Shammies having just the off-handers.
With equal gear, it would be closer still.
Especially with the Conquest main-hand weapon, as getting Conquest 2-Handers was a major jump for the DK's.
Your team definitely has potential to grow, both as your gear increases and as you refine your hotkeys/macros and gain experience with them.
Next time I will focus your dps instead of the pally. As for the IWT main. I like guided missiles so I can focus my attention on spamming my keyboard. When I disable IWT on the main he loses out on dps because I am busy spamming. The auto guided missile targeting works best for me. If they have to move I control them manually. We already have to many things to worry about in pvp.
05-12-2011, 10:01 PM
Multibocks
I see lots of survivability, but not too much burst. Not saying it's a bad thing.. just thought Enh put out more than that.
edit: Also change your tab to target only players so you dont accidentally get pets etc.
05-13-2011, 07:00 AM
Ztar
-In regards to healing, do the shamans, when you click for heals, all cast GHW or is it some sort of round robin?
- Do use other healing spells belong side GHW like Chain Heals?
-How fast do build up a MW stack of 5 allowing instant heals?
-Do you spend alot of time with the 5 stacks of MW just waiting to heal later or do you use it for other casts as well?
Currently thinking about resp. my shamans to Enh, along with my Dk, but cant make up my mind as to i should keep one resto or just as you MWx5 heal.
Have given any thought to utilising HEX more? like maybe using MW for that from time to time of you find that you have MW procs to spare....
As with the previous videos posted, nice work... 5+
//Ztar
05-13-2011, 02:36 PM
Ualaa
You could use things like:
On A:
/cast [target=arena1] Hex
On B:
/cast [target=arena2] Hex
On C:
/cast [target=arena3] Hex
That kind of an approach.
It might force a trinket use.
I'd also think about a Wind Shear (round-robin)... exactly like the DK Mind Freeze (round-robin), probably at a Focus target...
Probably the (or one of the) healers.
If you're going at an annoying caster like a Frost Mage, you can change focus easily enough.
05-13-2011, 04:42 PM
pinotnoir
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ztar
-In regards to healing, do the shamans, when you click for heals, all cast GHW or is it some sort of round robin?
- Do use other healing spells belong side GHW like Chain Heals?
-How fast do build up a MW stack of 5 allowing instant heals?
-Do you spend alot of time with the 5 stacks of MW just waiting to heal later or do you use it for other casts as well?
Currently thinking about resp. my shamans to Enh, along with my Dk, but cant make up my mind as to i should keep one resto or just as you MWx5 heal.
Have given any thought to utilising HEX more? like maybe using MW for that from time to time of you find that you have MW procs to spare....
As with the previous videos posted, nice work... 5+
//Ztar
If the shamans have 5 stacks they heal if I try to heal. I also use a macro that targets all arena targets and uses hex. The stacks build up quick. I like 5 enhance for more dps. I also have wind shear on a constant round robin.
05-19-2011, 02:49 PM
blast3r
I was giggling almost uncontrollably when watching this video! Pinot talked me into spec'ng ehancement (have 10 shamans). Got 5 spec'd with crafted pvp gear over the last several days. Look forward to getting the rest of them done.
btw, anyone willing to share their enhancement macros? :)
Awesome video, btw!
05-20-2011, 05:36 PM
Kang
when i watch this i am reminded of pirhanna's swarming on a kill :D
Keep up the good work pinot!
06-25-2011, 11:08 PM
Mercbeast
This is an awesome comp. How is the success with it coming?
06-26-2011, 12:39 AM
Multibocks
Pinot is busy with his 5 warrior team leveling right now ;)
06-26-2011, 01:03 AM
Akoko
The health on your shamans is barely going down at all in some of those matches!
06-26-2011, 02:24 PM
pinotnoir
They are on the back burner. The comp is not that good in Arena because we cannot take full advantage of the DPS. In bg's they are tons of fun. I just hate arena now that they changed the points. I am working on some warriors right now. That way I have 3 melee pvp teams.
06-26-2011, 05:13 PM
remanz
Nice stuff I really like it.
With wolves up, they are unkillable, ain't they. I'd imagine frost mage is a bit of pain cuz the nova and the ring of frost BS. Enhance is getting a buff as well in 4.2. Should be nice to see where this team can go
06-26-2011, 05:49 PM
Mercbeast
Throw a DK into the mix with 4 Enhance Shamans. HB will keep pretty much everyone perma snared allowing you to keep on target. Grip will also help you pull targets in for quicker DPS on target.
