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Jahwi definitely puts up a compelling debate, doesn't he? "I think it should be illegal, so it needs to be."
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I plan to comment on the off forums. It may read something like this.
Stop. Reverse it. Flip it. Replay.
"So now the game is about how many friends you have following you around killing stuff for you, without having to worry about knowing your class, so you can compete with players from the opposite faction just to take an example.
I think MMORPG-ing should be illegal. The game should be about how much I can get for myself.
10 mins ago, I was killed by 5 characters.
They all ganged up on me 1v5 and there was a healer there too. I didnt have a chance.... :/
with my magic ball, I can see its all done by 5 different people.
Not very World of Warcraft spirit'ish imo.
My word is:
I should be able to kill 5 characters, regardless of skill, and because Im complaining about it, regardless if 5 people combined in, throw more money blizzards way."
I'm tellin my mommy!
Think this will get deleted?
LOL!
Dam, that blue hit the nail on the head.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1535574817?page=3#43
If I replied, it would also look something like "I want to be able to go 1v5 and win too please biz. Fix. K thanks."
Yeah, it'd probably get deleted but damn, they should just have a "post-mirroring logic" function that would do this to every one of their posts. Really shows how retarded their arguments are.
[edit] WAIT! I have it!
If you preface that retort by something like "OK, I'd like to give you an example of how silly your post sounds from a logical point of view:" and then paste in your stuff. That probably wouldn't get nuked. :D
I read several of the posts following that GM's.
Really, their skewed logic and perception of reality might seem stupid, but someone unfamiliar with what Multiboxing really is might actually start to side with them.
I'm not worried about Blizzard following this path, but new developers and GMs of upcoming games (Rift) may be swayed by these anti-multiboxing mentalities.
I would just not feed the trolls. Anti-Multiboxing threads seldom start with any logic or concrete information, usually consisting of whining about how they got killed, but after the haters have been prodded enough times, they start to sound more influencing with their propaganda.
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Originally Posted by Lokked
we shell see am sure it be ok, maybe
Rofl
That name looks so familiar. I think he died what was it 12 times in that single WSG :D:D:D
LOL someone even linked my malygos video :P
Seem Its all QQ about them getting Killed By Deathknights? funny that,
I actually think this is the guy I killed today.
I run a disc priest and four frost Dks and I got my first ever kill in netherstorm, on the day that he made the post.
Not only that the guy came on an alliance alt and started to tell me his mind. =P He wasn't happy and then apparantly reported me.
GZ on your kill :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pearldrake999
oh y and the Gm told him to go QQ on the foums i bet noone would QQ if they used RealNames like they was going to,
The forums would be about as populous as the Sahara Desert. XD I am pretty positive it is the guy I killed, his character is also on the same server. Defias Brotherhood EU.
It is not like I camped him either.
I killed him ONCE. And mainly so I could get the achive XD
What i really have a hard time to understand is how people compare multiboxing to botting and automation?
If i bot i can go away for unlimited time and my character/s will keep playing. Hell i can take that 3 week vacation at Bahamas and they still go.
If i multibox, there is NO WAY in hell that i can even leave for 1 second because then my character/s won't do a damn thing, aka it requires me to actually PUSH the keys.
How is that automation in any way and furthermor, how can people compare that to botting?
Because people like to open their mouths without knowing what the hell they're on about.
Cannot post to the thread, as it is EU and my games are all US accounts.
Wanted to mention something about how I'd rather my politicians deal with more important issues than making laws in relation to a video game; original poster wanted it to be illegal to multibox, which of course implies a state/federal law and not whether a gaming company lets you play multiple accounts or not.
Can post that for u if you want that ualaa. Either post it here or send me a pm containing the statement.
Looks like his main complaint is "someone ganked me, Blizzard fix world PVP." He may think he made a post about multiboxing, but his real gripe is that he got ganked. He's the same type of person who screeches when his level 30 warrior gets griefed by a bored level 85. Blizzard's reply to that problem, even today, is basically "suck it up and/or find people to help, we're not changing the rules."
