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I have used Jamie leveling guide and quest helper from 1 to 80 many times and have instance boosted many of my quad teams with RAF. Now I have 1 team at 80 and 9 around 61. I don't mind questing as a 5 team but gather quests really kill me any chance someone put together a NO gather leveling guide from 60 to 80 there has to be enough zones out there to do it. I don't care about getting the zone achevement just getting to 80 asap. Any ideas?
If you don't want any collections at all, you could probably do Classic Warcraft + Burning Crusades. With each new expansion, they quickly reduce the amount of experience required (usually by 30%) per level of the older content.
Basically, you only need 70% of the experience now, that players needed when BC was current content. If you have a main team with heirloom items, this can add a further 20% additional experience to your later teams, making Classic + Burning Crusade content that much faster to blast through.
If you are questing, and decide to entirely skip collections, you'll occasionally miss out on the follow up quest, which might be a kill quest. There were a lot of collections in BC, but most of them did not lead to anything special, and skipping them did not adversely affect your team much.
Not so in Northrend (WotLK)... There are a ton of collections, which lead to kill quests, which lead to more collections etc. If you're not willing to do collections, then questing is not a good option for you to level with.
Aside from questing, you can run instances. If your team includes a tank (in particular) or a healer (to a lesser degree), the random dungeon finder will rock for leveling. It might be rough in places, example - kill trash but not able to down a boss, so do the trash and then reset the dungeon and repeat... But this is one non-collection option to use.
The other choice is PvP. Depending on your battlegroup, there might or might not be a ton of lower (non-maximum) level BG's at a given time. In general AV is the fastest BG to queue for and is the best experience from running it. Even if BG queue's suck on your server, you can queue for these all the time and run them as supplemental experience whenever possible.
Also there will be some dailies (usually collections & kills open these) which you can run once a day, for extra experience to help out with not doing collections.
I found that doing every non collection quest in outland got me from 58 to 66 and a half by the end of Nagrand. I do believe I did the very first collection quest (gathering scraps of wood and metal) in Hellfire due to no other decent rewards for that armor being available until level 64-65.
Overall I would say that switching between doing AV/Instances/Questing so to not get burned out on any of them would be the fastest way.
I tried to avoid the collection quests in BC. Did a few instances, but got stuck at lvl 67 with "no" kill quests left. Mind you, this was without Heirlooms on.
You can get pretty far avoiding collection quests but as you stated yourself, some loot from the collection quests are almost to good to skip :)
Random Dungeons helps now.
I've just finished Azeroth on my latest team (5xPaladin, hit level 58 with 10 minutes to spare before maintenance). I'd simply quest as usual and if I ran out of kill quests, hop into random dungeons until I was happy to go to the next zone.
Northrend being the "lets-make-everything-an-anti-group-boring-collection-fest" that it is, I expect to be doing a lot of dungeons going from 68 to 80.
Unfortunately in Northrend, you are pretty much obligated to do some gather quests, or you'll miss some epic quest lines. I couldn't figure out why my "Wrathgate" line wouldn't open up on my Draenei team until I went to Wowhead, and found a couple gather/vehicle quests that originally I didn't want to do. It was the same with opening all of the airship dailies, there's a few gather quests there as well.
Ayup - sux eh. Northrend is by far my least favourite leveling experience, and it's so ironically anti-group (I mean, shouldn't an MMO be, oh, I don't know, encouraging group questing???).Quote:
Originally Posted by Siaea
I pretty much expect to do all Icecrown quests, at least the opening Storm Peak ones and the rest will be up for grabs - hopefully that'll get me through without too much trouble.
My previous teams did all quests down to getting Loremaster of Northrend, and it was excruciating.
I say this is every thread like this.
Collection quests are part of the game, if I were you I would attempt to change your attitude about them rather than changing your tactics.
Just treat them as focused grinding, try to get in a groove, youll be alright.
Or not, and youll find leveling a bit more miserable.
Definitely! They're easy, especially if you have it set up to let all your slaves loot without switching windows (and you should have that) - 5x as long as doing it solo, but you get 5x as much xp, loot and gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
If you can, listen to some music, have a movie on or something - it's a great way to play and easy to do.
I would add a martini or two to help make things less boring :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kate
I'm going to share with everyone the ultimate "no collection quest" leveling guide. It's a VERY guarded secret, so please. don't share this with anyone else.
Step 1: Find a mob you can kill easily, kill it, loot it.
Step 2: Repeat Step 1.
You'll be 80 in no time.
Lol damn trollmods =)
Beer. Beer is my ally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drommon
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Originally Posted by kate
Yes I have Interact with target set up and its great I leveled 5 skinning 1-450 in a day So looting is easy and your right easy kills. The cog gathers are a pain and when the drop rate is low or the cogs or drop rate is few and far between I feel ilke killing myself. (there is some lame egg quest in GunDrak that was the worst and troll patrol UGH)
Yes TV on Lost, American Idol or whatever going on. I just though that someone might have documanted a no gather leveling guide since there are so many lvling guides out there.
