Community and Multiboxing

I am a little bit wondering about the current attitude of the community considering multiboxing. It seems to me, many people dislike multiboxing, and some even hate those who do it. I very often get whispers like "you got no life, did you?" or "need 5 chars to beat one, dont you?" or "youve got too much money, didnt you?". Even if i try to explain that i got a job, and 5 accounts are not that expensive, and that i am mainly a pve multiboxer, noone listens and they keep on their stereotypes.

Other stereotypes:

"Are going to sell your toons once they are 80, arent you?`"
"Are you a china farmer?"

Most times i keep a civil tongue on answering. And i explain what i play. Patient. Peacefully. And often, the same people tend to repeat the same stereotypes.

Do you get the same kind of response in your realms community?

U'll get those comments often, u just gotta move along. Keep in mind that most are young kids, for whom 15bucks is a gold mine. Very little ammounts of people will whisper u for actually hating u, they simply whisper or say what they are thinking at that moment, due to many reasons.

The other day i was seeing a retard on youtube, saying that chinese farmers will often multibox with several chars, so that the income is more. Thing is, i never saw a boxer that was chinese or with intentions of selling the chars. Anyways, what matters is that theres too many videos like that one appointing to multiboxing as a source of making profit, retards see them and presto.

Also, everyone thinks a 5 boxers has 5 computers, and the best ones, like 2k each machine... And paying 65€ per month for 5 accounts is sooo much... Only takes to buy 2 DVD's or a PS3 game, that can give u around 6 or 7 hours of entertainment to spend the same ammount.

Just keep in mind that ur doing what u like because u want and u can. Some people don't even understand what u are doing and still say sh!t.

I just ignore any negative comments I get from people. 9 times out of 10 they are just jealous poor children who would box anyway if they could afford it. Its not worth trying to explain your motives to someone who is incapable of generating $45 a month.
The only arguement I have ever used in response to people is that it is cheaper to have 5 wow accounts than it is to have a good sky tv package. With that said there are a few boxers on my server and I very rarely even get noticed.

Most of the reactions I have been receiving lately have been suprisingly positive. I've had several people ask questions, want to know how difficult it is, how do I manage all the toons at the same time, etc.

I did have one person stop and ask me if I was a chinese gold farmer. My Response : " We've tried farming chinese gold, but we can't tell the difference between it and regular gold." He laughed, wished me the best of luck leveling 5 toons at the same time, waved, and went on his way :p

If someone gets really obnoxious, just ignore them. Seems to be the best policy.

There is the old stand bys. To the selling chars, "How come you know so much about selling toons, did you buy yours?" To no life or money, "Everyone has a hobby." To the you need multiple toons to play, "I like to do _______ and most people are idiots." In BGs in general, "I just capped __________, what did you do to help?" That is my new one, it shuts them right up, since they are most likely HKers that just run around. Or worse leave places undefended.

For me, anything <2 words is just ignored. Any more than 4 messages of hate gets an /ignore. Any real questions get answered by "90% of it is /assist and /follow". If they something nice, I tell them more "You can use a key broadcaster to send keys from one WOW to another." The nicer they are, the more info they get.

To be honest really, a lot of the time people are just asking what the hell is going on...

I have only had the one hater who thought I was botting because I had 5 toons with similar names...

A lot of the times when I am in IF or SW, Powerwar is also there with his 5 box team and people are kinda amazed really that there are all these toons with similar names... then we start doing fun stuff like jumping and spells and buffs and people are like whoa.

But yeah, if they are nice and ask all the right questions, they get detailed answers...

/dnd No, I don't want to group, I don't want gold, I'm not cheating and I'm not for sale. Real questions answered after the beep. Beep..

I used to get a lot of hate aswell a year ago, but now i get most comments in Battlegrounds.

And since i can pretty much say that i personally can turn a losing AV into a winning AV, without being cocky. This results in more "Yeah, little is here, let's win!" then people crying, hating and whatever.

I however like to start an endless discussion with a brainless kid who thinks i'm a chinese farmer, i really enjoy it. :>

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Originally Posted by Littleburst

I however like to start an endless discussion with a brainless kid who thinks i'm a chinese farmer, i really enjoy it. :>

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haha

I tend to get more welcoming responses and questions on how to do it on my realm. There are haters of course but I explain that I just do it for fun and love to level alts; if they persist then I just tell them to have fun reporting me.

I love the “How do you clone your toons like that?” and “Why wont they talk to me?” remarks :P

On Kul Tiras EU I've gotten nothing but thumbs up sofar. Ppl tend to be amazed when u move around and make nice patterns:) I've been on KT for long now and been in great guild solo and the ppl you know like what you do. For the ppl that question what you're doing: It's their agony and I hope they get acidburn:)

I love it!

