Horde or Alliance?

Horde or Alliance?
If you had the chance to pick the Horde or the Alliance, without friends or guilds swaying you, which would you choose? I've played Horde for a few years and I could use a change of scenery. The Horde seem to have a lot more territory to sneak around in on a PVP server which would make those areas come to life. But I do like Org and UC as lot.

PVP or PVE?
Having played on a PVE server for years I find it to lack a certain amount of spice. Looking over my shoulder and wonder if I'm going to get ganked/attacked certainly adds spice to exploring and questing. I still have very fond memories of doing a warlock quest on the Alliance side, having to sneak, for the first time, into the Barrens. Very exciting to say the least!

Going to Ratchet as an Alliance doesn't mean anything on PVE. But going in as PVP is very dangerous and I've been lucky to get out without being killed half a dozen times.


What Server and Population?
I'm from California and want at least a Pacific server so I can interact with more players. Population-wise Medium is better than full because of long waiting times. Balance between Horde and Alliance is important I think. If I'm an Alliance who has the majority population do the Horde gank a lot more or is it safer in that respect? Would there be a reason to be in the Horde outnumbered 3:1 by the Alliance?

Gender?
I've always had female players because their nicer to look at. Although when I start my five "man" group of dwarves the paladin will be a dude because male dwarves are cool. The backup shaman will be lady dwarves.

Race?
The starting area influences me most on this. But how the femail players look comes up second.

For the Alliance!


Human Diplomacy
Heroic Presence

I just transferred to Kil'Jaeden(its PST) to run with more active boxers, so far it's been pretty awesome. It's high pop but I haven't seen any ques yet.

I've played horde on 3 servers and alliance on two. My experience has been that trade and zone chats on alliance have had a much higher "Anal [Skullflame Shield]" quotient than horde. I do miss the overpopulated alliance faction's AH, though. Having access to cheap items and mats 24/7 is quite handy.

i like being against the most populated side, gives me more to kill ;)

Also on Kil'Jaeden Alliance, it is a good server with the most active BG i think.

good place to be for a multiboxer, since theres a bunch of us here already.

look up anyone in Legion of Boom while you are on and say Hi =)

well alliance seem to have a lot younger amount of players more anal this and that
horde--- they all think they are the best for unknown reasons, every single raid for pve has "pst stats+achieve or u /ignore you" i dont mind because i dont pve much, and I got the achieves, but my friend /quit wow because he doesnt have the achieve for uludar so no one will let him go... o and gearscore lol but multiboxers dont have this prob much as they can get nice gear from heroic badges

Go alliance and come to Daggerspine I need another boxer there! Its PVP, you can go what ever you want, i have an all Draenai team cause I love those guys, remind me of the Galka in FFIX. 1 pally, 3 shaman, and a priest.

It seems the horde have better pvp racials.
But the human pve faction racial is big.

If you have no friends on the server, and are starting from scratch...
Well I picked alliance four years ago, in that situation.
But the choice is yours.

PvE vs PvP server is probably the single largest consideration.

You can go to a site which tracks population.
If world PvP is a goal, you'd want to be on a server with 40% of the population as your faction.
That way, you're not automatically steamrolled always.
But there will always be a good number of players to attack.

If you go PvE as a focus, and are into raiding, you'll want a large population of your own faction.
Which will mean more guilds that raid content.

Either server, you'll want a healthy market.
Where you can make a decent amount on an epic/rare you find.
But where it doesn't kill you to buy things while leveling up.

Or you can just pick a server, select randomize for race/appearance.
And go with what it gives you.

Ive been horde since day one, I have tried Alliance a couple of times but just cant do it.

PvP is nice in theory, I started on a PvP server, but when you cant finish your dailys without being killed 20 times by people in way better gear then you and when your alt gets smashed and camped by a bored level 80 it starts to lose its luster. I have switched to PvE and am quite happy there now.

Server pops I go for high enough to stay at high but not to get full.

Gender depends on race, Horde side I play males on everything except for Belfs. I just feel that they look better. My 5x Belf Pally team will be all girls, but my Mages, Hunters, Druids are all Male. If I played Alliance
Females - Nelf, Human, Draenei
Male - Dwarf, Gnome (Gnomes could go either way)

I typically play troll these days, hardly anyone plays them (Check out WoW census) and I kinda like them so any new toon I roll will be a troll if possible and hence Male based on aesthetic reasons above.

