Dungeon finder is just too good

I started an alliance team on Cho'gall last December and came back to them a few months ago. Currently at L62, this team has run more dungeons (some just for achievements) at this point than any other team of mine. I just love parking by the repair vendor in SW and porting back and forth, safe and sound.

I have to rate the LFD as the best change ever for the time savings alone. Thinking back and comparing how instances used to be, it is amazing. Remember having to run to the summoning stones? Clearing all the elites just to get to the instance portal? God forbid if you forgot something or your bags were full. How about the hunter that was out of arrows/bullets or the other classes running out of reagents? All that trouble and nothing dropped for your class. ;)

What do you think? Is LFD the most OP thing every added to WOW or is it just "overrated"?

I like it because it is easy. I hate it because it eliminates world pvp.
Remember daily heroic quests? Great spot to go park for some world pvp action.
I also dislike it because people really never have to play with people from their server. You can be a complete fuckwad and still have no problems finding groups with the dungeon finder. As a multi-boxer who really cares I am my own group every once in awhile a shaman gets lippy and I have to put them on ignore, but for a single boxing person I can only imagine the degree of fucktards lurking the LFD system.

You could even park your toons in a Sanctuary like Shattrath, to be immune to PvP if you wanted to avoid it.

The LFD tool is great, except that our compositions need to include a toon who could tank and another who could heal. Still a lot of flexibility in group make up.

LFD tool should let premades queue for dungeons as is ! No role check.

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I hate it because it eliminates world pvp.

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Am I the only one who plays on a PvE server?

And yes, the Dungeon Finder is an amazing tool for everyone, especially Boxers!

I don't like that I can't queue for lower level dungeons, say if you want the achieve for clearing it.

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Originally Posted by Multibocks

I don't like that I can't queue for lower level dungeons, say if you want the achieve for clearing it.

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I know! I also don't like that you have to meet a requirement to queue your team. And I am glad someone brought this up. I find some of my teams can queue for BGs with the tool and some not. Not sure why. And I thought you were supposed to be able to queue for wintergrasp with it but never saw that option.

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Originally Posted by blast3r

I know! I also don't like that you have to meet a requirement to queue your team. And I am glad someone brought this up. I find some of my teams can queue for BGs with the tool and some not. Not sure why. And I thought you were supposed to be able to queue for wintergrasp with it but never saw that option.

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The random BG and dungeon finder tools are actually separate. The dungeon finder tool has role requirements where the BG finder does not. Any team should be able to que for whatever BGs they have access. AFAIK you've never been able to que for WG from the BG tool but you're able to see how much time until the next WG if you're in Northrend. I know there is a WG Battlemaster in Org, but I've never qued from there for it, not sure if all cities have one or not.

The random dungeon finder pretty much killed PvE boxing for me. It's just too good even for solo players.

It could make sense if the random BG finder would also take care about roles one way or another. I quite often end up (solo) vs an alliance team in AB with 4-5 healers and none in our group. Or you end up in an AV tonotice there is no tank at all in the group. However that could be overcome if ppl were able to activate their offspec during a BG, not only during 'preparation'.

I have been parking my L62 (pvp server) team in lower city next to the repair vendor -or- next the JC trainer (repair vendor) inside the inn in Helfire.

I hate it that you need a tank eligible class to use LFD so all my new teams have been trinity setups with 3x same dps. But ease of getting into and out of dungeons without getting ganked by 80's is just priceless. Leveling under the radar and poping up at 80 to world pvp is going to be fun.

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Originally Posted by zenga

It could make sense if the random BG finder would also take care about roles one way or another. I quite often end up (solo) vs an alliance team in AB with 4-5 healers and none in our group. Or you end up in an AV tonotice there is no tank at all in the group. However that could be overcome if ppl were able to activate their offspec during a BG, not only during 'preparation'.

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If you happen to run a Pally tank, you can go Prot/Ret for pvp. It's not that bad actually. Just swap gear once you get to the end boss. I've tanked both bosses in AV this way with mine. There's always plenty of healers in AV, if not, run your own team in there. The spec I have on my Pally is what I use for both pvp and pve, Just grab an extra shield and toss the +Res enchant on it for a bit more. Not sayin it's a solid build, but I can survive most fights now.

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Originally Posted by Toned

LFD tool should let premades queue for dungeons as is ! No role check.

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Sorry for bumping an old thread. But I only realized this when I hit level 15 with my group. All excited I signed up, and the role check failed. So I had to restart one of my characters as another class.

The option is there to actually walk to the cave, but for people like me not only new to multiboxing but to the game to some extent, sacrificing your personal class choices for Dungeon Finder tool is a compromise worth going for imho. It has nothing to do with lazyness, but a greater enjoyment of the game. :D

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Originally Posted by Whur

Sorry for bumping an old thread. But I only realized this when I hit level 15 with my group. All excited I signed up, and the role check failed. So I had to restart one of my characters as another class.

