whats the best dual-box program?

i'm actualy using the ISBoxer suite, and playing 3 mages, but i want to know wat's the best, because i don't really like the isboxer, or if is best than i know i wish someone teach me some tricks or secrets :P, i don't like the isboxer because i can only cast spells on my action bars, and mages got a lot of skills, i also don't like that i need to start a quest with all of then, and not 1 click to start to all, and i want to know how can I turn them all at once:confused: because when I get attacked from behind i have problems to cast spell, only the character that i'm controlling turn, and the others are standing with his back to the creature, btw i'm a new user don't call me noob please, i just started to boxing 3 days ago, and I'm still having many difficulties:(
I heard about the keylonce, but do not want to test because I have to pay, I wonder if anyone has tested them both, and wich one preffered, and ofcourse, why?
btw, i saw a shaman box with 5 of then, and when the player did something all the shaman stacked, and when he did another thing 4 of them were wrapped in a box as a one on each side, is that another program? how he did that?

thanks:)

ISBoxer is the best that I have used, and I have used almost everything. You should search for Ualaa's post on ISBoxer and read it. All of it. It will make ISBoxer make a lot more sense. Otherwise you will hate it. Riding a bike is easy, if you don't mind going 22 m.p.h. Learning to drive a car is a bit more involved but you open up a lot more options.

I´ve tried autohotkey, keyclone and Isboxer. Isboxer is the best by far, but its a bit more complicated.... i gotta confess that i almost dropped isboxer off because is just couldn´t get things to work, but then i read ualaa´s guide and everthing went easier.... thogh it took me maybe 4-5 days to get everything working on isboxer (hotkeys, getting the logics of FTL setup, mouse repeater regions (amazing for healing) etc...).

I've only used IsBoxer a little, but from what I have seen here LAX is superb in his customer support. If after reading through the posts, you are still stumped, there are multiple ways to get a hold of him (I believe he is on IRC as well).

thanks, i've read a bit of ualaa's manual, i'm sure isboxer is really good, but i need to study some more because it's really comlicated at the beggining but everything i questasked before, was answered by ualaa's manual

I thought the same about ISBoxer I was just confused it did not seem very intuitive to me and I consider myself very techy.

Once you get it down it makes so much sense you can not imagine why there was such a learning curve.

I have used keyclone, autohotkey, and ISBoxer. While all are excellent applications I have stuck with ISBoxer for 2 main reasons:

1. It is really configurable but has a GUI to help.
I found keyclone very good for learning and I have friends that swear by it but when I wanted some more configurability I tried autohotkey. I found autohotkey excellent for configuration but your scripts could get complicated quickly and I found difficult to manage.
ISBoxer, once you understand it, is just what I need.

2. Support.
I had good experiences with Keyclone and he was very professional.
I can't comment on autohotkey because I didn't place any support call.
On the weekend I had an issue with turning on and off keymaps for Druid Eclipse casting and Lax was available and very helpful. It was "above and beyond" level of support.

Just my 0.02

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ISBoxer is best, hands down. It also requires a paid subscription to use past 7 days.

That said, most of your problems are agnostic of solution...

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i'm actualy using the ISBoxer suite, and playing 3 mages, but i want to know wat's the best, because i don't really like the isboxer, or if is best than i know i wish someone teach me some tricks or secrets :P,

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This we can do, teaching is good.

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i don't like the isboxer because i can only cast spells on my action bars, and mages got a lot of skills,

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This issue is software agnostic, any multicasting app will suffer from this issue.

You can cast spells on action bars, utilizing macros, or even from your spellbook if you want to. Action bars and h otkeys are by far the best way to accomplish this. I'd recommend looking into Bartender 4 and adding some extra bar realestate... Or turn on the extra bars in the default UI and bind keys to them.

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i also don't like that i need to start a quest with all of then, and not 1 click to start to all,

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This issue is software agnostic, any multicasting app will suffer from this issue.

Jamba is your solution here, it's a free addon.

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and i want to know how can I turn them all at once:confused: because when I get attacked from behind i have problems to cast spell, only the character that i'm controlling turn, and the others are standing with his back to the creature,

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This issue is software agnostic, any multicasting app will suffer from this issue.

