http://www.aionsource.com/forum/ques...ggestions.html
^ Link above. Did anyone play with this dude on Zikel?
Rin
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http://www.aionsource.com/forum/ques...ggestions.html
^ Link above. Did anyone play with this dude on Zikel?
Rin
Wow did you see all the negativity in that thread. Everyone was out to hurt this guy and shit wow.
Aion seems to be very multiboxer unfriendly. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
And the company response seems to be ... you are a bot because I have decided you are and you will never change my mind.
I know right i actually posted on that thread just to back the guy up. He boxes i box i felt a need to back up a fellow boxer and lend support even if i dont play that game.
That Fizzi person needs to DIAF....I love self proclaimed geniuses and all around "Social gods".
People have recommended Aion to me but it reminds me of the typical, Korean made game with a bunch of d-bags running around looking for the next circle jerk party of anger/stupidity....
Glad I got to see their public lynch mob response.
Gives a brief overview of the average mentality of a server. Poor at best. Oh well, balls to the wall right away, kinda risky espeically with NCSoft.....but could just be the poor guys style.
Yeah, that's a lot of hate.
Reminds me of LOTRO. People so upset that you didn't need to LFG and the GM's they had were all purist fan boys.
But you could compose your own music! =P Lotro felt like a WoW repackage with EQ2 graphics to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HPAVC
there is a somewhat worrisome quote on that thread that seems to contradict what I got when I self reported/opened a ticket (which was somewhat vague but seemingly indicated it was ok:
http://www.aionsource.com/forum/611300-post109.html
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http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=24946
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorea
Yeah, I saw that too... it seems like NCSoft continues to go back and forth on their feelings towards software multiboxing. On a good day, software multiboxing is allowed; on a bad day, you can be banned for it because ... well, they're NCSoft, bah.
I feel bad for this guy though :-(
Rin
well about the specific of the guy banned - as he hasn't showed up here and isn't long standing/trusted member - we don't know why he was banned - maybe he was botting and then it's good he got banned - or maybe he was truly just boxing and 100% in direct control of all toons and then it sucks... but I don't trust random posts (or maybe he bought gold or whatever else that can get you banned)
I love it how a couple of the people in that thread who "hate" multiboxers admits to running 2 accounts at one time or another in previos games and sees nothing wrong with it. So running 2 accounts is completely allright....but 3 or more will bring an end to the gaming universe. Fricken idiots.
One guy even said that running 9 soc at one time is unfair because he gets to lvl 9 times as fast.:confused:........HEY MORON, its the other way around!!
Botting in Aion is slowly making me no longer want to play. You'll go to a zone (like Brustonin or however it's spelled) and there will be literally 20-30 bots running around (guildless, titleless packs of gladiators or assassins.) I report them whenever I see them, but you only get 10 reports per day and the same people I report are still there a week later. Doesn't feel like NCSoft cares much, and it makes questing hard when all your quest mobs are being botted.
Botting = Gay
Well the email could be faked but the email he posts from NCSuck states they tried to verify his toon several times and determined he was botting and that is why the banned him. Again it could be fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorea
I was thinking about taking a break from WOW and boxing Aion but the more I read about Aion the less I want to play. Lin2 was so horrible I never wanted to give NCSuck my money again anyways.
On a sidenote I love all the people who say you need to game "normally" or the way the game is "designed" etc
I also love all the hate and idtiots. All those DIAF posts just made me realize even more why I like boxing so much. Because instead of five incompetant boobs in a group now there is only one!!!!
That clinches it - No Aion for me...
I prefer botters to gay basher - mods please delete that post (and mine)Quote:
Originally Posted by Seldum
That thread is laden with the stench of ignorance.
Moorea you know there is a report post button...it would probably work out better to use that than to quote a post a mod may never read.
Due to the ambiguity in his post you may want to ask him what it is he meant by his statement, as the word has 2 very different meanings. No need to play PC police when you could ask the guy directly to remove his post, then report him if he refuses and you still feel he is in the wrong.
I did report the post - and only replied here after the post stayed as is for 24h- and I seriously doubt he meant to say bots are a fun/joyous bunch
This is a multinational bored and he is posting with a sig that lists his EU team, I would talk to him prior to condemning him in public. While I agree with you I would also hope he wouldn't be so brash. The majority of his other posts on the forum are constructive, leading me to believe it may be language conflict and not hatred.
It is a figure of speech for me. Nothing personal hate towards gay people, they are a cool bunch in my world. Im sorry if some of you may find it offensive, this was not my intentions.
What I meant to say is, that botting suck and I don't like bots.
If an admin or forum mod want me to delete and/or change the initial post ill gladly do so.
a bit sensitive are we? i saw no gay bashingQuote:
Originally Posted by Moorea
Botting = playing like a Mexican
That must be legit too, right? I totally agree with Moorea on this point.
