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So a simple question, what is your motivating factor that makes it fun or motivates you to play on a PvP server?
Have just started leveling a team for the first time on a PvP server (KJ ) and the ganking is a little annoying creating a lot of extra downtime and annoyance.
Maybe I am just not a conflict person, I even helped a lowbie horde toon who was getting attacked by npcs.
What is your motivation? Is it just a gank fest?
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it isnt always a gank fest..
unless the opp faction on your server is truely BORED. which I have seen plenty.
on my server, there is a good amount of ganking but you just gotta steer clear with how easy leveling is now there is always a different zone to head to.
and esp. as a boxer steer clear of opp faction on a PVP server.. if they see you they see 5xthe fun.
+side when you are 80 you can kill punk beaches.
+dont let opp faction get loot.
+wipe world raids/killing/farming
+i like world pvp more than BGs
and the negatives .. well heh the same as above could happen to you or of course ganking.
my last team to 80. I only got ganked 1 time.. level 73ish.
and one other time when 76 2 80s tried to and I killed them..rofl
It's fun when it's a relatively even fight. It's lame when there's a level 80 that comes and destroys your low level toons for the hell of it. When that happens I log to other toons for a bit (particularly if they start camping me).
There's lots of fun to be had in harassing the other side, though. See someone doing an escort quest that you were wanting to start? Kill em. If they're within 5 levels of you, it should be a pretty easy fight. Hell, I killed my first DK (level 58+) in my 30s on KJ, finishing up my achievement for killing one of every class ;)
Well so far it has been just getting ganked at SM, everytime I have been there, there has been horde boosting toons and their booster ganks my team. Even my lvl 80 druid got ganked by a BE Ret Pally who appeared out of nowhere, stunned me in regular form and I was dead before I could do anything, VERY annoying.
I joined KJ for social reasons. Also the LoB guild has very cool people in it. At first I was a target by Yesh (Daft, stronger, better... w/e), she ganked me 3 times in a week right after I moved to the server. I got used to it. In fact I just chalked it up to it just being another part of playing WoW. Now I equate Red=Dead and I look for opportunities to gank. I don't even care what level you are, if you are red then you are dead or about to be. There have been some evenings where I was so bored that I just traveled to contested areas to grief horde. Another reason I joined LoB was because they told me they camped horde cities. Well we have not done that yet, so I am looking forward to shutting down some horde cities for an evening.
To be honest, I do not find it fun killing the horde, kinda my feeling about it is that I would not be happy getting nuked and so I do not want to nuke another player, for me the fun is progressing through content, not hindering other people's progression.
I am thinking maybe I am not a pvp player. I started this team also to interact with other boxers, although guild chat in boom just seems VERY quite lol. I suppose better than having a 12 yr old taking bs the whole evening in guild chat lol.
my motivation is GIMP, i prefer pvp over pve though. Leveling is done by boosting mostly, so i hardly meet alliance.
I think a PvP server is just better and more the way the game should be, if oposing factions meet in contested
terratory then we should be able to try an kick the shite out of each other thats how it would be irl
ganking is unfortunatly part of the experiance but always go's both ways. i got ganked a few times while in
outland but nothing to bad as you can usually ask for help from guildys if your getting camped
In relation to "red=dead" i try to stay clear of ganking lowbies or even 80's so i dont give bad rep unless they attack me and to
prove a point i will then camp them for a few more kills lol.
But i am guilty of a little ganking out of boredom in the past people an npc's at Gadgetzan realy dont like me lol
After playing for nealry 3 years on a PvE server (wildhammer) i can for sure say PvP is much better for the good and the bad
It is just another part of WoW. It's kind of exciting. I used to be a kind-hearted individual and leave lower players alone, until I kept getting ganked after leaving red players alone to do their questing or whatever. My good will was pushed too far. Now it's open season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drommon
My favorite moment has been when i killed a level 72 pally on my main while i was helping one of my 70's toons. I get a whisper yelling at me for killing him - once. I politely told him if he didn't want to get killed he shouldn't be on a pvp server. It was funny how worked up he got after I interrupted his questing. He wasted more time logging into ally main and insulting me, than if he had just rezed and continued.
I have no friends anywhere else and Svper told me I could be in the "in" crowd.
You've been dooped my good sir ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vecter
I always played on a PvP server since the game came out. Just adds a bit more fun and excitement to the game. It might slow you down a bit as you level, but man, you make up for it 100 fold when you hit 80.
When people ganked me at level 1-70ish, I used to always think, better enjoy it now, cause when I'm 80, you're f'd.
I would have to say my favorite part is camping the Wintergrasp Spawn location ~20 minutes before the game starts and the opposing faction is depending.
About ~20-30 minutes before, lots of people starting zoning into WG and they spawn at the top of the stairs. Usually they want to try to do VoA before its too late or get ready for the battle. When they zone in, you'll see them long before they finished even loading. So you can kill them and loot their corpse before the even know what happened.
Eventually, some with try to take revenge, but I easily dispatched them. Finally, enough of them get organized and work together to try to take me down.
Good times.
I generally like PvP servers better because the player base is 'better at the game' in general. From the start of leveling in contested zones like Stranglethorn Vale you have to keep your camera on a swivel. If you don't, you're likely to get jumped over and over and over. This, in turn, forces a person to get better at being aware of their surroundings. On PvE servers you don't have to keep looking over your shoulder and you become accustomed to just staying 'tunnel visioned' at the single mob you're killing for that quest drop because there is no danger around you, no one to gank you.
I believe this directly relates to end game raiding. People who are more aware of their surroundings can generally get out of the 'fire' quicker and know WTF is going on during a fight. I back my statement up with WoWProgress [US] and WoWProgress [EU]. Look at the top 25 realms [or 50] of both regions...which server type are there more of?
