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Oh my . . . this makes my life a ton easier! I hope I can change faction and server at the same time :/ Maybe I should move my ally squad now, lol.
HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!! (extra '!' for major emphasis)
This is a change I have been dreaming about for a long time.
HOLY SDGJK:H!
I've been waiting for ages for a way to bring some of my abandoned alliance characters onto my horde realm where I play now!
Yea that's a good question. I can't imagine it will be cheap to avoid overuse (although they could have other means to control that)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212635#po st212635
I cant tell if this "service to transform an existing character into a roughly equivalent character of the opposing faction on the same realm." means that when you change you choose a race in the faction you are changing to or that they are going to allow racial mix. Should be interesting!
This is awesome. I can only assume at the moment it means that they will allow you to pick the equivilant. So you can only pick the race that offers the same class availability. It would be even better if they allowed a racial mix and got rid of the 6 class limitation.
Probably $25-$40 like everything else. From all the hate tells I've gotten from multiboxing, I've found that most people consider that a TON of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Vecter',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212637#post2 12637
People think the $25 transfer fee is expensive too. Back when I single boxed we jumped around battlegroups during the early Arena seasons, and just about every time, me and a friend would have to cover the transfer fees of a handful of our players who couldn't come up with $25.
Probably control it by some other means other than cost.
Funny, I just asked about this earlier today in Nova's thread on his Alliance-based Madoran guild.
Now, how to talk Nova's entire guild to going Horde since we all know..... Horde rulz. :)
Holy hell finally!
Humm, now only looking at spending 200 bucks to server transfer and faction change!
I had always thought they would offer this at some point, but when the achievement system came out I thought it would not be attempted.
Just goes to show you what can be done.................. Now if they would just place more emphasis on getting us more Dungeon servers that would be nice.
I sure get tired of seeing "additional instances cannot be launched please try again later"
That was the primary reason that I hadn't participated in that topic, because I have a guild full of horde toons. But if this becomes available...Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Greythan',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212651#pos t212651
While I find this very cool and I love to switch over to the dark side... which side would that be right? What is going to happen to all the rep you grind with various faction or is there an equivalent faction that you would automatically get rep transferred to?
So lets say cities...
IF=Org
SW=?
What about all the quest? Will you start off with like having done 0 quest for the horde if you where alliance before or viceversa? Lots of things to think about here. This is going to be a tough one for them.
Well will have to wait and see what they bring to us.
IF = Org
SW = UD
Darn = TB
Exodar = SMC
This could be very, very interesting.
*dances with glee*
i was sooo hoping they would increase the character-per-realm limit first. =[
but it will be very interesting. perhaps even balance some servers. or not.
Now i need to devise a plan to get my whole guild go horde so i can get the damn racials!
To handle pvp servers i'm curious if they will have a bulk option to change all the characters (same account) for that server.
This would be really cool if you can pick your destination race so long as it supports your class.
This really is an unbelievable change. It totally changes everything I'm doing right now.
I RAFed up a bunch more horde toons to 60 because i wanted a couple more options on my 10-box teams. Was about to start leveling them to 80. Not anymore.
I'd also spent the weekend PLing up some tradeskills on my toons. (Man, that is painful). Not anymore.
Now I can just level up a select group of my ally toons from 70 to 80 and top off their tradeskills. With a quick transfer, I'll have all the classes I could want and all the tradeskills - all the benefit with half the work.
A lot of them even already have their epic flyers.
Thank you Blizzard.
Hmmm.... wonder what will happen to all those Winterspring tiger mounts.... will they keep them as hordies?
I knew this was going to happen, and been talking about it for years. WOW has just found another way to squeeze a few more dollars out of us.
nice! I was actually thinking of rerolling horde on Mag to join the other boxers but the prospect of leveling up another team is just too painful. With this I'd transfer/side swith my ally team at the same time.. :thumbsup:
This is great news.
I miss my 70/71 horde hunter and warlock but not quite enough to try and level Alliance versions.
If the faction transfer allows you to do so regardless of level that would be wonderful. Otherwise I'll have to spend some time levelling them.
Of course I'm hoping it's not going to take months and months for them to get it working.
Gonna be able to make some SOLID multibox guilds now though :P
As far as the PvP realm rules only allowing one faction, I imagine they'd change this rule or add in exceptions. Best I could figure they'd do, is make it a 'Paid transfer', let us turn traitor to our own faction. Any rep with faction cities like SW, IF, Exo, and Darn, would be lost and turn to "At War' status and "Neutral" with the Horde equivalent. Cross factions like Booty Bay, Gadgetzan, Shattrath, and the such would probably stay where they are since both sides can do the same quests. They could just add more achievements for us to do and still let us keep the ones we complete, just to add to the game. Ones such as the "# of quests completed on Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdom" would count toward both sides. Maybe even add to these numbers or add another achievement in this line. Or just change the names of them "# of quests on Kalimdor for Horde/Alliance'. Something to that effect would work. Mechanics would probably be tricky anyway, but doable. Once you turn against your own faction, they could grant us a title and achievement to reward/brand us. We'd be able to keep all our racials abilities we have, not change up too much of the mechanics of the game and allow us to walk around in opposing capital cities as the toons we've created. Imagine, Gnomes flooding ThunderBluff, Orcs/Undead in SW, and Trolls in IF accepting quests and using the bank/AH.
o wow, i was catching up with some mates at a bbq the other day and they all play alliance and i play horde, this just seals the deal for me
they never cease to amaze do they
with regards to things that cant be transferred over
think of anything you have that the opposing faction doesn't have access too
and those are the things that will be lost
faction mounts etc
i'd say all argent rep will be lost and have to be done again, as well as pvp faction rep,
unless they figure out a way to transfer that over
i cant imagine how as can you really compare each opposing race and tell which is its opposite?
i hope they dont take too much away from you.
this is realy cool tho, i havn't played alliance for years i wonder whats changed
I havnt seen Ellay yet so here it goes!