Mods, please delete my post too. I'm just hoping to bring an obvious example to those defending using the term "gay" in a deragatory way as acceptable. It doesn't matter if you have 1,000 gay friends, using the term to associate something as being negative is bashing, whether intended or not.
it's an expression of speech used by millions of people....get over it...you are overblowing the situation...
I don't think there was any malice in his post or his intention was to offend anyone. However, that doesn't mean the post shouldn't get deleted. I'm not sure how the logic of millions of people using the expression results in it being acceptable, but I'm sure you can figure that one out yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kopitar
I saw no gay bashing on his part. You are taking his statement and labeling it as gay bashing without any proof. Furthermore everything is offensive to someone somewhere, that does'nt mean that it is wrong or we should refrain from saying it. In all honesty, people need to get over themselves and stop trying to censor the world to fit their perception of right and wrong. Many words have multiple meanings, you just can't pick and chose which one you think he meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorea
You are correct about one thing, you should delete your post since you openly violated the forum rules. You resorted to name calling.
It also doesn't mean it should get deleted? Why do you feel it should be deleted? Because 1 person, chose the meaning for themselves and took it upon themselves to state it was offensive in a general sense. I took no offense from it, I took it for what it was, perhaps everyone else should and just move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Owltoid
When you avoid simple logic, it's hard to have a rational discussion. He used the term "gay" as if it was something negative. It's really not that complicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babysir
My apologies master of all logic. I was unaware that my words were so irrational and illogical, Spock's head must be about to explode from my statements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Owltoid
In case you didn't get it, the above is sarcasm. The only one making it difficult to have a rational discussion is you. You are the one attempting to overtly offend me because you disagree with my opinions. It would be much more beneficial or productive for you to act a bit more mature instead of making such statements as, "When you avoid simple logic, it's hard to have a rational discussion."
Fag is a word with multiple meanings. If i said botting = fag, then I'm sure you would jump and petition for my post to be deleted, because you assume that it's gay bashing. Now fag in the US can also mean a jerk, so my statement could mean botting is being a jerk. Now let's try the UK slang meaning, which is a chore; an arduous and timesome task. I could have then meant botting is a chore. You see how things can take on many meanings. There is nothing wrong with you finding it offensive, you have that right. The issue comes when you want to generalize it for everyone. I didn't find it offensive, but I do find your attempts at censorship offensive. There was no need for either of you to bring this out, the mods have a 'report post' button for a reason. Instead since you did not get your way you bring here, as Moorea admitted.
the good news is when logic fails there is always the ignore button (even though it's burried pretty deep in the UI)
Just to clarify - using terms like 'gay', 'fag', etc in a derogatory fasion are not welcome on this forum for obvious reasons. There are nearly 30000 registered users on DB now, and boxing isn't restricted to straight people only. ;)
It's not a censorship issue, it's about respecting others regardless of their choice of sexuality.
I'm leaving the thread open, since I don't beleive any offense was meant and Seldum was quick to clarify.
Cheers,
Stealthy
quick to clarify yet the post still says "Botting = Gay" I thought it would be obvious by now that simple courtesy to fellow members would mean this post would be edited by now...
You must not have read what Stealthy saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Moorea
If you notice he mentions that using them in a derogatory fashion is not allowed. Since it was not used in such a manner it was not removed. Have you ever thought that perhaps those individuals whom you feel would be offended, simply weren't? Perhaps they took it the statement for what it was and did not make a big deal about it, since it obviously wasn't derogatory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthy
I am offended by it - I see the association to botting as derogatory - anyone within reason would also see that "botting" in a site and community where it's strictly forbidden and is used day in and out as an insult by non boxer toward us would also see it ... but I guess you don't - good for you (or sad for you I should say...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Babysir
Also please reread the part about common courtesy
Last attempt to illustrate:
"Botting == Babysir" get the picture now ?
You are one person, not the world or the whole userbase for this forum. Just because you are offended does not mean it should be removed. The world does not revolve around you. You do not dictacte what action is appropiate for everyone else. As you mentioned earlier, there is always the ignore button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorea
Your point? Should we do everything based on your beliefs? I think not, accept it for what it is and move on. Those that make the rules here and allow us to be here have stated it was not derogatory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorea
Thank you! I take that for what it is, a joke. See there is no need to make a big stink over something so simple. As a user you have every right to report any post you feel is offensive. However, you do not have the right to dictacte policy. As I said earlier the world does not revolve around you. Everyone has different views and had I said botting == you, perhaps you may have found that to be the most offensive thing ever, I don't. It's words over a forum that mean nothing, if I cared about such petty things then I'd have to get upset everytime someone bashes me for boxing. I'm above such childish behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorea
Dear Moorea,
Please stop flogging me.
Best regards,
Dead Horse.
You're being argumentative for agruments sake. I have already posted on why I have left this thread unchanged - end of story.
Cheers,
S.