Thanks for all the sugestions:)
If my TV was on American idol I'd want to kill myself as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twy
Serious Advice:
Don't try to level to 80 in 1 day, I know, it's unpossible!, but you have to stop thinking that way. Don't worry about getting to 80. Set very small easily obtainable goals for yourself. When I'm leveling, I focus on getting the zone achievement for northrend / outland. This lets me set rather small milestones to work towards, when you think of all the collection quests to 80, it's very daunting and /wrist worthy. When you take it a zone at a time, it's much easier to think about / get into a grinding groove.
So THAT's how you get past goldshire... I must try step 2Quote:
Originally Posted by Svpernova09
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Originally Posted by Redbeard
agree, used to be in the "no collection quests boat" now I don't mind them and allows me to complete all quests for that area expecially nice if accounts aren't raf linked
no killing Boars will not level you to 80Quote:
Originally Posted by thefunk
General tips,
If drops and gather items act as a reagent, only one toon has to collect it. that is if the quest log dont list the items, or the items are used to summon a NPC or open a portal, not every toon has to collect it. Examples, Its Abominable, one toon can collect the part and the party gets the kill credit. Example, the Argent tournament dailys where you have to collect flowers to summon a NPC for a weapon.
Party wide drops. There are alot drops that the whole party can can loot. the Argent Daily to pick up the ember for the frozen lake, is a party wide drop.
100% drop rate. There are some world drop quest that is 100%, I don't remember which one. There is one or 2 in Ice Crown. Mostly they are in dungeons and starting areas.
Base on the above I realize long ago that there aren't that many hardcore drop and gathering quest. I think Blizzard increase drop rates since WoW first came out.
Level 70 - 75 during a weekend using random or call to arms battlegrounds. Best ones are AV and IoC
At lvl 75 you will steamroll everything in pvp regardless of your team composition and will be able to level much more efficiently via pvp without the need of call to arms BG during weekends. In fact, lvl 76 - 80 is much faster via PvP than PvE. You can level from 76 to 80 in a single day during a weekend with AV or IoC call to arms.
Then do the kill quests at lvl 80 for the extra gold and to make your toons at least take the flight paths and get friendly rep with each faction.
You need no quests to enter the instances and only need friendly rep to get the given faction tabard and start gathering reputation. If you have already one team with maximum reputation there is not even need to gather faction rep wit your other teams because the faction vendor best enchants are BoA.
My warlocks still have to do all the icecrown and storm peaks quests. I will do only the kill ones and the ones that unlock the shadow vault place. Not even interested in unlocking the dailies, in 3 months the content will be history anyways.
There is nothing you can get from questing that is better than the stuff offered by the PvP or emblems vendors, so don't even bother with the collect quests unless this is the first team you level.
If this is your first team, then gain friendly with every faction to be able to buy the tabards and do the collect quests ONLY with your main just to see the content.
Then head into instances and as you farm them you will gain faction rep and be able to buy the faction enchants, the other faction vendor stuff is useless and by the time you grind the rep you will have full T9 set that will vastly outgear the faction vendor crap.
There are only a couple collection quests that open content... at least on the alliance side
1 ) The gather quest in the mine in the naxxramas area. It opens fordragon hold chain. I recommend you to do that quest on your main if that is your first team... otherwise just skip it.
2 ) Sons of hoodir chain opening quests where you need to do a collect quest or two to gain some rep with that faction. You should do these quests because they open the sons of Hoodir place, otherwise they will stay hostile to you.
3 ) A couple of the safari quests if you want the achievement. If you are not an achievement whore you can skip these. I do only the booze preparation quest because you have to run around killing lots of stuff and you just run into the things you need to gather... and it gives you a free mana drinks that get your team drunk to boot.
Other than that, you can completely skip almost all the other gathering quests.
Is that even possible :confused: I've skipped Netherstorm and Shadowmoon Valley almost completely while leveling my guys. By the time they got through Blade's Edge they were 68 and ready for Northrend. This was skipping a big chunk of gathering quests as well and starting TBC @58lvl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seldum
Sounds like youre missing some quest hubs or something.
You should at least attempt some of the gathering quests in WOTLK. While I agree with most the questing is more SOLO oriented than any other expansion by far. While it is an MMO - WOW is catering to the casual/solo player now as the game gets older and game population shrinks.
when i last leveled a set of 5 together (after raf) i used to level from 60 -70 just as you hit shadowmoon valley (with no collection quests & only a couple of instances if i got the quest)Quote:
Originally Posted by jinkobi
this time round i only did a couple of the inital starting quests in hellfire @ 58 and boosted to 68 :p
I actually quit 2 boxing the first time when wrath hit and all the stupid collection quests meant that having two toons slowed me down (as well as being problematic when friends wanted just my healer to do the dungeons).