Hi everyone,
looking at changing my 3 ele shaman to DK's.
i can see unholy spec in the compendium but no blood?
This is for pve dps, can anyone donate any perfected blood dps or point me in the right direction to find them?
Thanks
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Hi everyone,
looking at changing my 3 ele shaman to DK's.
i can see unholy spec in the compendium but no blood?
This is for pve dps, can anyone donate any perfected blood dps or point me in the right direction to find them?
Thanks
I'm assuming this is for DPS.
So, you'll want to include a Runic Power Dump ability in the rotation, as the fall-through.
And adjust the commas (timing) of the abilities in your rotation, for regular Runic Power dumps.
The ideal will be to have the fall-through go off after you have enough power for the ability, but before you reach 100%.
You'll need to tinker to get there.
As far as abilities...
You have two runes each, of Blood, Frost and Unholy.
The first two runes you use, refresh 10 seconds later.
The next four runes you use, refresh 8 seconds later.
A GCD is 1.5 seconds.
So...
If you start with a Blood rune, it will refresh.
(10.00 / 1.50 = 6.65 casts later).
B, F, U, B, F, U...
So you will want two Runic Power dumps before it attempts to call your first rune again.
Chances are, you'll pick the highest DPS abilities.
Instead of the highest threat abilities.
I'm not really going to be much help on specifics.
Since I don't have a DK aside from one on the other faction.
For neutral AH transactions.
I found this on a wiki site. It's for 3.2 so be sure to test it.
Code:/castsequence reset=combat/target/6 Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Death Coil, Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, Death Coil, Death Coil
/cast !Rune Strike
most dk rotations go off a 20 second rune usage with a runic power dump at the end of ten seconds. Often times you'll have attacks that miss or get dodged /parried, and this throws off your WHOLE CAST sequence, click macros dont work very well because of the way runes come back in a different fashion. If you're gung ho for blood spec i suggest you set up all your keybinds as if you were playing solo on one dk, this is how i have my bar set up for basic dps I'll offer you up two cast sequences, one for unholy, and one for blood. You gotta keep in mind however, that different specs can cause very different rotations. I suggest looking up the spec info and adjusting cast sequence pressing as per the rotations you find. Go to www.elitistjerks.com go to the dk threads there, there will be basic information in the blood dps and unholy dps threads, with links to the talent calculators for each builds and will be of great help setting things up /learning your dks
for blood my bars are set up like this
1 icy touch
2 plague strike
3 heart strike
4 death strike
5 blood boil
caps lock - death coil
your basic cast sequence will go like this : icy, plague, heart strike *2, deathstrike. thats the first 10 second. After this you should be able to either cast dancing rune weapon or 2 death coils.
the second part of your rotation will go like this : heart strike *4 icy, plague then dump 2 more death coils
For unholy its the same set up depending on your spec
i use glyph of disease on my dks to re-apply my diseases, as its much easier to manage keeping them up instead of lining up my rune cooldowns.
1 icy touch
2 plague strike
3 blood strike
4 scourge strike
5 blood boil
E - death and decay
capslock - death coil
Q pestilence
Shift+Q blood boil(just for easy access)
the basic cast sequence here will be icy, plague, 2 blood strike, scourge strike, then either cast your gargoyle(for boss fights) or 2 death coils. the second part depending on your spec is going to go
scourge strike, scourge strike, pestilence, blood strike then 2 death coils to dump runic power
keep in mind if you miss dodge or parry on any attacks then the rune refreshes a second or two later, and you dont get runic power for the miss. this WILL throw a cast sequence off if you include a runic power ability inside the macro. For this reason i'd set up a cast sequence macro up to the death coil, and just have another button for death coil.
click macro's really dont work much for dks unfortunately, because you actually CARE about what attacks land first, and dont want the random pewpew that the click macro offers.
at least thats my opinion. I have my druid tank macro on every single button pretty much, and i control from him and play my dks as if i were playing them solo, pressing my buttons in the cast sequence :)
1 2 3 3 4 caps caps 4 4 3 Q caps caps Is pretty much my standard push of buttons :D
I suppose the click will work better then, once you are hit and expertise capped.
