Instance - The Black Morass - Anyone multiboxed?

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has sucessfully multiboxed BM? And if so, what tactics were used?

Cheers,

Stealthy

BM was insanely difficult when I first hit 70 on my Shamans, it's a good gear check for us and you'll need some nice blues and overall good sustainability of mana before tackling the entire instance.

I was able to multibox this at 70. It was hard, but being a prot pally helps.

As a prot pally + 3 ele shammies + resto shammy...

Run to portal. Consecrate on boss/portal. Tank ALL of the adds. You should not take much damage from this (use grounding totem on caster adds, shield blocks should handle the rest)
Shamans should chain lightning every cooldown. Try to down any remaining adds RIGHT when the boss dies, maximizing the time you have to drink.
If a portal is open, you MUST run to it BEFORE any adds come out. If adds are out when you're coming to a portal, grab them with the pally and drag them to the boss. You do not have time to waste running around with the beacon to Medivh.
Mana pots are your friend. Bless wis on your healer, salv on your dps. Water shield MUST stay up.

If you do this right, Medivh will have at least 50% or more (ideally 100%) of his shield at the last boss. Let Medivh "tank" the boss while you drink -- his shield will hold. Tank the boss, heroism, keep heals up on your tank. The tank MUST be topped off in preparation for time stops.

The most important thing is to time the portals. Your pally can tank adds all day, but if the boss dies and the adds aren't dead, you need to fight the adds before you can drink and move on to the next portal. Skip drinking if you have to. Your pally is an aoe tanking monster. It can take a TON of adds. Magma totem if there get to be too many.

Hmm, I see that you run a 4x Warlock 1x Priest group, Stealthy. Can these guys handle tanking the bosses ? Seems like it would be pretty hard even with good gear.

If you have a macro with NS/EM/Trinkets/etc in it, then I would suggest using the "/click" command.

The button ids are below where X is the index:
ActionBarButtonX
MultiBarBottomLeftButtonX
MultiBarBottomRightButtonX
MultiBarLeftButtonX
MultiBarRightButtonX

ex: ("01-bar1" is my damage macro, "power" is my trinket macro that is on the bar above the normal action bar, button index 5.)

MACRO 16777217 "01-bar1" INV_Misc_QuestionMark
/cast [modifier:ctrl,target=tetria] Lesser Healing Wave(Rank 5); [modifier:alt,target=tetria] Chain Heal
/stopmacro [modifier]
/assist focus:/assist focus:/assist focus:/assist focus
/click MultiBarBottomLeftButton5
/cast Chain Lightning
END

MACRO 18454950 "power" Ability_Druid_FerociousBite
/cast Nature's Swiftness
/cast Elemental Mastery
/cast [nomodifier:ctrl] Blood Fury
/use 13
/use 14
END

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=33267#pos t33267

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Shamans should chain lightning every cooldown. Try to down any remaining adds RIGHT when the boss dies, maximizing the time you have to drink.

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To add to what Vyndree stated here, I wrote this macro for when I'm instancing with the Shaman:

/castsequence [target=focustarget] lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning

I tired just two bolts, but I found I wsa occasionally waiting on the global cooldown, so I bumped it to three. This upped my group DPS considerably, as I was able to focus on healing more, and just let the chain lightnings go off whenever. I have used this in all instances without issue; it works very well. I'm going to work in trinkets as well, so they just pop whenever they're up. Might even add Elemental Mastery into the mix as well, so I can just hit one button instead of two or three. I've got a seperate button for just lightning bolts incase I don't want to AOE for whatever reason.

I wasn't able to pull off the last boss of BM. Two attempts, and failed both. Close though... like 10% on the first attempt. We'll get him next time.

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Your cast sequence should use your cooldown spellsfirst, then use non-cooldown.



For a Shaman, I'd do

/castsequence [reset=8] Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt(do a few more... it'll never it itthough)





This way, you use a cooldown spell, followed by a GCD cooldown spell repeatedly... when 8 seconds hits, it'll reset, and you'll go back to the beginning, so... if Chain Lightning had a longer cooldown(8 is actually too long now that I think of it) you can adjust the reset of the cast sequence so as soon as the cooldown is up, the cast sequence would reset, and BAM you're using your highest DPS spell as soon as it's up.

I found BM to be trivial even without using any devices. Group makeup is tankadin, holydin, 3xmage. Tankadin makes holding aoe agro simple. Mages burn down the rift lords. Holydin keeps the tank alive. The first two bosses are simple tank and spank. The third boss is also simple tank and spank just point him away from group.