With the buffs to Enhance, some pretty significant boosts to damage it looks like to me, this team could be functional in 4.2
06-27-2011, 04:13 AM
Ztar
I do run 4 enh + 1 dk in arena and with only weapons + one other arena gear i'm at a 40% win ratio. Not extremely good, but not so bad either.
I made isboxer click thingys above me grid to help with MW5 Healing.
Clicking one of them set the step of en mapped key to heal the one just cklicked as part of the shamans normal Isboxer spam.
Clicking another one will deselect the current and change the step of the mapped key to heal the new target.
Clicking the one that is already selected will disable automated MW5 Healing.
I also have a key from the default spam that tries to Hex Arena1-4 from shamman 1 to 4 when possible (i.e hex is off cooldown, MW5 is up or i'm standing still)
// Ztar
By the way besides stacking up Honor for 4.2, i,ve also stacked up full justice point. And was thinking of converting to honor when 4.2 hits. Just to boost the amount of gear i can get at launch. Anybody else do that?
07-07-2011, 11:26 PM
daanji
Is anyone boxing Enhancement shamans in arena this season?
If so, I want to hear about your success!
I've been thinking about giving it a try.
07-08-2011, 12:23 AM
ZooljinX
the guy getting focused must really be like "Ohhh shiit" with all that windfury and wolves ;) good movie, i really enjoyed it! and nice fight with Ualaas gnomes there!
07-12-2011, 08:26 AM
Ztar
Quote:
Originally Posted by daanji
Is anyone boxing Enhancement shamans in arena this season?
If so, I want to hear about your success!
I've been thinking about giving it a try.
I did a 8-2 with 4 enh shammans and a DK. Then i hit a wall and ended up 9-8
Still have 3-4 pieces of bloodthirsty so not so bad for being me :P
//Ztar
07-13-2011, 03:45 PM
remanz
Don't really see enhance has the staying power vs casters.
No root breaker, if rooted, the dps reduces to virtually none. You can only purge or shock. No gap closer, you can root them with frost shock, but still have to walk to them. DK's DG has a long CD. At blade edge, if you let them jump onto one of those poles, you can forget it.
Defense wise, once wolf/shamanistic rage wear off. The shaman is pretty much done for. So either you kill them with wolf up, or just straight up loss. If that team let you get the 2nd round of wolves, then they are not that good.
07-14-2011, 02:45 PM
Mercbeast
Quote:
Originally Posted by remanz
Don't really see enhance has the staying power vs casters.
No root breaker, if rooted, the dps reduces to virtually none. You can only purge or shock. No gap closer, you can root them with frost shock, but still have to walk to them. DK's DG has a long CD. At blade edge, if you let them jump onto one of those poles, you can forget it.
Defense wise, once wolf/shamanistic rage wear off. The shaman is pretty much done for. So either you kill them with wolf up, or just straight up loss. If that team let you get the 2nd round of wolves, then they are not that good.
Unleash frost + DK frost snares = 70% snare which will allow you to get on target much easier. I don't think mages are any more of a problem for this team than they are for any other melee team. A good mage means a loss for you pretty much no matter what.
07-14-2011, 06:44 PM
Multibocks
Priest healer is awesome for mass dispels, but yeah I hate mages.
08-24-2011, 05:14 PM
Feider
My DKs are tons of fun and I was considering 4 enhance for my next pvp team? (I would do 4 and leave a spot for a buddy to sinlge heal in 5s)
Does anyone have an update on their enhance pvp experiences? I'd love to hear it before I commit. Cheers
08-27-2011, 01:30 AM
pinotnoir
Enhance is fun. It will never be like the Dk's. If you are looking for a change of pace give it a try. I can win games with my 5 enhance in arena. If you are planning on high ratings with them think again. They are great in the bg's, tol, and will earn you points in arena each week once you gear up.
08-27-2011, 03:49 AM
David
So it shouldn`t be to much of a pain to spec my 3shamans enchancement and druid feral and then heal with a holy pala?
I`m focussing on bg`s mainly then.
If 5 enhance work I assume a healed 3enhance+feral druid would as well.