When Vanilla wow came out it was Horde for me, no question about that.
When I looked at the original race selection, I could really only imagine playing Nelf on the Ally side, but both Orc, Tauren and especially Undead intrigued me on the Horde side.

However if I had to pick today I would choose Alliance, this is basically because now Alliance has Draenei and soon Worgen, 2 races that I really like.
Basically Draenei is you insta classic multiboxing setup /paladin/shammy).
I have always liked Taurens but sorry Worgen is the no 1 beastie race for me now (I love dogs, what can I say) :)

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Originally Posted by Marious

Go alliance and come to Daggerspine I need another boxer there! Its PVP, you can go what ever you want, i have an all Draenai team cause I love those guys, remind me of the Galka in FFIX. 1 pally, 3 shaman, and a priest.

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i know the feeling.....

Alliance -> RP PvP -> female GNOMES (really!).

In reality, I'm Alliance -> PvE -> male Draenai / female NE, but if I was starting over with no influences, that's what I'd do :)

I think it's generally considered truth that horde have a better selection of PvP racials. Yah, the Diplomacy one is nice, but anyone who argues any WotLK rep is hard to raise without it is crazy. So that quickly loses its usefulness. (And this is someone with 40+ exalted reps on a space goat. i.e. no Diplomacy bonus)

That being said, Cata is going to throw our current talents out the window, so who knows where favor will slide.

From a PvP standpoint, horde has better players, since all the strong PvP players have migrated to horde over the years. Alliance generally outnumber the horde, however, so things like Wintergrasp control (at least on my server) has a high alliance success rate. Especially if I'm fighting in it and on vehicle destruction duty /flex :D

So basically... Pick what you like. Racials are going to change, immature/bad players will migrate back and forth. I still like Alliance for everything except for BG success rates. I only hope with the racial change, that some of the better players on the Horde side switch to Alliance, and some of the bads from Alliance switch to Horde to even things out :D

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Originally Posted by ericforsell

Horde or Alliance?
If you had the chance to pick the Horde or the Alliance, without friends or guilds swaying you, which would you choose? I've played Horde for a few years and I could use a change of scenery. The Horde seem to have a lot more territory to sneak around in on a PVP server which would make those areas come to life. But I do like Org and UC as lot.

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I'd say it depends on the server. If I were to choose again I'd try out both horde and alliance on the server of choice, and decide based on the general maturity level. BG's will bring out the worst in people and may serve as a good way to see how friendly and mature people are - at least to some extent, but of course there's always the issue of sample size.

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PVP or PVE?
Having played on a PVE server for years I find it to lack a certain amount of spice. Looking over my shoulder and wonder if I'm going to get ganked/attacked certainly adds spice to exploring and questing. I still have very fond memories of doing a warlock quest on the Alliance side, having to sneak, for the first time, into the Barrens. Very exciting to say the least!

Going to Ratchet as an Alliance doesn't mean anything on PVE. But going in as PVP is very dangerous and I've been lucky to get out without being killed half a dozen times.

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If the only difference between PvP and PvE was whether it's possible to kill the players of the opposite faction, I'd say definitely PvP. However it's not. I've been on a PVP server for most of my time /played and I like that aspect, but what annoys me is the "exploiting" of game elements. People trying to kill you in towns by standing on a roof where the guards can't get to them, but if you shoot back, guards will attack you and stuff like that. Sure, you can do it right back to them, but I've never been able to see the fun in that kind of gameplay. Another annoyance is players of the opposite faction sniping escort quest mobs and stuff like that. It's not gamebreaking in any way, just something to keep in mind.

I started out wow by playing undead mage on anachronos EU. Loved the animations. Diden't like Undercity though.

My friend who got me into wow, was playing horde. I reached lvl 20?25? and then he created a alliance character on another server on Alliance side. I followed, and have stayed on Silvermoon since on alliance.

What I notiched was the AH. Theres way more stuff on alliance side, even though I don't know if this is still the case.