Poor Ellay for leveling those new shamans! :whistling:
You should have stayed Horde you Alliance scum betrayer! ;)
Junglelove,
-Menthu
Sounds awesome, but I probably won't switch sides cause I don't feel like wasting even more cash on faction changes for all (or most) of my toons. Even though I'd really like to try some raids with another boxer... :(
Blizz.....
opening up everything to hang onto existing players.
You watch over the next twelve months as the game gets opened up to complete casual content and welfare epix.
It will happen.
Calling it now - paid equipment upgrades.
just kidding. I find this change awesome and scary at the same time. I now no longer need to level another set of shaman. WOOT.
After all these years we are gonna be able to change our toons to whichever faction we want.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...Id=18031079410
Yeah, if I would have known this was coming, I could have stayed with my 15 geared epic flying level 70 alliance toons and not made 20 epically geared, epic flying level 80 horde toons from scratch.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Menthu',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212775#post2 12775
Ah well, the journey has been fun. At least RAF made it very efficient.
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Originally Posted by 'Enndoh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212801#post2 12801
Strange post considering that this is what everyone is talking about already in this thread. I feel like you are 5 mins late to the conversation.
I hope this doesn't cause people to switch factions, and then be completely clueless about what's going on with the other side.
Because that would happen to me. I'd switch to Horde and wonder how the heck do I navigate UC? :P
I think Enndoh's post was moved in here for consolidation purposes. Originally it appeared as it's own thread. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212805#p ost212805
This change will be tempting. I'm alliance only because a couple friends and their kids started a new server and went alliance and I was just playing with them. I always preferred horde, and one of the kids was just agreeing a couple days ago that he also prefers horde as well. A faction change could be in our future, but that's a long way off yet. It would be interesting to start consolidating some of my orphaned toons stuck on horde on other servers, I suppose.
GJ sherlock!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Enndoh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212801#post2 12801
sigh alliance ftw..rerolling on same server doesn't mean much for me,
both sides are low populated, but on alliance i have my friends aswell..so its simple for me.
I don't see a problem with a company making changes designed to hang on to its customers. That's a pretty standard business practice. The question is whether it works or whether it will drive people away. I have a feeling that it won't drive people away, and it could certainly help some existing players stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Momo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212787#post212 787
As for opening the game up to casuals and easy gear, they've been heading that way since just before Burning Crusade. Remember that they made the honor gear (which usually required incredible amounts of PvPing, day after day, sometimes for months) obtainable without ranks? At that point the snowball began rolling down the hill. Before very long they were nerfing heroics, nerfing Gruul's, nerfing Magtheridon, nerfing Karazhan, and then nerfing those all over again. And again. And again. WotLK heroics are easier than tBC heroics even after all the nerfing. Now they're going to make easy and hard versions of both the 10/25 man dungeons, which means that there will be a version of 10/25 man content that can be done by pretty much anyone.
Thing is, companies don't make these changes without doing some market research (or if they don't, they risk going out of business pretty quick). If Blizzard is going this far in the direction of making the game more and more accessible, then their research must be showing that these changes are always extremely popular. Sure, people complain vociferously in the forums whenever they announce or make these changes, but the complainers never leave, and the changes are popular amongst the people who don't make a fuss. By now it should be pretty obvious what they want this game to be. We are way past the point of "soon, Blizzard will make this game easy."
I suggest you try Algalon(10 or 25) or the Yogg achievement(no helpers) before making the statement, "WoW is easy."
Blizzard are smart cookies. They will introduce new raids and gear for the hardcore raiding fraternity, so they can still strut around in items that everybody else won't have. I'm sure there will be a gear be a gear difference between easy and hard mode, and 10 and 25 man stuff (it seems only right that there should be).
They put so much effort into building these wonderful involving raiding environments that it seems silly not to cut off loads of people from accessing it.
I'm betting there are far more casuals playing than hardcore raiders , but I don't think it will be too difficult for blizzard to keep both sorts of players happy.
I cant wait to get all the 70's back that i left behind when i switched to horde!!
I got two teams of 80s fully geared out on horde that I can transfer to alliance, woohoo!
Thought: Do you think they will wrap it all up in one service? What I mean is, if you want to switch servers, change factions and your name. The name part is easy, just make a toon with your name on the server before you transfer characters. I hope I dont get dinged 25x2 for each character to transfer servers and then change faction, ugh. That will be 500 dollars! Totally, totally not worth it.
All good points. I dont know if blizzard has given up trying to increase market share(havent seen WoW has reached 13 million subscribers! and i doubt we ever will), but they have begun aggressive marketing to retain or attract already canceled players back to WoW. Obliviously these extra "services" are very profitable for Blizzard as they add a nice chunk to the profit margin at least during the intial release. I believe when the merger happened with Activision they were forced to become a more accessible game. I am sure market research told them that people dont have a ton of time to devot to the game and most want easier access to improving their character on a more consistent basis and that they are willing to pay for it. These current changes are only the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Tonuss',index.php?page=Thread&postID=212817#post2 12817
One has to think that there is some internal conflict going on inside of blizzard between the "pures" and the "casual" of the development team. With the upper management forcing the hand of the developers for the sake of the shareholders. We will see alot more casual, even more than the upcoming content and just alot more of these types of pay services as blizzard continues to lose market share.
Hey I gotta admit I would pay for certain things myself. 100 bucks for a lvl 80 in full current season pvp gear? You could say no way will they ever do this and I will just point out what they have said they will never do and then turned around at implemented it.