Introduction and Vista Question

Hi all, I'm a newbie to the forums, but thought I'd say hi and ask a few questions. I'm currently looking into setting up a 4 shaman team (Yeah I know it's been done before, but denying the synergy of the shaman class would be pointless)

I'm looking to run the 4 accounts using two computers and Keyclone. I have an IBM t30 laptop with a 17" CRT screen on the one side, and a Athlon x2 6000 with 3 gigs of ram and a video card from the stone age and a 21" LCD(Currently the integrated card, I think it's an ATI 1650 or something) The laptop is old, but it runs two copies of WoW like a champ at very low rez with all effects turned off. Once I get a new vid card with multiple monitor connections(8600GT on its way) I plan to move the CRT to the main unit and crop the t30 down to one copy of WoW.

Here's the situation: My main unit currently has Vista 64 bit Ultimate, but I've been unsatisfied with it's performance. The t30 actually loads WoW faster (with identical addons on both units) Does Vista provide anything groundbreaking that should make me want to stick with it rather than going down to XP Pro 64 bit?

Anyone? I've been reading forum posts all day, and found a few with debates on this topic, but nothing definitive.

So, if all you care about is speed, XP's going to be your bet, at least for now. Vista's a mixed bag -- I like the better security and admin control, but it's inconvenient for a lot of people. It's also going to be your bet for DX10 for now, since MS seems unlikely to try a modification to XP to allow for the DX10 driver model. Also, you're going to have some driver problems on Vista still, at least until people convert to it, but that's true of 64-bit as well. Really, though, this hasn't hit me much.

Personally, I like Vista on the machines that have it, but I have no desire to convert the machines that don't. Some people run WoW on Linux.

For a machine that mainly runs WoW and does a few other tasks like email/web browsing/etc., there's no real point to going with Vista. XP does that just fine and doesn't incur the overhead that Vista has. Vista SP1 should be out soon, which will help, but there are still enough compatibility issues with it that I'm only using it for games that need/look great on DX10 graphics.

Ughmahedhurtz, your avatar is hilarious.

Your not ever going to have problems with those 2 machines. I tried an experiment with 2 and 3 clients running at separate times. No problems running 2 thru a major town(lag). 3 man...little bit of lag. Your talking about 2 on each machine. You shouldnt have any problems IMO. My main runs 3 and the lesser machine runs the 2. If you have dual core then you can make it even better by putting one on CPU 0 and the other on CPU 1 with Keyclone.

Update:

Still using the same main PC, but I've split up my 4 followers among 2 laptops. A Lenovo t30 and a Lenovo t60. They both run two Shamans with no lag anywhere, and I get the luxury of my main screen being big and easy to play on.

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Originally Posted by 'Tehtsuo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=32535#post3 2535

Update:

Still using the same main PC, but I've split up my 4 followers among 2 laptops. A Lenovo t30 and a Lenovo t60. They both run two Shamans with no lag anywhere, and I get the luxury of my main screen being big and easy to play on.

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Seems like it is working out for you. Grats.

BTW Welcome to the Forums and Dual-Boxing :)

Same here....main is on M1730 laptop with a 26" LCD HD tv screen...2 accts are on that

2 accts on E1505 Dell laptop with no additional screen for that but thinking about adding one to it. Most likely a 19" LCD. Which means I can then have one account per screen on the 2nd laptop.

The 26" LCD is large enough to make reading anything I need to on those 2 accounts.

M1730 17" - WOW1
26" - WOW2;WOW3

E1505 15" - WOW4;WOW5(future expansion to 19" LCD)

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Originally Posted by 'Tehtsuo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=32535#post3 2535

Update:

Still using the same main PC, but I've split up my 4 followers among 2 laptops. A Lenovo t30 and a Lenovo t60. They both run two Shamans with no lag anywhere, and I get the luxury of my main screen being big and easy to play on.

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Seems like it is working out for you. Grats.

BTW Welcome to the Forums and Dual-Boxing :)

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Thanks man.

I like vista because, while maybe its just me, but if I try to put a WoW screen on the secondary monitor in XP, it basiclly lags EVERYTHING out very badly.
While on vista, both games run fine maxxed out on each monitor

No offense, but I think Vista sucks balls. Microsoft already has plans to release a new OS at the end of this year, or early next year. Clearly, they realize they need to step up their game.

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Originally Posted by 'Ripper',index.php?page=Thread&postID=32730#post32 730

No offense, but I think Vista sucks balls. Microsoft already has plans to release a new OS at the end of this year, or early next year. Clearly, they realize they need to step up their game.

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LOL. And where have you heard that?

Suvega and I work for MS. We've heard no such nonsense. Are you referring to SP2?

Vista's fine -- it's intended as a higher security OS. XP is "faster", but has less security. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Suvega and I have Vista boxes and XP boxes and both work perfectly fine for us. I've noticed no additional WoW latency between them (load times, etc) -- the only latency I have with one of my vista boxes has to do with heavier addons than the other vista/xp boxes.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Micro...09-55057.shtml

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/35641/118/

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...ment-scheduled

etc.

Since I had some spare time on my hands today, I tested WoW on a machine with XP on it, was getting between 70-120fps. Flew to a few towns, did some pvp, etc. Did a clean install of Vista 64, and tested the same WoW install(it was on the D: drive), consistently get 30-40fps. Same settings, latest drivers. I have 4gb ram, 8800gt, E6600 on that machine. When I had Vista installed last year, I remember the fps was a little higher, but I had to turn down settings, etc. I run WoW in windowed mode, and I understand the fps will be lower, but I don't expect it to be that low.

I'm not knocking you, Suvega, or MS. But come on now, I'm not the only one disappointed by Vista.

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Originally Posted by 'rfalias',index.php?page=Thread&postID=32707#post3 2707

I like vista because, while maybe its just me, but if I try to put a WoW screen on the secondary monitor in XP, it basiclly lags EVERYTHING out very badly.
While on vista, both games run fine maxxed out on each monitor

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I want to point out that the issue you had could very well be an NVIDIA driver thing that is known with known workarounds.
I don't know your hardware so I can't be sure, but it's something to check out.