Anyone got something for this? I used the search function and read most of the click threads, but I didnt find anything. Would appreciate some help!
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Anyone got something for this? I used the search function and read most of the click threads, but I didnt find anything. Would appreciate some help!
Well Im not even sure what a prot warrior rotation would look like as Im pretty new to the class.
I looked at doing a /click, then I realized a couple castsequences would work just fine.
I don't have access to the maco at the moment, something like:
/castsequence Shield Slam, Devastate, Rend, Devastate, Devastate (simple but no rage starvation normally, adjust as needed)
I also have a macro for /Castsequence reset=3 Revenge, Heroic Strike (I am glyphed for a free HS after Revenge)
I manually apply Thunderclap, Shield Bash, Demoshout and Shockwave as needed.
I seem to hold single target agro just fine with this setup. Packs can be a bit tricky I give the tank some more time to build up hate and switch targets to make sure sunders get up on multiple mobs.
Went to EJ forums and they arent helping much. Unlike the paladin forums they dont even have a thread dedicated to newb prot warriors that describs what sequence or priority you will use in tanking.
Offive: is there a reason you dont weave Thunderclap into your castsequence? Seems like it would be good "auto" AoE target threat.
I have 2 I use one for shield block and bash because of the gylph and then a revenge and HS macro. I was going to make a AoE one with thunderclap/shockwave and then cleaves but just haven't gotten around to it. Will post them when maint is over.
TC lasts long enough that it would require a /click to get timing right. I dump rage with more TC and cleave if I have loads to spare. My warrior runs mostly with my single target dps team, when I run him with my shammys it can be an issue if I CL too much to fast. I find that keeping the spam button simple keeps me from unloading too much rage.
I remember having rage issues in the past with high avoidance, not getting hit = no rage in the old days. I think they tweaked this a bit.. but honestly my pally tank is so ez-mode I find the warrior to be a bit fusy so I don't run him as much.
As with anything, personal taste / playstyle and encounters means you get to play with it any way you want. There is no set rule on how you do it, my methods are just starting points. By all means if you really want to tweak out a prot warrior macro go for it! But post it after you do.:D
Here are mine I use the revenge and shield block gylphs
#showtooltip
/castsequence Shield Block, Shield Slam
#showtooltip
/castsequence Revenge, Heroic Strike
Hmm Im thinking of switching out the warrior for Druid tank(already 80) and then making group mage/mage/lock/priest
Or could be mage/shaman/lock/priest Or even Mage/Lock/Lock/Priest
Warrior seems too much micromanagement to be good for MBing.
So its no good to weave in more TCs or do you mean the cooldown prevents you from using it a lot?Quote:
Originally Posted by offive
edit: has 6 sec cooldown and with glyph it can be only 11 rage cost. I wonder how bad it would gimp single target dps if you weave it in more?
editx2: if its affected by Focused Rage then its only 8rage to cast. Hmmm.
editX3: Question for the /click gurus: What Im thinking is switching to two key dpsing spam. key#1 is dps/tank single target, key#2 is dps single target, tank multiple targets. Now if I use Castsequences on tank and /clicks on slaves their dps should not be affected right? Since its calling the same buttons to be clicked(for dpsers).
Pretty much all of the warrior abilities are instant cast, costing 1.5 seconds of GCD.
Your dps will likely be limited by the recast delays or durations, rather then the cast time of their spells.
With a click sequence, you're spamming... usually 2-5 times per second.
The castsequence will just move to each ability/spell along the way as the GCD allows.
The click sequence will work in conjunction just fine, as long as your click speed is consistent with the comma/delays.
I've cleared all Heroics with my warrior apart from Suckulus (bascially I just loath that instance) and I don't find him very micromangement intensive. I am not using any castsequence macros either just use the ability which either comes up, is available or is the best for the current situation.
And holding aggro isn't a problem either even on multiple mobs. The only instance where my pally def. made things easier is the Brann event apart from that he just tanks as good as any other class even from a multiboxing perspective (that's what I think anyway).
Can you tell me what priority I should have in abilities? What rotation do you start off with? I've decided to level him to 80 with the mage and warlock to see what its like, so if it doesnt work at 80... no biggie, I've got other choices for tank.