The option is there to actually walk to the cave, but for people like me not only new to multiboxing but to the game to some extent, sacrificing your personal class choices for Dungeon Finder tool is a compromise worth going for imho. It has nothing to do with lazyness, but a greater enjoyment of the game. :D

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Many appologies Whur... I need to use you as an example.

I do not like the LFG / LFD finder. Its a terrible idea. How lazy does a person need to be, to not go from the closest major city, to a stone. 2 mins flight time? 3? And when some people dont get in, when they want to, they just select all their class options, despite the talent points, skill, experience, and gear. Then you get a fail tank, in full PVP gear, classes wearing cloth, when they should wear leather, or mail when they should wear plate, or a Priest with all crit and hit, not much intel., and in shadowform... healing... or a druid in balance gear, that goes bear form... "what? Im a tank. Blizzard says so."

It used to be that people would go to a stone, summon people there, or all meet. It used to be that the scrubs that didnt know how to play their class, let alone gear it up right, simply didnt get in groups.

Blizzard made the LFD finder for these people. "Dont know if youre a tank? Click here" "Dont have the right gear for your class, but want to do dungeons? Click here" "Too lazy to explore this vast wold we spent 6 years creating? Click here" "Have no clue where you are going, just want to pew pew? Click here"

Nope. LFD is an absolute failure. I refuse to use it, and I havent since several weeks of it coming out.

I do conceed that if you 5box, this is a quick way to zone to an instance. However, if you are boosting, you are often running to that instance anyway.

LFD is amazing for a multi-boxer if you're not using it you are only waisting your own time. If you are power leveling (no idea why people call it boosting so annoying) then yes you're probably going to run. Other than that you should be using LFD to maximize your own play time.

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Originally Posted by Toned

LFD is amazing for a multi-boxer if you're not using it you are only waisting your own time. If you are power leveling (no idea why people call it boosting so annoying) then yes you're probably going to run. Other than that you should be using LFD to maximize your own play time.

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No no. Please dont take the overall negative tone / opinion about the subject wrong. I do agree about boxing. I do use it from time to time.

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Originally Posted by Apps

....I do conceed that if you 5box, this is a quick way to zone to an instance. However, if you are boosting, you are often running to that instance anyway.

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I guess I could have clarified that for non boxers... all the above.

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Originally Posted by Toned

.... If you are power leveling (no idea why people call it boosting so annoying) ...

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Yes, I dunno. I seen the term here, figured it was what its called here... so I conformed. Ive always called it power leveling also.

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Originally Posted by Apps

Many appologies Whur... I need to use you as an example.

I do not like the LFG / LFD finder. Its a terrible idea. How lazy does a person need to be, to not go from the closest major city, to a stone. 2 mins flight time? 3? And when some people dont get in, when they want to, they just select all their class options, despite the talent points, skill, experience, and gear. Then you get a fail tank, in full PVP gear, classes wearing cloth, when they should wear leather, or mail when they should wear plate, or a Priest with all crit and hit, not much intel., and in shadowform... healing... or a druid in balance gear, that goes bear form... "what? Im a tank. Blizzard says so."

It used to be that people would go to a stone, summon people there, or all meet. It used to be that the scrubs that didnt know how to play their class, let alone gear it up right, simply didnt get in groups.

Blizzard made the LFD finder for these people. "Dont know if youre a tank? Click here" "Dont have the right gear for your class, but want to do dungeons? Click here" "Too lazy to explore this vast wold we spent 6 years creating? Click here" "Have no clue where you are going, just want to pew pew? Click here"

Nope. LFD is an absolute failure. I refuse to use it, and I havent since several weeks of it coming out.

I do conceed that if you 5box, this is a quick way to zone to an instance. However, if you are boosting, you are often running to that instance anyway.

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Thats ok. I take no offense whatsoever, the sole reason I am multi boxing is so I can have time to explore every inch of the continents and normal dungeons and follow the lore as I love the books. Not to run through and pew pew, or to farm something.

I actually decided to go back to my original class line up, so I will be walking to every instance no matter what. Well later on hopefully flying.

Although, if I had the right class line up for my 5 boxing, I would use the LFD tool in a heartbeat, don't misunderstand. :D

[EDIT]: I do not have any high level alts for boosting or power leveling etc, I started from scratch with my newbie line up.

I like the convenience, especially when i have limited time.

I hate what it has done to pvp. I wish you had to fully complete the dungeon at least once before you could get to it via LFD. At least make people find the entrance. People just starting after lfd probably have no clue where e instance even is in azeroth. Id hate to heal for lfd groups.

Good thing i dont have to!!! :D

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Originally Posted by katsurahama

I like the convenience, especially when i have limited time.

I hate what it has done to pvp. I wish you had to fully complete the dungeon at least once before you could get to it via LFD. At least make people find the entrance. People just starting after lfd probably have no clue where e instance even is in azeroth. Id hate to heal for lfd groups.

Good thing i dont have to!!! :D

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Thats the case for cata dungeons. you need to get to the entrance once to be able to select it in LFD