Inner space allowed ?

Hello, forgive me if this is not the place to post this, I am new to boxing and was reading about innerspace, isboxer and that how the site their site says its allowed to be used in WoW.

Today I tried connecting using innerspace and i cannot connect, it is down, I googled inner space because I forget what the actual URL was and I came across this site, http://www.mmowned.com/forums/bots-p...s-openbot.html

and saw things about bots which I know is Not allowed in WoW and bannable but what concerns me is I saw:

[QUOTEHow Safe Is Innerspace Compared To Glider?

I won't lie to you.. Innerspace has the same risks attached to it as Glider and has had a few ban waves in the last couple of months (As has Glider). Having said that though their track record is on a par with Glider and updates to the secruity scripts come much faster. I, personally, think though that as Innerspace has so much more advanced features that the security issues in the last months have been over-ruled by my need to code/bot.][/QUOTE]

What is this saying ?
You 'can" possiby be banned for using this ? Or Am I misreading here ???

As long as you keep one key stroke = 1 action your not in trouble.

We are alot of user who love innerspace and ISboxer.

Theres always a risk of being banned even if you use mods.

oh can you explain how is there a risk at being banned using mods, especially inner space, I dont want to run this, if there is a risk and lose my years of wowing off a main account or any account for that matter.

Im very new too boxing, 1 key stroke, 1 action, umm.. I barely can do much at this stage, if I do continue using innerspace at all due to their being that risk has given me a scare.

I use 2 accounts with innerspace and control 2 toons obviously. I click whatever spells I desire off main frame and the slave does the same action, is this what you mean ?

1 key=1action does not refer to boxing it is any WoW player. As quoted from many WoW GMs if you use this rule you will not get banned. They can tell when you repeat keystrokes many times and they will talk to you in game. If you reply, they say ok but you know they are watching you closer. If you don't respond, you are considered a Bot and get a ban. Doing 1 thing on different toons with 1 key is allowed. Why would Blizzard stop you from playing more than one account at a time?

If you go back several years, Inner Space was a platform on which bots could be run.
That has not been the case, for many years.
The site is old, and is referring to bots which no longer exist.

The current incarnation of Inner Space & IS Boxer are 100% legit and safe to use.
You cannot bot with IS Boxer; it is impossible to loop actions or use delays, so even if you wanted you cannot do unattended play.

1 Key = 1 Action has been quoted so many times.
This is a safe area to stay within.
I don't see how you can possibly violate 1 Key = 1 Action, using IS Boxer, so its safe to use.

At least several hundred users box assorted games using IS Boxer, and I've yet to hear of even one who has been banned.

on wow forums I see a response like,

From what I have read, Innerspace is a botting platform. It's not a bot itself, but something you run a bot from. It also appears to use a program called ISXWarden to BYPASS WoWs Warden detection.

I would say not allowed, simply based on those facts alone.



so is this true ? this program uses isxwarden to by[ass blizzes warden detection ?

sounds like a troll at best...

edit: I would suggest the WoW forums isn't the best place to get accurate information given the amount of ignorant arguments that takes place over there. I would also suggest you read the wealth of information on these forums before you post blindly.

Why don't you try something else if you're worried, like Keyclone or alt-tab

ISXWarden was discontinued in August of 2008, and was never part of Inner Space regardless.
IS Boxer/IS has no built in protections against Warden; there's nothing to hide.

Do a petition in game, for a GM response, if it will make you feel better.

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ISXWarden was discontinued in August of 2008, and was never part of Inner Space regardless.
IS Boxer/IS has no built in protections against Warden; there's nothing to hide.

Do a petition in game, for a GM response, if it will make you feel better.

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Yea just be prepared to wait up to 7 Working Days for a response bahaha stupid blizz

I've had an open ticket for two weeks today.

There hasn't been a confirmed case of anyone getting banned using Innerspace or any other MB software in a legitimate way. (At least that I know of or have read on here).

There is another software vendor that tries to scare everyone into buying his software.

That forum that you quoted from is out to sell his software and lies about all the other software to make his look like the only one you can use, I've posted on his forum before and had my account banned and IP banned.

Maybe compile a sticky thread about ISBoxer's legality from Ualaa's posts? :)
It's not surprising people are concerned when they read posts that are years old or otherwise give false info.

This is probably the best info you can get, and it's directly from Lax. It's posted on the front page of www.ismods.com

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This web site was originally intended for all kinds of scripts, extensions, and user interfaces to be shared for use with Inner Space. This site remains here for your viewing pleasure and to promote transparency (what have we to hide?) but be advised that the information here is quite old and outdated, and there are no regular visitors to this site.

There is no ISXWarden or ISXWoW since 2008 (if you paid for a "bot" since then that requires and/or includes them, you got scammed), and the World of Warcraft areas of this site were essentially closed down long before that. You will not find any current hacks for WoW or other games here, and we do not know of any such hacks for WoW currently in use or available. If that's what you're looking for, you're not going to find it here, sorry.

Inner Space is a platform for aftermarket customization of 3D games, including advanced window management behavior. Such a platform is not against the EULA or Terms of Use of World of Warcraft or most (all?) other MMOs. ISBoxer is a tool we introduced in early 2009 that uses the Inner Space platform to provide the best multiboxing software the world has ever seen, while adhering to the rules of your favorite games. To date, there have been no bans for using ISBoxer.

Lavish Software has been in the multiboxing business since 2004, and has a reputation for providing the highest quality multiboxing software available, for the best price available. $10 for 90 days or $36 for 365 days, on up to 5 PCs, with a FREE 7-day trial available upon request. Nobody comes close to matching our price or our features!

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No I am not a troll, as I stated I am New too isboxer and inner space, new to boxing overall, just another new struggling boxer, learning as I go, or try too.

I posted my concerns on here as I was reading various posts on boxing and came across somewhere about what I posted which alarmed me.

So wanted some clatification, is all.

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Shania

No I am not a troll, as I stated I am New too isboxer and inner space, new to boxing overall, just another new struggling boxer, learning as I go, or try too.

I posted my concerns on here as I was reading various posts on boxing and came across somewhere about what I posted which alarmed me.

So wanted some clatification, is all.

Cheers.

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Ok fair enough my bad.

There are many software choices out there. I tested several before I settled in with Innerspace/ISBoxer. I would rate it as medium in difficulty to configure. I would have said closer to hard if Ualaa hadnt written a guide that goes so deep into functionality. If you are good with logic or programming, its not too difficult to learn.

My suggestion is always to run the wizard and play for a few levels with just the basics and Jamba. Once questing gets annoying, read the section on click to move and interact with target. Once you are comfy, start adding your own key maps. Once that is easy, then you can start with click regions or "next click" functionality. Then move on to Action Target Groups. It offers the most granular control of each of your characters of any of the products I have tried, it just has a learning curve.

If you have issues, they have an IRC channel, and Lax responds quickly to help people.

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Originally Posted by Shania

I googled inner space because I forget what the actual URL was and I came across this site, http://www.mmowned.com/forums/bots-p...s-openbot.html

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Right. A link to a post that's almost 3 years old. If people were getting banned using IS/ISBoxer then we wouldn't still be offering it on this site as a multiboxing solution. I'll just reinforce what everyone else in this thread has already stated, that it's safe and allowed by Blizzard. :)

I just started using IS and am really digging it, especially the mouse passing/clique through things. It took about five hours for me to breakthrough and really figure out what was going on, but everything past that five hours has been miles better for me and my team. Clique to decurse alone has gotten us through Noth in Naxx for the first time, very excited to see if it comes up on the raid weekly soon. Question though on the one button one action thing, if it's a series of actions I could just as easily program through castsequences I'm alright right? For instance, I'm finally thinking of messing around with the dragon in Oculus and was thinking of setting up a sequence where my main channeled the dps dragon spell while the slaves stacked up the dot, then reversing with them channeling while main fires. The software wouldn't be doing any thinking or decision making and it's still press 1 to send a 1 to one screen then some 2's or 3's to the other as I keep tapping it, would that be any kind of violation?

1 key = 1 action is inaccurate. the GM was trying to explain the difference between botting and not botting. What they dont want is for you to hit a key and be able to walk away and it's still doing your dps rotation for you, etc. Anything that happens at the instant you press or release a key is just fine, so long as it is within the other rules of the game (in other words, if you're haxing you're going to get in trouble for haxing, not because you pressed two keys instead of one).

But yes as a general rule if you could do it with /castsequences and /click there is absolutely no harm in doing it through ISBoxer or other software, as nobody can claim you are getting some sort of unfair advantage. For example, note that the FTL DPS Keys actually press a key for assist, and then press your action bar button. You can do that through other methods (e.g. by making lots of macros instead), this just saves you that specific trouble -- a fair advantage.

Groovy, thanks.

i have innerspace too, and 5+ Gms say its ok.

I look at 1 key = 1 action, to be the prohibition on pressing a key, which starts a loop or other automated action. Where I can walk away from my keyboard, and it continues to play.

My roommate (like myself) has a G15 keyboard. He has it set to turn the toon a miniscule amount to the left after 5 minutes, and then to do the same except to the right after another 5 minutes. This behavior loops, until the G-key is pressed again (ie, it is set as a toggle within the profiler software). While this was designed entirely for auction house scans and does not bestow a significant advantage over others, this is specifically violating the 1 key = 1 action rule. I would never use my G15 in such a manner, but everyone has to make their own choices.

I have a mapped key, for my spread out formation. While I hold the key down, my toons move NW, NE, SW and SE (ie: W+Q, W+E, S+Q, and S+E). While this is two keys per toon, on one push from me, it is also one action (per toon) for one key. I'm comfortable this falls within the 1 key = 1 action rule.

I have a question on this topic.

What about keymaps that do a "step" on keypress and key release?

For example, I created a keyp map that does IWT on the press, then does the backwards "s" key on release.

This has the affect of making the slaves face the current target, but prevents them from running to it all the way.

You're still fine, you are manually toggling the inputs. You had to be there to hold the key down, and you had to be there to let go of the key. Any "delay" is purely based on your finger pressing or releasing of the key. It's like the movement keys, you hold them down and your character moves, then eventually you let go and your character stops. This is no different :)

That sounds like a handy macro. (the IWT then s) for facing mobs.

Is it is simple to set up as it sounds. (I'm new to ISBoxer). I haven't done much with IWT, is this a setting that I will see when creating a new keymap? (Currently when my team gets all messed up i hit autofollow master then slaves move backwards but often isn't exactly what I want.

Thanks

Tyval

Very simple.

Create a new mapped key.
Probably in the General Keymap, so it applies to all your teams.

Give it a hotkey of choice.
Two steps.
Steps advance on press and release.
Step 1, sends IWT keybind to all clients.
Step 2, sends 's' or 'downarrow' to all clients.

Struggling getting this working.

Set it up with the following


1) Hold any Keystroke Actions while Hotkey is Held: Off.
2) Execute a step when the hotkey is : Pressed or Released
(you mentioned advance on press and release which I assume is same thing)

3)Use FTL modifiers: off (though tried on as well)

Then added 2 steps.

Step 1)
target: All w/o current
Key Map: General
Mapped Key: Interact with Target

Step 2)
Target: All W/o current
Key combination: S

Doesn't seem to work, I think my first step might be bad... If I change the first setting to hold any keystroke actions to off, I get 1/2 the behavior. First push nothing, second time move back.

I haven't done anything with IWT specifically yet, so perhaps I'm not understanding that.

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time stamps FTW!

Well I thought I had an answer for you, but its not working for me, so I deleted the post :)