I understand (mostly) how click and castsequence are different, what Im not positive (but pretty sure) is do different buttons with the following.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ualaa
SpambuttonA / SpambuttonB:
/click button1
/click button2
/click button3
mess up the /click sequence if I move from spambuttonA to spambuttonB(which are functionally identical).
Good start Fursphere, you can make it a bit more powerfull if you take the following into account.
Heroic strike is used after the swing timer resets, so basicly you can do this (dont have the exact macro by hand, but with the heroic strike glyph it doesnt cost any rage which is imba).
/cast revenge
/cast heroic strike
2nd
Cleave can be used to tank multipe mobs like tunderclap. Cleave is like heroic strike in the sense that its a 'on next attack' type of spell.
3. Make macro's for your shieldslam
/cast shieldblock
/cast shieldslam
(something like that, dont have my macro's at work :))
If you where making a warrior macro, I would suggest making 2, one for single boss fights and one for situations with more then 1 mob. If only TC would have like a an effect like consecration and that d&c thingy from dk's :)
Forgot to add, for warriors you really should check out www.tankspot.com great site.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Shield Block (Bloodrage also) does not use the GCD so you can keep it up by dropping /cast Shield Block into your spam.
I was trying to think how to add revenge to my tank spam, what bout this:
Would the commas allow tthe /click to try Revenge incase it's proc'dQuote:
/cast Bloodrage
/cast Shield Block
/click1
/click2
2
/castsequence reset=? Shield Slam,,Devastate,,Devastate,,Devastate
1
/cast Revenge
/cast Heroic Strike
*Problem* Would it always throw Heroic Strike even if Revenge fails?
I like to leave a Shockwave,TC castsequence on a sperate key so I can hit it if the need arises.
As a long time warrior player, I figured I'd toss some of my warrior macros in here - maybe they can be tweaked for your purposes....
#showtooltip [help] Intervene; Charge
/dismount
/cast Bloodrage
/cast [help,stance:2] Intervene; [help,nostance:2] Defensive Stance; [harm,stance:1/2] Charge; [harm,stance:3] Intercept
/cast [target=focus] Taunt; Taunt
#showtooltip
/dismount
/cast [modifier:shift] Spell Reflection; Disarm
#showtooltip Heroic Strike
/startattack
/cast [stance:2] Revenge; [stance:1] Overpower
/cast Heroic Strike
#show Recklessness
/cast Shield Block
/cast [stance:3] Recklessness; Berserker Stance
/cast Defensive Stance
#show Retaliation
/cast [stance:1] Retaliation; Battle Stance
/cast Defensive Stance
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:3] Whirlwind; [modifier:shift]Spell Reflection; Shield Slam
/startattack
/cast Shield Block
Thanks Fur, will give this a try when I get home.
edit: for the shield block can I just throw that it anywhere since it doesnt consume a GCD?
my warrior macros (used for solo play but it should help a bit);
#showtooltip Devastate
/cast bloodrage
/cast Devastate
/startattack
revenge;
#showtooltip Revenge
/cast revenge
/cast heroic strike
/startattack
shieldslam;
#showtooltip Shield Slam
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast shield block
/cast shield slam
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear();
Guess I rate micro management based on the number of keys I have to spam to tank any pack or single mob. With my pally its a single button cast sequence (with RightDef, HoS triggered from a Healbot click) which works fine even for raiding. The warrior is not so simple... that's all. I have not flipped my drood into bear, and I am in the process of leveling some DKs, so I can't really comment on those two for complexity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raskaz
Again, play what you like, have fun!
In heroics you prolly dont have much rage to burn, tanking bosses you have to burn HS, basically the main problem most warriors have with being prot atm (when you check all the forums). Cleave really helps on aoe tanking, few mobs on you your rage should be getting higher, if not lose some gear.
I don't know if it has been mentioned here or not, but going with a simple devastate rotation is probably best. Yes you can open up with Shield block, Shield Slam, TC and SW for AoE and cleave, but for single targets just devastate and SS when the proc goes off. With the right gear devastate does enough dps and threat to keep you well ahead on threat.
