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Hello all!
My brother 5 boxes shammys and I want to 5 box as well.
SHADOW PREISTS PvP.
The biggest problem is obviously fear, healing, and armor. All 3 make the shammy a perfect multi boxing character.
But, UD priests have fear ward, will of the forsaken, and a 30% bonus in armor i believe without inner fire. (they can also heal if you didn't know lol )
Any advice guys?
Thanks,
Nick
Cloth=Squishy
Shadowform or not
If just for BGs, you will do fine. If you get the jump they will die, if they get the jump on you I dont see fear helping that much. There are melee that have abilites that ignore fear. A Warrior's bladestorm would tear you apart in short order for example.
There are some priest boxers around here that have more experience. Hopefully they will share.
Ya I made the mistake of RAFing up 5 priests and then I regretted it. I played with them for about 5 hours before giving up. The synergy just doesnt seem to work.
I played 4 Shadow Priests and a Paladin all through TBC (wishing I was Shaman the whole time).
They are very cool looking, they do great damage as long as you are close up - but with all the changes to them - for what they bring to the table they are just to complicated to box.
If you get rushed by a bunch of melee you dont have alot of answers - good thing about Druid/Shaman is they can be in an animal form and not get sapped - with Priests you will often get sapped and simply cant live through much CC.
My biggest issue was mana - I think they've fixed that alot now in WOTLK but I tried them out and the synergy just didn't feel there - they play quite differently now.
The problem with shadow priests is that you can't use your most awesome ability (renew) in shadowform. Without that, you're pretty much dead meat in PVP and instances. The only exception is when you have a well-geared tank that can let your vampiric embrace do all the healing. My first group was a gang of shadow priests. Fun, but very gimmicky and not all that useful.
Disc priests, on the other hand, with enough +dmg...
Thanks for all the help guys. I think the bottom line is that the cloth is the main issue.
Admins can close! Thanks again!
Don't write off cloth just yet! One word.Quote:
Originally Posted by rand0minc
Warlocks
With Pets, aoe fear, seduce, ability to port,SL and a ton of utility. I think locks are a great in PvP. I like them so much I have a set myself. Quite a few people around here have a set of locks.
Thanks Fat Tire. My broski is making a set of locks now and he is liking it a lot :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
He is trying to decide between locks, mages , and shammies.
I am trying to decide between disc preists and shammies.
We would appreciate any input! thanks all!
I have 4x priests and I am going to lvl them shadow, go shadow and disc for pvp.
The nice thing about priests is, every set of gear and every spec needs the same thing. You can lvl in shadow and switch to disc / holy for anything else without switching gear much. So, I am going to lvl them when I get my chests next week and see how they are =)
The nice thing about shammies is that they have so many AFK abilities on totems that you end up spending a fair bit of time setting your macros up and then it's just mash a few buttons ftw. With disc priests, everything is active, so you'll be micromanaging abilities like shields/power infusion/renew a lot more. Just something to think about.Quote:
Originally Posted by rand0minc
QTF. My locks tear faces off now that theyre round 2000sp. My felguards alone can kill pretty much anything excluding tanks in seconds :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
I'm working up my 3 warlocks to compliment my pally/priest duo, I plan on alternating them with my 80 T7 mages. I've contemplated multi priests (have one 80, one 70 and one 58) but I've found, that at least for boxing, shadowpriests only stand out on Mass AOE with mind sear (and they are REALLY good at that) and on a boss fight, where you have time to build up a dot rotation. Short trash fights of less than 4 mobs and my priest does half the dps of my mages. Boss fights they are the same, with the priest often hitting the top. Maybe I can adjust my macros for non boss fights, but as it stands, my priest sucks on trash, and if I only had shadowpriests for dps on heroic trash, It would be a lot harder as my tank would be taking a lot more hits.
im 5 boxing human spriests and have NO problems in pvp at all. absolute ownage. that is all.
I played a group of five Disc Priests (RAF) from 1st to 60th.
They were quite fun, and actually leveled faster then 5x BM Hunters, pre WotLK.
5x Smite was just as likely to kill things as 5x Lightning Bolt.
The cast time is a tad longer, but they have more options it seems them the Shammies.
Holy - Smite, Holy Fire.
Shadow - Mind Flay, Mind Blast, SW: Pain, Devouring Plague, SW: Kill.
Tons of heal options.
Basically castsequence your Pain Suppression, Power Infusion (unless they each hit themselves), could round robin PW: Shield to save mana. I have Fear Ward on Round Robin, targeting the current master who will hopefully Mass Dispel fairly quickly. Divine Hymn on round robin would be nice for mana regen. Psychic Scream is a lot of fear options.
Having them all hit someone with Dispel Magic is fun.
You can have them say 2 Magic and 3 Disease if targeting [help] or 5x Dispel if targeting [harm].
With mouse broadcasting 5x Mass Dispel will be fun.
I'd imagine 5x Mana Burn will really make other casters unhappy.
Holy Nova or Mind Seer is decent AoE options.
In the forefront of a battle is not their desired positioning.
Still, they have a lot more survivability then most cloth types.
With Pain Suppression, 5x Renew, 5x Penance, Holy Nova, and the Disc talents....
Standing in the back, behind the front line...
Supporting those in the front with heals, cures, etc...
They will really shine.
also... my brother is thinking about multiboxing warlocks.... is this a good idea?... i mean he says it is fun cause of all the dots. and what not... plus the pets... but i am not sure..
any help would be appreciated
Priest and Lock trio here, got them to 65 was my first team when I started boxing after them started to work on some Samies, Samis was the little ugly kid in enemy mind.... sorry got side tracked with the Samies! There 80 by the way with the priest as the healer no longer part of the trio with the locks but they where fun non the less. Went SP and Affliction, love affliction for some weird reason could not get into Demonology but probably way better once you start using it, SP, 2 locks and 2 Felguards=lots of damage.
i've got 5 priests at 68 and have been doing a lot of BG's lately ... can anyone tell me what kind of damage mind sear does in real-world? I'm thinking this would be huge at lvl 75 in AV - but not sure how to calculate the dmg with talents+sp etc ... anyone 75+ can tell me what it ticks for?
If you did want to do clothies mages or maybe locks. But yea, shaman are the best for pvp I have found so far. but then again i am looking forward to get my pallies in good pvp gear and cause problems for the alliance in alterac valley! When a healer follows me around it already causes major headaches for them. :) love it!Quote:
Originally Posted by rand0minc
for multiboxing... say my main guy diezs.... what setting do i have to setup in order to quickly switch to one of my slave screens and make it the leader that the others will follow/assist?...
You can use a FTL system or a focus based system.
In an FTL system different modifiers are sent to the slave windows identifying who the current master is. For example, if Owl1 is the window I'm playing in, then pushing "g" will send "ctrl-alt-g" to all slaves. All slaves know that if "ctrl-alt" is sent then they are to assist Owl1 in their casts.
In a focus based system when you switch to a new window you also hit a button that tells all slaves who their master (focus) is. Their macros have target=focustarget or something similar.
In the movies section, a fair ways back.. I believe early-mid BC, there's a post from a 1x Disc Priest + 4x Affliction Warlocks. Pretty sure this was the thread: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=9348
It shows they are a powerful choice, that fear sucks pretty badly against them (although with interact and click to move, it's a lot easier to recover), also shows some things that killed them.