The hardest mobs are the caster rift lords/keepers. The ice one likes to cast pyroblast at mages so make sure to keep them topped off. There is another one that fears and casts aoe bolt volley.

Keep the party alive in between bosses and do not get behind (drink to full after every keeper/lord you have the time). The most difficult part of the instance is the "combat bug" where you remain in combat and cannot drink after combat ends for 10-20 seconds. In that case I use the device to clean up near the Khadagar and head straight for new portal.

Ziran

I did this with a war, 3 mages and a priest. I had a bit easier time then velani, but still it is quite tough.

Basic strat is what I showed velani:

By the time you see the portal guard yell something "TIME WILL END BLAH BLAH" you have about 15 secs to run over, pickup the add that spawned and tank him.

With mages, I would dps down the boss hard, while thunderclapping hte adds. When whelps spawn, aoe everything till the welps die. Then when the portal guard is like 10%, aoe everything down. If you do it right, adds and guard die at the same time. Drink, and rinse repeat.

For first boss, just dps him down and kill the adds same way as a guard.

For second boss, LET ALL THE ADDS through, and kill him ASAP. Purge /Dispell the boss when it gets the haste buff (this will make it so your tank won't get overwhelmed by debuffs).

Last boss is cake, just keep your tank topped off, the boss faced away from the dps /healer, and have the dps/healer out of melee range.

You can bubble off the debuff on the 2nd boss, you need a bit of a threat lead which should be NP as a Paladin and then just cancel the bubble right after you cast it to get aggro back. I am not sure if BoP gets it off or not, I think not.

Another trick to getting rid of the debuff is waiting for a knockback then popping a run speed potion and kiting, but make sure you have his haste dispelled 1st else he catches you really fast. And, don't run too far from the portal or he'll reset. Best to pull him a bit away from the portal and have him knock you back towards it, then you can run the opposite way and get some distance.

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Originally Posted by 'Stabface',index.php?page=Thread&postID=33261#post 33261

Hmm, I see that you run a 4x Warlock 1x Priest group, Stealthy. Can these guys handle tanking the bosses ? Seems like it would be pretty hard even with good gear.

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I'm currently running a 5 shammy group @ lvl 57 (Outlands tonight yeah baby!). Will be attempting with them... :)

Cheers,

Stealthy

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=33401#pos t33401

One problem. Opening with chain lightning, especially if it crits, WILL pull aggro. I've done hours of testing with this. If I just focus fire a target down (3x Lightning BoltsBs), the other mobs will keep beating on the tank. If I open with a chan lightning, I'll get at least one add on my shaman. This forces my tank to blow his taunt (15 sec cooldown!). Starting a little slower then ramping up is MUCH better than starting big and winding down... A lot of this came about from Botanica. Those "Stewards" mobs that can melee AoE your entire group down instantly if one gets away from the tank....

We also chain pull almost every instance (except Arcatraz... I hate that place!). Near-zero downtime. Maybe you work things differently in your group, but this is what works great for us. :)

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Hey Fur, are you running with one of your shammies as the designated tank? Do you gear / spec him differently than the other 4? I've only done instances up to ZF so far and never bothered with it, just let the agro bounce around, healing where needed.

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Originally Posted by 'arres',index.php?page=Thread&postID=33378#post333 78

For a Shaman, I'd do

/castsequence [reset=8] Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt(do a few more... it'll never it itthough)

This way, you use a cooldown spell, followed by a GCD cooldown spell repeatedly... when 8 seconds hits, it'll reset, and you'll go back to the beginning, so... if Chain Lightning had a longer cooldown(8 is actually too long now that I think of it) you can adjust the reset of the cast sequence so as soon as the cooldown is up, the cast sequence would reset, and BAM you're using your highest DPS spell as soon as it's up.

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This is not accurate. Each time you press a button that 8 second timer resets.

So if you cast chain lightning using that macro, wait 5 seconds, lightning bolt, wait 5 seconds (10 seconds has gone by and Chain is off cooldown...) and hit it again, you'll not cast Chain Lightning.

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Originally Posted by 'zanthor',index.php?page=Thread&postID=33646#post3 3646

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Originally Posted by 'arres',index.php?page=Thread&postID=33378#post333 78

For a Shaman, I'd do

/castsequence [reset=8] Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt(do a few more... it'll never it itthough)

This way, you use a cooldown spell, followed by a GCD cooldown spell repeatedly... when 8 seconds hits, it'll reset, and you'll go back to the beginning, so... if Chain Lightning had a longer cooldown(8 is actually too long now that I think of it) you can adjust the reset of the cast sequence so as soon as the cooldown is up, the cast sequence would reset, and BAM you're using your highest DPS spell as soon as it's up.