On my warrior tank I normally charge in, SB, SM, and devastate on single mobs, or charge, TC, Demo shout, SW and tab-cleave for AoE. I only use revenge on low rage situations. Hope that helps those working out their rotations.
^^ I agree
Since were all boxing, keeping it simple is best. As someone mentioned a warrior is extremely difficult to micromanage compared to a pally. However I have found devastate to be the best rotation as kamsrage mentioned also. I have glyphed sunder armor, and devastate, so it stacks 2 effects per devastate, and hits an extra enemy nearby( Doesn't break CC) It cost me 9 rage to drop, and I never run out of rage using it. I just spam it with a few combat abilities at the end of my castsequence, and it works great.
Mine looks like this
/castsequence reset=combat/target Devastate, Devastate, Devastate, Devastate, Devastate, Shield Slam, Rend, Heroic Strike
I don't ever use cleave, it cost way to much rage, and it only hits one extra mob. Devastate hits 2 mobs, cost 9 rage, and is spammable. Cleave is annoying bc it waits for your next attack to land, and if your spamming other abilties(like I do!) it won't go off. Also the click sequence for warriors is crap, I never liked it, and I don't use it. Just macro it in a castsequence, and give your abilities with timers a second or two extra to ensure you don't get caught waiting for that cooldown.
Regardless a warrior is much harder to use then a pally on average fights, but as a warrior you also get some very handy abilities for boss encounters that can't go unnoticed....
Hope to see more feedback.
If I didnt work so damn many days in a row I would have tested this by now! lol
Just wanted to let those interested know that Furs macro works pretty well! At lower gear levels where you might not have as much block/dodge/parry it will get stuck on revenge, but its no big deal once you start gearing up to tank. Cant wait to try my warrior out in instances, woot!
Im using a warrrior tank for my team, and have no threat problems at all. Imo the trick is to keep it simple.
I dont use HS/cleave at all, i get enough singel target threat from shield slam, revenge and devestate, and enough aoe threat from TC and Shockwave.
Instead of messing about with revenge/hs glyphs, i go for blocking, vigilance and shockwave. Blocking is nice for boosting Shield slam threat, vigilance is a huge passive threat boost you only have to click once every 30 min and shockwave is nice for aoe threat. If i was runnign with hunters as DPS i would change shockwave glyph to dvestate tough, for applying suder faster for extra damage.
Using sunder armor glyph isnt much help to magic damage teams from what i have heard, as it only spread the debuff, not the threat a suder gives. This might be wrong tough, havent tested it out myself to confirm/deny it.
My tanks keybinds:
2- Devestate macro that also uses cooldowns like shield block, stoneform(dwarf racial) and trinkets.
3- Shield Slam
4- Revenge
5- Shockwave
F- Thunderclap
Shamans:
1- Flame shock
2- Lightningbolt
3- Lightningbolt
4- Lava Burst
5- Chain lightning
F- unbound
What i do is to use button 3 if shield slam is off CD, but 2 if its on CD (devestate has a chance to remove the remaining time on shield slam CD). Whenvever revenge is avilable or Lava burst gets of CD i use button 4.
At the same time im spamming F button whenever TC gets off CD. If its a group of trash im pulling i mix in button 5 for extra aoe threat and chain lightnings.
That is waaaay too much micro managing for a MB group. Im more worried about healing+dps than tanking. Fur's macro works wonders for me. I do Shockwave and Conc Blow seperately, but thats it.
This is what I use when my warrior is in tank mode->
/castsequence reset=combat Shield Slam,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/castsequence reset=combat Thunder Clap,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/castsequence reset=combat Shockwave,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/cast Devastate
You need to time the thunderclap so devastate can go off. I am not rage starved and usually have about 20 rage at the end of battle in an instance. Be sure to get the glyph that allows devastate to apply sunder x2 per hit. I put thunderclap in as it generates lots of threat and shockwave is used for mini CC (it stuns all the mobs). I already know that this combo is not perfect or even dps/threat efficient. But I do know that I am always getting something to fire off and that I don't run out of rage. There are no hang ups. The mobs die fast enough that I don't need to micromanage everything. My warrior has had no problem with holding all aggro even during damage spikes from the boomkin.
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