Keymaps, repeater profiles, etc. Generally people use /follow macro's and "drag" them where they need to face. takes practice, but you pick it up fast enough.

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btw i'm a new user don't call me noob please, i just started to boxing 3 days ago, and I'm still having many difficulties:(

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Noob!

Seriously, it's OK to be a noob. We all were at some point.

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I heard about the keylonce, but do not want to test because I have to pay, I wonder if anyone has tested them both, and wich one preffered, and ofcourse, why?

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I have used AutoHotKey, Keyclone, Innerspace, and Innerspace with ISBoxer extensively. I've touched on AutoHotKey a little. Out of all of them ISBoxer makes the setup the easiest, gives you the best performance and power, and overall is the best application.

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btw, i saw a shaman box with 5 of then, and when the player did something all the shaman stacked, and when he did another thing 4 of them were wrapped in a box as a one on each side, is that another program? how he did that?

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Formation macro's. I'd not worry about this until you have /follow and your general DPS woes figured out. Basically you setup 1 key to send different keystrokes to all your characters. Press it and they spread out, press a different key and they either move back or /follow.

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thanks:)

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NP.

software agnostic.... I am not sure I have ever seen that word used in that manner.

I have always used agnostic to mean unwillingness to commit to an opinion or that the idea of God or a Supreme Being is unknowable or non-existence .

Zanthor, Thank you for your attention, you've clarified many doubts I had, and , i'm now "studying" the ualaa's guide, is a very complex program, but I'm learning with the time.

I just wanted a guide in Portuguese, my English is not as good, and many things take me too long to understand

for your quest problem, use jamba

personally I love HKN and I hope Mojo will be even better and more suitable for people who don't want to write scripts

It's all a matter of preference. I personally use KeyClone in conjunction with HotKeyNet. I plan to completely stop using KeyClone once I have my HKN script finished.

As far as I know, you can replicate most things that ISBoxer can do in either HKN or AutoHotkey if you take the time to learn the scripting. The only reason I don't use ISBoxer is because I don't want to pay another subscription on top of my multiple WoW subscriptions.

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I just wanted a guide in Portuguese, my English is not as good, and many things take me too long to understand

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I´m brazilian, i think i can help you eheheh.

te mandei uma mensagem em MP.

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It's all a matter of preference. I personally use KeyClone in conjunction with HotKeyNet. I plan to completely stop using KeyClone once I have my HKN script finished.

As far as I know, you can replicate most things that ISBoxer can do in either HKN or AutoHotkey if you take the time to learn the scripting. The only reason I don't use ISBoxer is because I don't want to pay another subscription on top of my multiple WoW subscriptions.

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I´m sure you can replicate most things on other programs, but in my opinion the subscription for isboxer is worth only for its repeater regions and mouse broadcasting. Oh, and you wont be bothering about wrinting scripts or macros ingame (well, at leat not as heavily as on keyclone/hkn, etc).

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I´m brazilian, i think i can help you eheheh.

te mandei uma mensagem em MP.

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yes i'm brazillian :P, (sim sou brasileiro :P)

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software agnostic.... I am not sure I have ever seen that word used in that manner.

I have always used agnostic to mean unwillingness to commit to an opinion or that the idea of God or a Supreme Being is unknowable or non-existence .

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http://m-w.com/dictionary/Agnostic

A person unwilling to commit to an opinion about something.

It would appear that myself, and a significant portion of the tech industry is abusing this word. For it's not that we lack opinion (god no, we have opinion) but are aspiring to create methods that will work across platforms, software, etc.

I admit that I haven't tried all the software out there... but I have thoroughly enjoyed using Game Commander Pro (http://www.gamecommanderpro.com/).

The commands/keybindings don't have to relate to your hotbar bindings at all. And a really neat thing about it, is that GCP understands a group's "sub-roles"... tank, healer, dps. You can assign toons to each of these roles. And you can switch your healers to the dps sub-role, and visa-versa... casting different spells depending upon their role.

It offers so much more... check it out ;)

With bartender, or other bar add-ons, you can easily stick a spell/action on a button, hotkey the button and hide the bar or button. This should serve your purpose.

I currently use Keyclone, it works for me.

I will try out ISBoxer at some point, but at first glance it seemed onerous to migrate to, especially across multiple computers, so I temporarily shied away from it. It looks good though.