Then you never "miss" because of the hit.
And are never "parried or dodged" because of the expertise.
I wonder if mobs "block" your attacks?
In pvp, the numbers are different.
Because some classes have hit reduction talents.
if you're looking for one button spam dps, then i suppose a cast sequence or click macro would work, i guess i really dont understand how the click macro is supposed to work, given the timing of everything. Its far easier just to set up your bars as if you were playin your dks solo, and just do it that way tho.
really, if you're only doing 3 dks i dont see the advantage of playing with a one button spam, you'd need at least two (one for rune abilities, one for runepower abilities) so you dont lock up your macros. besides the realestate i dont know what you'd want one button spam for anyway, its boring as hell lol :)
From MY own experience, i've become an insanely good dk player BECAUSE i set my stuff up the way i did, because it forces you to know your rotations and how things work lol
EDIT: for what you're looking for koltimar's macro will work for you provided you never miss dodge parry or get blocked. keep in mind, however, that if you dont have runic power for whatever reason and come to a deathcoil in that macro it WILL hang up and get stuck, which is why i suggest separating two keys , one for the runes one for the runic power :)
. Given that you're using a pally tank and druid healer + your 3 dps one button spamming will work just fine. just a suggestion tho, if you're looking for a spec that might be more heroic friendly, try going frost/blood two hander spec, with rune tap + glyph. armory moocrewC/moocrewA on azgalor server to see two variations of the spec, one is more pvp oriented(moocrewA) the other moocrewC is to provide the haste buff for your group and is almost exactly the same just a few points shifted around in the frost portion. I use this on my 3 dks, and albeit i dont use a click macro or cast sequence, its a very good spec which offers aoe cc, HUGE aoe dmg, good single target dmg, AND the party heal which comes in VERY handy :) good luck with it!
im currently using unholy click macros, single dps and multiple target dps with single target dps talents.
the performance is outstanding but its unholy, would prefere blood for later when i start farming again.
i will take a look at above advice and see what formula i can put together.
Thanks everyone, if you got more stuff for blood dk's then im happy to see it.
Click is basically...
Pick several abilities you'd like to use, usually that are on a cooldown or tick for a duration.
Insert enough commas, according to your consistent spam speed...
So that the ability is not called again, until its available or done.
And then have a fall-through spell (or Runic Power dump, in a DK's case) at the end.
Which is cast, when everything else is on cooldown.
Essentially...
You are calling several different spells at once.
But in a priority sequence, where the first spell fires off ahead of the second, if both are ready.
And determining with commas in a castsequence the timing until they fire off again.
Click works, when you have spells on different cooldowns, so a sequence will eventually break.
Also, if your spells have cast times, click removes your latency from the equation (1x latency instead of 2x your latency).
boxblizzard, can i ask why the push for blood dps? Unholy proves much higher dps with pets and such given current gear levels
popular choice by most, im stillusing unholy and havnt turned back. if it keeps up the performance i may not change at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghonosyph
I recently helped a friend (who one-boxes).
Made him a click macro, based off of Stealthy's Unholy Click macro.
He has asked for help with a Blood based click macro.
I don't play a DK, and am not overly familiar with the class either.
But, he wants to be DPS and Blood, and use a click type macro.
im in the same situation but i hear unholy dps with single target dps talents work equal if not better over blood due to the recent improvements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ualaa
im sticking with unholy atm im impressed with it. my new dk's are 76 now
I'd probably go Unholy too...
I like the idea of 5x Pets, running around persistently, along with 5x DK's.
But my buddy, is looking for something to use in ICC-25 raids.
And wants to go Blood.
He basically picked four things he uses as Blood, and went with Death Coil as the fall-through because Rune Strike has +threat.
Then we tweaked the commas for him.
I have no clue if his abilities are a good rotation or not, but his dps vs the level 83 target dummy in IF is higher then prior to click, so he's happy with it.