Looks like the "Total gold acquired" statistic is using a signed 32-bit integer to store the data, and I rolled over into negative :D
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3aJPvg70a64/Sm...ve%20golds.jpg
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Looks like the "Total gold acquired" statistic is using a signed 32-bit integer to store the data, and I rolled over into negative :D
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3aJPvg70a64/Sm...ve%20golds.jpg
you have earned to much lol so they - to make you look bad :P
What the hell did you sell for nearly 12k gold on the ah?
Think that was a Surge Needle Ring. 12,500g before the AH took their cut ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Smoooth',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219303#post 219303
care to share some gold making tips ?
anyone else notice "most gold ever owned 107k" >.> holy hell
are you 5 boxing? 100k gold isnt hard. Im about to have 3 teams doing dailies and that's 4500 gold a day easy, plus another few k weekly from drops/dragons eyes. We have a person in the guild that basically controls alliance market, he's 200k short of 1 mil(obviously in his gb, as max on one toon is 214,748<-- dont do dailies with that much, you wont get gold D= )Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Lowcorn',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219389#post 219389
- Boxing dailies (~12g * 25 * 5 = 1500g/day)
- Argent Pets (40 seals per pet, ~1.5-2k per pet, 5*5=25 seals/day = ~900-1200g/day average)
- 2 tailors 1 JC, ~90g per cloth and gem = 4+2+2 = 8*90g/4days = ~180g/day
- Heroics. 1 abyss (~125g), 4-6 dream shards (15*5=~75g), 8g/essence and 3.5g/dust gets me about 50g from green de's, frostweave is about 10g/stack, coins/vendor trash, 10 badges = scarlet ruby = ~70g... I think the average heroic run nets close to 500g.
Those are things any boxer can do to get a ton of cash. I also play the AH with buy low/sell high and luck out from time to time. When the announcement came out about titanium ore being prospectable for epic gems in 3.2, I managed to immediately snag almost 50 stacks worth at 2-3g per ore. I've sold about 10 stacks at 10g per ore already :).
When you don't have a whole lot of gold, gathering skills will raise some for you. They're in the game to make you a base amount of gold.
Once you have some gold, production skills will make you a lot more gold per hour then gathering skills. The whole process is called Arbitrage, where you turn one thing into another for a profit.
You need to price out a few things. Take a ring you can make as a Jewelcrafter, or an enchant you can do as an Enchanter. Any skill works. Figure out the average price that it sells at, by watching trade or the auction house for a time. Also know what you need, in terms of ingredients, to produce this item. Figure out the average price of these items too.
When the mats are listed cheap, by them in bulk. Also, if you see someone listing whatever mat in bulk, contact them in the game. Offer to buy the mats you need from them, COD, at a fixed price. Meet them in between their AH price and 95% of their price. For example, if I sell something on the AH for 100g, the AH takes 5g and I keep 95. If I sell to you for 97.50, you're paying 2.50g less then if I listed on the AH and I'm getting 2.50g more as well. Down the road, you can make spam advertising macro's, asking people to mail stacks of whatever to you at xx price, COD.
So now you have mats coming in, at fixed prices. And you have items which you can sell for a profit. Doesn't matter if its Glyphs, Enchants on a Vellum, Titansteel Armor or Weapons, Leg Enchants etc.
Over time, get a high level of each production skill, on your best PVE team, trying to cover every skill between the five toons. You can farm heroics with these, and get all the drop patterns more easily. The more recipes you have, the better position you are in, to take advantage of arbitrage.
I am always amazed at how much time people put into making gold. For myself I just earn enough to buy whatever I want then stop doing daily quest. Gold has never been important to me unless I wanted to buy something. It's pretty impressive that people can make those amounts of gold. If these people put that amount of time and effort into earning real money I think they would be very successful. I would love to hear about someone who can grind gold and grind real money with some type of business or something. For me doing daily quest on multiple teams feels too much like work. Grats on the gold that is an amazing feat.
If there were items that I could just pick up in nature and consistently sell them to someone for a set price and they would replenish in a matter of hours, I would be extremely wealthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pinotnoir',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219510#po st219510
empty cans.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'wendalf',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219689#post 219689
Why is this illegal?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219713#po st219713
This is not illegal. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Ihk*',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219715#post219 715
I am part of the Azerothian Trade Union, a pan-server discussion forum focussed on WoW economy. We have many members that control or have controlled markets in WoW, none of them ever had trouble. I personnaly dominated the blue-weapon market on my server in vanilla WoW. My very (in)famous main trader would basically buy EVERYTHING and resell at her own price and sell in her name. Like 9 out of 10 blue weapon on the AH would be sold by her. This generated a lot of commotion on the forums and got me reported countless times (the reporting I get for multi-boxing is nothing compared to that time). This also got me filthy rich in game. Nothing like reaching gold cap, of course, but still filthy rich in a time when the most expensive item in game would be a 1000g fast mount.
Well, I never even heard of a GM. Another member of the ATU was controlling the Pacebloom market on her server, not for profit since that was very little return compared to the work it required, but just for fun and the annoyance factor. She never had troubles neither.
Even cross faction trading, sending items or gold from Alliance to Horde or the other way around, is perfectly fine, even on a PVP server.
Basically, any form of market manipulation that does not involve *really* illegal things (like real life money) is absolutely fine and safe.
The only instance of this I've heard of is in conjunction with an RMT firm that was manipulating the market on several servers to both make a killing in-game and drive up the prices to encourage gold buying. AH domination by itself has not gotten anyone I've known into trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219713#po st219713
Not everywhere pays people to recycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Niley',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219701#post21 9701
Not saying I _do_ all those steps, just that there are easy ways to make a lot of gold. I did only the 4 icecrown champion seal dailies for a while (about a half hour/day) then eventually gave up. Right now I spend about 30m each evening playing the AH and that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=219713#po st219713
Abyss fluctuate between 100 and 125g, greater cosmic is 10-12, dust is 3-4g, shards are 15-20g. Recently dragon's eyes have jumped back up to 200g+, so I've been doing the JC daily again on my one JC.
Imagine selling that for like 5$ each.
I kind of sort of remember something about addons being banned or diabled from working because they automated detection of abnormally low priced items, and buying and re-selling them. Was it called bottom loader, or was that something else?Quote:
Originally Posted by mmcookies
The only instance of this I've heard of is in conjunction with an RMT firm that was manipulating the market on several servers to both make a killing in-game and drive up the prices to encourage gold buying. AH domination by itself has not gotten anyone I've known into trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fursphere
But I could just be making it up - memory is a bit hazy :rolleyes:
That was bottom feeder:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flekkie
http://forums.norganna.org/discussio...d-indefinetly/
It wasn't the automated detection of abnormally low prices that they didn't like, it was the fact that it could also be set to automatically _buy_ all of those items instantly and without user interaction. Though it could just as easily bite the buyer in the ass if they had bad settings or invalid scan data. (Like someone puts up hundreds of mining picks at 9999g for a week straight, then starts putting them up for 20g - bam, it just buys a bunch at tons over vendor)
The new incarnation of it was renamed bottom scanner and it can only popup a window alerting you to a deal and asking you if you want to bid/buy (so you have to be at the computer paying attention to get it).