So this is a main reason I deal with being ganked and what not during leveling, because when it comes time to find good players, without their heads in their asses, more of them can be found on PvP servers. This probably doesn't mean much to boxers since we are able to do our own thing for the most part, but I like raiding end game content solo on my main.
Everytime someone says that's how it'd be IRL I gotta chuckle and say you're a (insert race) in a floating city :DQuote:
Originally Posted by angeldeelite
Call me carebear but I'll take my PVE server. Enough people walk around flagged that I can choose to world PVP whenever the urge hits me. OR I can just turn my PVP on and someone will attack me before too long. I just enjoy having that control. If I'm trying to do something I don't want someone else slowing me down or completely stopping me.
I must admit if I do see someone flagged I will 4XStarfire them and instakill them rofl... Just too hard to resist. I've actually made more friends than enemies doing that, lol. LVL 1 ALT whispers WTF just hit me!
Well I have always played on PvE servers due to the fact I diden't wanna get ganked during my leveling.
Now i'm on a pvp server with the other multiboxers, and ill certainty look forward to my first raid on an alliance city.
I had a good laugh doing the "wrathgate" quest chain, at the dragon tower, I landed from the top floor, almost right on top of an alliance druid. He jumped into cat form ran away and hit stealth. For the fun of it I chased him around the tower a bit without killing him or attacking him.
I'm gonna have so much fun on this server.
And if I'm getting ganked on my lowbies, i'm sure someone will come and take down the alliance scum ganking me :D
PvE all the way here. I once rolled on the most unbalanced Oceanic server I could find at the time. I could barely got my team out of Honor Hold (was playing Alliance that time) it was so bad.
I can see the points people are making for PvP servers here, but for me, I'm a PvE'er - not much interested in PvP - so rolling on a PvP server would just be a bad choice for me.
I believe this is very true. However I play on a pve server for the simple fact that I afk a lot (being logged in into wow and maybe playing 20-30% of my login time, since i have to work a bit, answering client calls, ... on a pvp realm this would not be possible).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenril
But i think that starting wow as a boxer from start (bout 6 months ago, without having played wow solo mode before), boxing all hc's first before pugging one and having played around 700 AV's in 4 months gave me the same 'education'. I find myself changing my camera all the time, to see what's going on. It's kinda like driving a car: you have people who drive on the high way 200 km in the same lane, and you have people who are used to drive in the city and constantly use their mirrors and can 'read' the traffic, and thus anticipate.
And that *awareness* gives me an advantage over many solo players on my pve realm while raiding. Some examples from my brief raiding career:
- rotface: people get the infection and then start to look where the kiter is in the room, while I always know where he is beforehand. It's easy to see who knows it and who doesn't by just looking how they react once infected.
- lady D: there are people who only react/notice when a spirit is close, and then there are others who see it coming and position themselves accordingly
- saurfang: there are people who just go stand anywhere where there is a free spot, but then there are others like me who always try to be close to a boomkin and a hunter. it's fun to see that another one wanted my spot and has resulted in a few funny whispers (damn mate, you have the safe spot now)
This is from my experience with casual raiders (often experienced ones from tbc & vanilla) and i find most avid pvp'rs or players who transferred over from a pvp realm mostly having a better reaction when shit hits the fan in a raid.
I enjoy being feared and hated :)
That said, I dont really quest, or even go out into the world much, unless to raid enemy cities, which can be done with the same effect as on a pve server.
When I do see enemies tho, I enjoy dropping down to kill them, or insta-gibbing them out of the air, then parachuting down to safety.
Leveling bloodsail rep by raiding Booty bay was also a plus, I did it on the day of the fishing tournie, so there were plenty of allies to piss off :)
TL / DR: Play what you find fun. For me, that is PVE servers only.
PvE all the way here. Played my first 3 years in WoW on a PVP server and hated getting ganked all the time. It doesn't change when you hit 80, there's always pairs of opposite faction (I was Alli at the time, so in this case it was Horde) that come across you out farming alone and waste you just for the hell of it.
Back in vanilla wow, friend playing a 60 rogue, and me on 60 priest were questing in EPL and a 60 lock rides up the path, jumps off and instantly kills us both. In TBC, I'm on my priest now 70 and diff friend playing his 70 lock and we're questing in netherstorm, 70 hunter drops of his mount and instantly kills both of us.
Finally got smart, rolled horde on a PVE server and I've never died in a world PVP fight since, unless I choose to participate via BG's, wintergrasp, etc. I like the control over when I die and have to corpse run/re-clear area/re-start an excort quest or w/e.
Lastly, i'm also a real loner ingame, almost always questing or leveling by myself, never been part of a real guild (playing together or raiding together) - one of the reasons I enjoy multi-boxing so much. This is not the way to be happy and successful on a server where ~15,000 opposite faction players will waste you instantly, on sight, just because you are there.
Those players all seem like they have more time to play than I do, so they end up with better gear than me, which makes it that much harder to take them down even if I get the jump on them. Or they had epic flyers back before most everyone did, and chase you down and do the multi-trinket Pyroblast insta-kill mid-air then slow fall down and run off laughing at your broken corpse, hanging in the sky to high up to reach so you are forced to spirit rez.
I guess I just don't play hard enough / long enough to be on the breaking edge of the content/gear wave, so I'm always waving my quest blues at an enemy who annihilates me with the latest and greatest stuff that I don't have access to because of how I choose to play my game, and because I prioritize wife, college/homework, and job attendance over playtime.
***Sorry to everyone here, re-reading this I realized it turned into quite a little anti-PVP rant LOL.
I play PVE, because I don't have fun playing on PVP servers. But that's just me :)