Also, im more into the "holy" stuff than the orc things. But I guess its an individual choice in the end.

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Originally Posted by boxblizzard

i like being against the most populated side, gives me more to kill ;)

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Ya but questing could be almost impossible if the other side is everywhere. And it seems everyone had a care bear friend with them in their 70's.

Course I do enjoy killing off who the carebears are protecting before they get me, over and over. :)

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Originally Posted by Otlecs

Alliance -> RP PvP -> female GNOMES (really!).

In reality, I'm Alliance -> PvE -> male Draenai / female NE, but if I was starting over with no influences, that's what I'd do :)

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Ya I would go female gnomes just to antagonize people. There's plenty of hate for that race.:)

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Originally Posted by Fuzzyboy

I'd say it depends on the server. If I were to choose again I'd try out both horde and alliance on the server of choice, and decide based on the general maturity level. BG's will bring out the worst in people and may serve as a good way to see how friendly and mature people are - at least to some extent, but of course there's always the issue of sample size.

If the only difference between PvP and PvE was whether it's possible to kill the players of the opposite faction, I'd say definitely PvP. However it's not. I've been on a PVP server for most of my time /played and I like that aspect, but what annoys me is the "exploiting" of game elements. People trying to kill you in towns by standing on a roof where the guards can't get to them, but if you shoot back, guards will attack you and stuff like that. Sure, you can do it right back to them, but I've never been able to see the fun in that kind of gameplay. Another annoyance is players of the opposite faction sniping escort quest mobs and stuff like that. It's not gamebreaking in any way, just something to keep in mind.

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I think getting attacked from nowhere is part of the "Fun" but it often happens when I least expect it which can be very annoying. As far as exploits like that, maybe contacting a GM about the roof thing?

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Originally Posted by Seldum

I started out wow by playing undead mage on anachronos EU. Loved the animations. Diden't like Undercity though.

My friend who got me into wow, was playing horde. I reached lvl 20?25? and then he created a alliance character on another server on Alliance side. I followed, and have stayed on Silvermoon since on alliance.

What I notiched was the AH. Theres way more stuff on alliance side, even though I don't know if this is still the case.

Also, im more into the "holy" stuff than the orc things. But I guess its an individual choice in the end.

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Yes the AH is important. I started on Dentarg which has ultra low population, 4,000, and the AH prices were crazy high and there was a bad selection.

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Originally Posted by Svpernova09

For the Alliance!


Human Diplomacy
Heroic Presence

I just transferred to Kil'Jaeden(its PST) to run with more active boxers, so far it's been pretty awesome. It's high pop but I haven't seen any ques yet.

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Well your server fits what I'm looking for. Seems to have about 10,000 players favoring the Alliance slightly. So no waits I assume? The name is hard for a lot of people I'm sure. At this point I would go to this server but I'm not starting up again till
December 09.

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Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz

I've played horde on 3 servers and alliance on two. My experience has been that trade and zone chats on alliance have had a much higher "Anal [Skullflame Shield]" quotient than horde. I do miss the overpopulated alliance faction's AH, though. Having access to cheap items and mats 24/7 is quite handy.

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Ya Alliance is where new players often start, like maybe 20% more. But I like the idea of freaking out the new people with my group. :) Plus I don't need PUGs till doing 10 or more man raids which will have more mature players at those levels.

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Originally Posted by Mokoi

Also on Kil'Jaeden Alliance, it is a good server with the most active BG i think.

good place to be for a multiboxer, since theres a bunch of us here already.

look up anyone in Legion of Boom while you are on and say Hi =)

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Two recommendations for Kil'Jaeden! WOW! Definitely my first choice when I start up again.

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Originally Posted by Marious

Go alliance and come to Daggerspine I need another boxer there! Its PVP, you can go what ever you want, i have an all Draenai team cause I love those guys, remind me of the Galka in FFIX. 1 pally, 3 shaman, and a priest.

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A Draenai was my first choice for my group: 1 Paladin 4 Shaman. Especially after realizing I couldn't have an all Dwarf group.

Your server appears to be more Horde biased, like outnumber by 2:1 or more. How's the other side treating you? Are they everywhere you go ready to gank you?

No other boxers there?! Not that boxers are very social creatures.