I tend to just ignore those who think negatively about our hobby. For those who are actually interested in learning, I tell them what I can in a few lines and then do the normal "visit dual-boxing.com to find out more". Being on a PvE realm I've not had to put up with griefers from the opposite faction, and personally I think that has helped me a ton. Most of the time however, I get the "how did you get mirror images as <insert non-mage class here>" or "oh thats cool, I bet its hard".

Nothing but interested and/or amused reactions so far, except for the one guy in AV on the weekend.

Guy: "3 boxing shammies, huh?"
Me: "Yep."
Guy: "That's neat."
Guy: "Also super gay."

Ooookay :p

tbh... the majority of whispers I get are positive. I get the occasional £40.00 per month is expensive, from some pubescent kiddie. I then proceed to totally blow thier minds by expaining that its cheaper than my other hobby, as I have just spent £3,000 on a digital SLR and lens (D700 and 24-70 2.8f - if anyone wants to know :P )

99.9% of my interaction with folks is positive. In fact I am sure I get more positive feedback when I am boxing vs. playing solo. Simple reason, most negative comments are in PUGs :)

In BG I am sure the opposing faction is saying bad things about me. I remember I was defending a shop in WG with one other guy we were doing a great job jabbing back and forth. A few minutes later he is on general chat venting about a boxer on the horde side.

If someone says anything negative I just do not respond but honestly those instances are very rare for me.

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tbh... the majority of whispers I get are positive. I get the occasional £40.00 per month is expensive, from some pubescent kiddie. I then proceed to totally blow thier minds by expaining that its cheaper than my other hobby, as I have just spent £3,000 on a digital SLR and lens (D700 and 24-70 2.8f - if anyone wants to know :P )

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LOL, I know what you mean, Multiboxing is a drop in the bucket to what I've spent on just research into building my first Ultra lite. Now that is a hobby. :D

Stephen

I find that folks who "hate" multiboxing to various degrees usually fall into 4 groups:

1. Low-budget people/kids to whom $75US plus a computer capable of multiboxing is a lot of money.
2. People without the imagination to grok why doing something different like this might be fun for some people.
3. People who have worked long and hard on their solo toons to be able to run heroics/raids, only to see a multiboxer who didn't work all that hard (didn't have to PuG or fight for a guild raid slot) running around in T9/Relentless and are jealous/envious. (Also, see (1) above.)
4. People who just got totally owned by a multiboxer in PVP.

Really, of those, #1 is the only one that is a rational reason. And even then, it isn't fully thought through. ;)

I've had a few hate tells and "reported" threats, but most people don't really seem to care on my server.

I created 5 paly's on Brim Batol EU to join in on the fun there. I had one guy say: "Do I really need to report you?"

I just added him to my ignore list.

But for me its very rare to encounter people who hate or don't understand.

Often its like:

"multiboxing nice" and "Lol, why 5 druids??" (I should have a standard reply in for that hehe)

1 race/class = full group for instances.

Funny thing, after boxing for almost 2 years now on Thunderhorn-eu, one would think people are used to it now.
Only during the last holidays we'd get some nerdrage from kiddies.
Shame they put me on ignore when i whisper them: you'll let me know what the gamemaster told you, right?

I get very little comments now, and they are mostly positive. My server has a very strong majority of Horde, and I'm playing Alliance, so most people cannot comment anyway. I have quite often Hordies starting nice emote-communication in Dalaran.

And the haters ? I reply if they are somehow polite, otherwise I start my multi-characters macro quoting GM posts about multiboxing being legal, and inviting them to report me if they think I'm doing anything wrong.

People hate being ignored more than anything. As in real life, people like the satisfaction of eliciting a reaction from you. Unless they send me a polite tell with a specific question or compliment, they get nothing.

I get a lot off /w on my server Terokkar-EU asking IF am a GameMaster, how u do that? not much hate but even solo playing back in BC i used to get hate /w as i had really good gear, i just say this is what i do and like it.

I've had good replies so far. This hobby is cheaper than beer and hookers. umm well, gets calculator, throws calculator out the window... gotta go, someones at the door with beer. :)

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Originally Posted by rocnroll

I've had good replies so far. This hobby is cheaper than beer and hookers. umm well, gets calculator, throws calculator out the window... gotta go, someones at the door with beer. :)

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Funny... my other hobby is brewing beer :D

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Originally Posted by mikekim

tbh... the majority of whispers I get are positive. I get the occasional £40.00 per month is expensive, from some pubescent kiddie. I then proceed to totally blow thier minds by expaining that its cheaper than my other hobby, as I have just spent £3,000 on a digital SLR and lens (D700 and 24-70 2.8f - if anyone wants to know :P )

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Originally Posted by F9thRet

LOL, I know what you mean, Multiboxing is a drop in the bucket to what I've spent on just research into building my first Ultra lite. Now that is a hobby. :D

Stephen

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My hobby is trying to build beowulf clusters and Computer and Network security...