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This is not accurate. Each time you press a button that 8 second timer resets.

So if you cast chain lightning using that macro, wait 5 seconds, lightning bolt, wait 5 seconds (10 seconds has gone by and Chain is off cooldown...) and hit it again, you'll not cast Chain Lightning.

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o rly? Well that explains some of the problems I've been having. :)

I run 5 shammies and it took 3 tries to get this event down, the first time I didn't clear the trash... stupid move, the 2nd time I made it toAeonus but I accidentally used my earth elemental totems a few mins prior when I accidentally hit the wrong hotkey... very stupid move.

For tactics, I dropped a fire elemental totem at the portal on waves 13-17 when I needed to rest up. I found them a lot tougher than using the Chrono-beacon and I think they last longer??

on wave 17 I did a totematic recall and moved out of range before the last mob died, the 2nd time I accidentally had a few around the portal and agroed the boss imediatly. I let Aeonus let hit Medivh for a while so I could get all of my cooldowns up. popped my earth elemental totems and let them grab agro for a few seconds and wailed away, it's been a few weeks but I rememeber each time he stopped time one of my char's resisted it. According to wowwiki you can use pvp trinkets to break the stun too

My girls are geared the same, but my main casts lesser healing wave on my target's target instead of lighting when I press my hotkey, this is only used in boss fights or in heroics against mobs that can 2 shot them.

I gotta give props to people who have managed to 5-box Black Morass. I tried a few times and just got spanked. I even pulled in a friend who has a Kara geared pally and use him in place of my feral druid and we did better, but couldn't get past the 2nd boss. I think it is possible, but I'm just not quick enough with reactions and popping potions, etc. This place is quite a bit harder to box than Shadow Lab, IMHO. The biggest problem I had was keeping up with healing everyone from the mobs that do AE damage.

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=34835#pos t34835

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Originally Posted by 'Bollwerk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=34833#post 34833

I gotta give props to people who have managed to 5-box Black Morass. I tried a few times and just got spanked. I even pulled in a friend who has a Kara geared pally and use him in place of my feral druid and we did better, but couldn't get past the 2nd boss. I think it is possible, but I'm just not quick enough with reactions and popping potions, etc. This place is quite a bit harder to box than Shadow Lab, IMHO.

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Spec one of your shaman resto. Earth shield makes a big difference. And you're useing purge to get the haste buff off the 2nd boss right?

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I did respec one shaman to resto, but I only have elemental gear, so the healing wasn't spectacular. I was running OOM alot. I was purging the haste buff, but couldn't keep up with everything going on at once. I think my reactions are just too slow sometimes. =/

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Originally Posted by 'Bollwerk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=34833#post 34833

I gotta give props to people who have managed to 5-box Black Morass. I tried a few times and just got spanked. I even pulled in a friend who has a Kara geared pally and use him in place of my feral druid and we did better, but couldn't get past the 2nd boss. I think it is possible, but I'm just not quick enough with reactions and popping potions, etc. This place is quite a bit harder to box than Shadow Lab, IMHO. The biggest problem I had was keeping up with healing everyone from the mobs that do AE damage.

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My god. Trade you black morass for shadow labs anytime. BM is trivial to me. I have yet to beat the inciter. The things that make you good at BM (high DPS) is what makes you suck at inciter. My mages usually do not survive the first charm which is a problem. I am focusing on gearing them up with emphasis on survivability and will come back once I beefed them up a bit. The rest of stuff up to inciter is trivial but he is major suck for paly tank and high dps group.

Ziran

Yeah, the Inciter was rough, but once I bought a 2nd set of Elder/Eagle/Stamina gear, I had a much easier time killing him. Everything else in the instance was trivial.

Are we talking heroic BM?

Normal BM.

I started farming BM and Mech today and found the following macro..but...

I started using this macro "/castsequence [target=focustarget] lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning" i added my trinks to it..i always forget to use them if they are not in a macro hehe. I added a reset to it but cant seem to add Elemental Mastery to it or it breaks. can someone with better macro writing skills post a script using the above casting rotation macro but include a working copy of adding EM to it ? I mean i don't forget to use EM as much. but IMO its better to waste it every now and then..than to not use it at all.

NM on the above post.. i got this macro working great!

#showtooltip Lightning Bolt
/use Vengeance of the Illidari
/use Ancient Draenei Arcane Relic
/cast Elemental Mastery
/castsequence [target=focustarget] [reset=6] lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning