How much you think Frozen Orb will be worth after patch 3.3.3?

I'm sure some of you noticed this in the 3.3.3 PTR patch notes:

• Frozo the Renowned has moved into the Dalaran Magus Commerce Exchange and will be trading your Frozen Orbs for various other trade goods.

For those curious, here are the items for which you can trade your Frozen Orbs to Frozo. These each cost 1 Frozen Orb unless noted otherwise in parentheses:

• Crusader Orb (6)
• Runed Orb (4)
• Eternal Fire
• Eternal Earth
• Eternal Water
• Eternal Air
• Eternal Life
• Eternal Shadow
• Frost Lotus
• Pattern: Frosty Flying Carpet [Tailors Only] (6)

Considering that the price will increase i belive, but mainly frost lotus price will greatly fall. Eternals sell for ~3-20g on horde side on my server and on ally side there is almost none up.
Frost lotus sell for ~50-60g now, and will fall in price alot i belive, to about same as the most expensive eternal i guess.

So how much do you think? i would guess around 20g, possibly slightly lower.

On the alliance side on my server they might be worth abit more considering it is so few items on ah at a time (usually 0-3 players selling same item) so its possible to put things abit overpriced (sold enchants for twice the crafting price and some items for like 5-20 times crafting price).

well on my server frozen orbs go between 8 and 15g so hoarding a few hundred now is now a bad idea. crusader orbs are 150g going by the math.. they will be worth around 60g to 80g eternat fires on my server are 20g each for again good investment.

one of two things will happen frozen orbs prices will go up, and the traded item for the will stay the same or it will be the opposite, frozen orbs will stay the same and the rest of the stuff will come down.

personally i'm betting on frozen orbs going up in price, wel on my servers anyway. i see it as a good opportunity for easy gold.

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Originally Posted by QuantumX

one of two things will happen frozen orbs prices will go up, and the traded item for the will stay the same or it will be the opposite, frozen orbs will stay the same and the rest of the stuff will come down.

personally i'm betting on frozen orbs going up in price, wel on my servers anyway. i see it as a good opportunity for easy gold.

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There's an option 3: Frozen orb prices go up and price of items purchasable with orbs go down. With the LFG tool there's being farmed a LOT of orbs that we never see, because people vendor them. Since only fire (and periodically air) eternals currently cost more than an orb (going for around 8-10g atm) - I'm guess that eternal fire will cost a bit less than the price of one orb after the patch (obviously) and the price of one orb is determined by the need for frost lotus. I'm guessing orbs will go for around 20g, although this would also depend on how many orbs for one lotus. I dont think the prices of runed and crusader orbs will be affected significantly, since people were already buying these with spare emblems, but again, this will depend on the final amount of frozen orbs they will cost.

Using Basic Suppy/Demand analysis, the demand curve for Frozen orbs will increase while the supply curve should stay the same. Prices will rise and volume (as sold over the AH) will increase.

For the trade goods, the demand curve isn't really affected, but the supply curve will increase, leading to lower prices and higher volume. Ultimately, the price of frozen orbs will roughly equate to the most expensive trade good, which will likely be eternal fire or frost lotus, potentially all three evening out. If frost lotus don't significantly drop, I don't foresee eternal prices fluctuating that much.

The need.greed dynamic for orbs might fluctuate a bit in randoms though.

I'd be more concerened with the number of people who have their wealth tied up in the high qulity cloths and titansteel. Sell that stuff before 0 day, because prices are going to tank, and pray to God you can hock your finished products before they tank as well.

I vendored all of mine, like 5 stacks =X

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Originally Posted by Multibocks

I vendored all of mine, like 5 stacks =X

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I vendored 250 Frozen Orbs a month ago :S

Frozen Orbs sell for 3-5g on my server.
Eternals range from 10g to 30g.
Frost Lotus is in the 70-75g range.

Well, its safe to assume Frozen Orbs will come up some.
And Frost Lotus will go down some too.
Chances are, on the patch day you can use Frozen Orbs to purchase Frost Lotus and sell a bunch of those to those who don't read the patch notes.

Yeh know that frozen orb vendosr for 5g each?
guess there is a reason to actually not vendor em hmm I see lots of frost lotus in my future :P

frozen orbs on my server have already doubled in price ;-< managed to get about 120 stocked. plus what i make from my boxed heroics should get about 300 to 350 before patch,

Frozen orbs were 3g-5g last week and now 15-40g on my server. There's also several people in trade all day- buying all frozen orbs!

So I guess the word is out now.

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Originally Posted by jinkobi

Frozen orbs were 3g-5g last week and now 15-40g on my server. There's also several people in trade all day- buying all frozen orbs!

So I guess the word is out now.

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yup just checked again on my server and now 25 to 30g each 3x the figure two days ago.

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Originally Posted by jinkobi

Frozen orbs were 3g-5g last week and now 15-40g on my server. There's also several people in trade all day- buying all frozen orbs!

So I guess the word is out now.

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i love dummies whpo sell frozen orbs for less than vend prices! (5g)

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Originally Posted by jinkobi

Frozen orbs were 3g-5g last week and now 15-40g on my server. There's also several people in trade all day- buying all frozen orbs!

So I guess the word is out now.

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Same happening on my server as well. Great thing about being a boxer - no shortage of frozen orbs for us! :D

Will be interesting to see how much the leg enchants jump as well.

Cheers,
S.

i went from 250 for sapphire leg enchants to 400g over the weekend. on Horde Hyjal, the orbs went from 6g to 45-50g

I sold out all of my cloth (Spellweave, Ebonweave, Moonshroud) on Friday. On Saturday I noticed others doing the same and a couple of guys were in trade buying all of the Frozen Orbs that could be had :/

I really don't see what all the fuss is about, given that they upped the lotus drop rate 50 % that would be the only thing worth selling. Lol I never bothered to vendor my orbs and as of right now I'm sitting on just over 1100 lol, prices keep goin up on my server, if/when they get to 40 per I think i'll unload lololol my pallys might get epic flying yet!

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Originally Posted by ghonosyph

I really don't see what all the fuss is about, given that they upped the lotus drop rate 50 % that would be the only thing worth selling. Lol I never bothered to vendor my orbs and as of right now I'm sitting on just over 1100 lol, prices keep goin up on my server, if/when they get to 40 per I think i'll unload lololol my pallys might get epic flying yet!

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Holy shit!

I just noticed Blizz has announced Patch 3.3.5 with a new Raid that is gonna drop frost badges, that should drive Primordial Saronite prices down once people start to stockpile frost badges.

I was working late the night the announcement went out, so I lucked out. Soon as I saw the info I logged in and bought out the Orb market. I'm up to 1600 Orbs all bought at 5g each or gotten from randoms. The next day Orbs were up to 20g each, I have a feeling it's going to go up to about 30g roughly by the time the patch is out. Lotus is going to go down to about 30 because of the new vendor and the 50% droprate increase being added to Herbalism.

My advice, if you can find Orbs cheap, buy them. Throw them on an alt / guild bank

Ive got a couple of hundred lying around. I was saving them up for when the next expando pack comes out to get some quick skillups in my tradeskills.