Pshh network security, beowulf cluster :) I got a 5 box team at home... 5 kids!
Now that is an expensive hobby :P

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On Kul Tiras EU I've gotten nothing but thumbs up sofar. Ppl tend to be amazed when u move around and make nice patterns:) I've been on KT for long now and been in great guild solo and the ppl you know like what you do. For the ppl that question what you're doing: It's their agony and I hope they get acidburn:)

I love it!

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Hey, Im on KT EU aswell :D Hope to se you around!

/Rajk

The vast majority of people either don't seem to notice the three troll casters that look exactly the same with the exact same gear, or they run past on their mount and do a sudden 180, stopping to look at me for a few seconds, and then going on their way.

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Pshh network security, beowulf cluster :) I got a 5 box team at home... 5 kids!
Now that is an expensive hobby :P

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so does the /follow macro work on them? :p

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so does the /follow macro work on them? :p

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I'd rather have a stop/pause broadcasting key with 5 kids :p

So far, in my short 2 months, I've either gotten much love, or the "what a waste of money/time" comments.

My standard reply:

"Cheaper than golf....."

The cost angle was from the WoW forum troll's attempts to demonize MBing, when Blizzard came out and said MBing was perfectly fine. It's butthurt, ignore it. I'm an adult who makes enough in two hours to more than pay for this- and I have far more expensive hobbies, I have a Nikon D1X that is NOT cheap to feed with lenses and memory cards and flashes and filters and...anyone who has a DSLR understands THAT addiction. :)

I also play guitar. Game over. A decent guitar is 2-3k.

I also buy things like Adobe's Creative Suite, that was an expensive one, but worth it, because my freelance work paid for it. Most of the people who throw the money angle at you, probably pirate all of their software.

But, the tide turned, the endless forum QQ threads have died off, and on my server, Draenor, there's several teams now. One has a team named after the guys in KISS, and had them set up on the stairs in Dalaran with totems out, and he was getting a lot of positive attention. (I told him to come here - if you're here - yo dude!) There's a 4-boxer on the Horde side, I see his Taurens around all the time.

The last time I got a whisper at all, was from a guy who wanted to see me kill something, and was jazzed about it.

People on Draenor are too busy attacking a player called Magicvan in /Trade to waste time attacking us MBers (He's our server rock star, he's spent so much time trolling chat, everyone knows who he is).

Sometimes I sit in Dalaran when I'm bored and wait for random people to start hating. I find it kinda fun to mess with them. I also set up funny macros that make me look like a RPer, which will sometimes really set people off.

One person whispered "lol multiboxing loser huh?"
I responded "Hey, my parent's basement is awesome!"
They responded "plz don't talk to me anymore, kthx"

Ahhh, idiots...

Regardless from the trolling, the 75 euro a month is only a part from the cost. If you would start now with a fresh 5 box team you 70*5 for the 3 sets. With 5 gamecards that's another 150. Which is 500 in total. Though you are good for 3 months. 75*9 or 675 for the rest of the year,means you are going towards 1200 for the first year. That is if your comp can run it. A ram upgrade here, a gpu upgrade there, or a new keyboard/mouse to run all your macro's, a screen, ... and you'll be close to the 1500 range, which is in western europe a monthly income for most people. Not to mention that you'll need 5x cata 'soon'.

So yeah to a certain extend i understand people find multiboxing very expensive. The more cause most don't want to give up another hobby.

So in a way 'money buys power' is true :)

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Originally Posted by Dramoth

My hobby is trying to build beowulf clusters and Computer and Network security...

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I actually understand that and have to ask, "Is that a hobby or obsession?" :) Now, if you can run WoW on a beowulf cluster, that would be awesome.

I get whispers all of the time also, usually its about my title, multiboxing or size. Alot of it is flaming and the typical mbox hate whispers. IMO it is quite amusing :)

My all time favourite (from 7 or 8 months ago).

First one (WoWScrnShot_072909_165432.jpg) shows the level of education that the wow community (at least AV on bloodlust) has.

And the second (WoWScrnShot_072509_213220.jpg) DEFINITELY shows the level of education that the wow community (on aforementioned battle group) has :)

Sorry for the attachment post. For the life of me I can't figure out how to post "in-line"

I've had a pretty positive response with my 4 Drood team. More so recently with the Random dungeon tool. I think people like the fact that them being there won't make or break the dungeon being beaten. A lot of the time, I could do the dungeons by myself.

There have been a few times where I was grouped with some one I had been with before, and they told me stuff along the lines of "At least I know we'll win." Haha.

And like was said earlier. Your money. Do what you want with it because you can.