Level 83 and still can't complete an instance other than Blackrock

I'm seriously questioning my multiboxing skills right now.

I'm just struggling, whereas I have facerolled through every other dungeon.

BRC I managed to do on my first attempt after several wipes, but TotT I just can't do the final boss, and then Stonecore I am constantly wiping on the three trashes before the boss, then when I get to the boss I wipe also.

Anyway, my main question is... in Stonecore when I come to the group of five mobs, I /focus each one on my slaves and then cast Hex, but I never get them too land. Only 2 will ever land? Is this common? I only learnt Hex at level 81 because I never needed it before now so I don't really know the spell mechanics at all, but I can see that my /focus'es are all setup correctly, but the /cast [@focus] Hex just won't hit.

Do you guys running four man shaman teams also find that you miss constantly on Hex?

It's funny , the only one I have done is Tides. and that is only kinda half way, as a healer in our guild wanted to go, and I offered to go along.

anyways, First boss, healer dies, I wind up healing and DPSing to a win, but barely.

second boss, My tank dies, so one of my shamans picks him up and kites him around. excellent heals that time around from the guildie.

The rest was cake, Didn't even worry about CC, and was in quest greens /ICC gear.

I'd like to try the others , might do so later tonight, but want to hit lvl 83 first.

Stephen

Practice, practice, and a bit more practice. You will get better. Wipes suck but it's just part of the program.

Also just try out some different combos maybe. From your sig it looks like you have some selection to try different things. All those priests- try doubling up on your heals maybe. Never hurts to try new things.

Gear too. Better your gear gets the easier it gets.

there are new spell hit caps to remember as well. Try reforging from crit to hit on some of your gear, you may find that your dps goes up and those hex's will hit more regular too!

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Originally Posted by jinkobi

Practice, practice, and a bit more practice. You will get better. Wipes suck but it's just part of the program.

Also just try out some different combos maybe. From your sig it looks like you have some selection to try different things. All those priests- try doubling up on your heals maybe. Never hurts to try new things.

Gear too. Better your gear gets the easier it gets.

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I haven't done a whole lot of dungeons, but I run double heals in Blackrock , as heals cost a ton now, and my gear just blows.

Double healing really helps when you haven't got gear.

I seem to find myself doing 4x Chain Heal, a lot more than usual. (ie Compared to Wrath).

Maybe double heals is what the doctor ordered! I might switch one of my Elemental Shamans into another Restoration.

On Stonecore, do you use follow to avoid the worm burrows or do you manually move your guys around?

Can you decurse the Curse of Blood on High Preistess Azil?

My cleanse spirit doesn't seem to be working ...

Sounds like you need to get control of your toons down. There are a lot of movement intensive fights... almost all of them have something to interrupt/purge mixed with a dodge shit on the ground mechanic. I've done everything on normal and it wasn't that hard at all, granted I boxed in icc 10 and 25 so I was used to controlling my toons.

Heroics are actually challenging and I like that... Setup CC and Movement now and practice practice practice...

I don't think its the problem is moving your alts around it is healing. Healing right now is hugely gimped. You run out of mana so fast, and its not scaling well when you're undergeared and slowly lvl'n

They assume your stats are of a fully geared toon. The gear we get doing quests is terrible, and the amount of mana increase we're receiving as we lvl up aren't helping.

The fights are easy, I just haven't got the int/spirit to keep my heals alive. So my tank just dies from the normal tank dmg.


Go visit the healing forums on Battlenet. It's crazy. When we slowly get geared up, thigns will totally become easier again, its just a huge threshold we're going to be battling for a while.

Also IMO, the healer dungeon queues are going to be instance for a long time, so it may actually be pretty easy to just queue up your healer and gear it first lol.

I really, really, really don't understand why everyone is screaming that healing costs so much mana.

I run protadin, disc priest, ele sham, destro lock, arcane mage And the only character that runs oom is my mage at times, because of chainspamming arcane blast.

It has to be said that the protadin has quite good gear now about 10 rare 308 pieces. But even when queueing with just my priest I hardly run oom. You just have to completely change the way you're healing. For a disc priest, only ever cast flash heal if there's no other option and greater heal might land to late. I even spam smite when i can for the 5 stacks = +15% healing and mana regain.

You have to check what spells costs and what they heal. The standard spammable spells have their costs increased indeed, but aslong as you can avoid those by casting every other spell when you can I don't really see a problem.

(my priest gear was mostly lvl 70 epics still, in full cata uncommons now(thanks to Auction house)

I'm with you on not managing other instances though. The new dungeons require A LOT more movement which is quite hard to manage. Beside that i personally still need to learn to heal. I spam smite 70% of the time which heals through Atonement. Messing around with Repeater Regions since yesterday.

I had mana issues the first few times trying the first boss in throne of tides. Priest (disc) is my healer.

A couple things were the cause.

My team was taking too much dmg, so was going out of mana keep them all up. 1/2 way through the fight was out of mana, then of course everyone died :). Solution to that was, concentrate more on avoiding dmg than doing dps.

Second thing as was mentioned above, Flash heal, I was casting this as my preferred heal. Since then I have stopped using it unless I need to, to keep someone from dying.

A third thing I got set up to do but haven't needed, is emergency healing with my shaman (they never run out of mana so figured a few chain heals might save the priest some mana, haven't really needed yet though).

Those two things made mana a non issue really. Haven't had mana issues since really. (granted there are more instances I have yet to try (only lvl 83)

The one other thing I did, which helped some I'm sure is I bought a few pieces of gear for my tank, I was in i232-i245 mostly on my tank, so bought greens at lvl 81/82 to fill out some spots that I hadn't filled with quests/random drops. Oh I also ran blackrock depths several times and got a few upgrades there. Boosted my HP a lot which made healing less of an OMG i'm about to die and more of a steady state thing.