Look at his second post:
He quoted it later for emphasis. He gets really upset at people telling him "you got ganked, deal with it." Once people are on to him, he insists that it's not about being ganked, but his early posts make it pretty clear that he's pissed about the gank more than anything.Quote:
"Look at me i used all my monthly pay to buy 5 accounts, so now i never die in world pvp"
Congrats
None of the arguments are anything new. If I had access to the EU forums I'd be poking him with a pretty sharp stick for as long as I could get away with it.
Edit to add: this link to a blue post needs to be added to the list of links given to people who complain that "it's one person, not five people." The blue gives a pretty clear statement of where Blizzard stands on the issue:
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The thing is, you cannot see this as 1 person, you have to see this as 5 characters. Regardless of who is controlling them or how they are being controlled, it is still 5 characters. The same 5 characters you may meet at any time, in any place in the World of Warcraft. Maybe those 5 characters are being controlled by one person, or three people, or five people. It's still the same 5 characters with their same strengths and weaknesses, same spell combinations and talents. If you met 5 Death Knights in a Battleground on your own, I'm afraid that you won't last very long (unless you are one thousand three hundred and thirty seven). If you met 5 Death Knights in a Battleground with 4 other characters, then it's going to be an interesting fight!
The emphasis is on the characters battling against these 5 to find a way to bring them down.
The fact that they are allegedly being controlled by 1 single human being is irrelevant when playing in a game like this as they gain no advantage at all over other characters, if anything they are at a slight disadvantage. As one person mentioned in this thread already, if we took action on multi-boxers then we would have to take action on all coordinated groups of players because they have an unfair advantage over the smaller (perhaps uncoordinated) groups of players they meet in their travels.
My response to these idiots is always the same: "Butthurt gamer is butthurt."
That is all.
It is pretty odd seeing the contortions people go through to try and tell the people responsible for interpreting and enforcing the TOS that they are wrong. My niece used to try and do the same thing with me when I babysat her and would put her to bed - she'd come up with any possible reason to stay up. It's something kids do, no biggie.
What I have noticed is that lately I'm getting a LOT of questions from people about how to box - or how I box - I don't know if it's because they genuinely want to know, or they want to figure out the weaknesses or what - but I point em to this site and my blog, and they generally are pretty friendly... Just a few people getting butthurt in PvP I guess.
PVP creates 99% of the forum anger. Hell, PVP griefing of some sort or another probably accounts for better than 50% of the anger directed at Blizzard.
The people who try to "educate" Blizzard on its own rules are both very funny and the most frustrating, because they are usually the kind that absolutely refuse to accept logic. Since they are starting from a point of "I decide how the world works, not you," they are immune to pretty much anything that requires people to think and use a bit of intelligence. It's botting because they said so. No one can tell them that it isn't automation. Blizzard doesn't read its own TOS, so if I read it to them they'll realize I'm right. So on and so forth. They are the most thick-headed of the bunch, and pretty proud of it. They're the ones who say things like "I don't care what Blizzard says, it's cheating!" As if we're supposed to take the word of some random dickhead who who woke up with a god complex
The only thing to do with someone like that is to ignore him. Or for fun, provoke him until you get tired.
A new thread on the US forum. The OP took a relatively benign approach and so the thread isn't a flame fest, although there are already three or four "LOL DEY GETS MORE MONEY" posts (including the old reliable "I don't care what anyone says, this is the truth of the matter"). Since the OP was trying to get a straight answer (or at least acting like it) I gave him one. And took a mild dig at the "NO BLIZZARD ARE WRONG" people before they even got started, in the hopes that it pisses off a few of them.
Good lord some people need to learn how to use google. Its the same dam thread over and over and over again. And the OP always starts with "I know this has been talked about before" or "I know that blizzard allows multiboxing, but..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonuss
The more qq threads, the more people 'll become aware that it's legal and the more 'official' responses can be use as proof to educate even more people.