Or is it just to much micro management?
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Or is it just to much micro management?
I was doing it just fine with my 1xprot warrior 4xelemental shammies team. But I switched to 5x pallies awhile back.
I'm actually thinking about making my tank either a warrior or a feral druid on my pally team though :|
I've cleared, Nexus, HoL, Gundrak, UK, Start, DK (all heroic) with my warrior before I swith to a Paladin because my guild wanted a paladin tank. Tanking with the warrior is just as easy to do as with a paladin. Actually I think it's more fun to tank with the warrior, whilst playing the paladin I always miss charge. As things are now the only thing you should consider when choosing a tank is what kind of buffs you want/need.
At the end of the day I feel that the instances go faster with the warrior and there is more micro management with the paladin.
I found warrior tanking as easy as with any other tank and lots of fun, especially charge and shockwave are just great.
I've been running a group with a prot warrior, 3 shammies and a priest and did most of the heroics without much problems (and those I had where not related to the warrior).
Personally I prefer either pally or warrior over a druid or dk when it comes to tanking 5-man content since shield block really has some use (not that great when it comes to raids though).
Warriors however don't bring that much synergies to your group like a pally e.g. but play the tanking class you enjoy the most - each of the currents ones are totally viable as mb-tanks.
I've cleared almost all heroics (only occulus and halls of stone left), naxx, os and voa while multiboxing a prot warrior tank. I've got one castsequence on the warrior that spams thunderclap, demo shout and devastate. Tactics are slightly different from the palladin tactics (instead of placing down a consecration, you place your warrior at that spot and the spam macro should pickup the adds).
There's only two boss fights that I've encountered in northrend that are a bit tricky with a warrior. Anub'arak in Azjol-nerub takes some practice because the adds that spawn during the fight will tend to directly go for your healer (not really a problem if you're prepared to taunt them immediately). The tribunal of ages is really a pain because the adds in that fight are scripted to run past your tank and attack Brann instead, although I have to admit I've only attempted this fight a couple of times.
A prot warrior (only) adds a health buff to the group. It does make a big difference when you're starting with heroics, but it becomes less useful once your gear becomes better because you only need sufficient health to survive an encounter (any extra health only serves as a buffer). What does make a big difference are the warrior's damage reduction debuffs. Stunning entire groups of trash, disarming whirlwinding bosses and reflecting spells does contribute to the survivability of a group.
Well, my "main" team will have a pally MT - But, when I level my second team I want to have another tank with them from 60-80 - Warrior seems most fun to have, but druid might be better for 10 boxing (but rather not level 2 druids at once)
Once im done with my DK, hunter, mage,lock,priest team i plan on making a warrior led team, not sure on what classes ill pout in it, but i really want another warrior. Warriors are alot of fun, plus now with duel spec i can easily tank for my team than switch to MS and destroy everyone in pvp lol.
That depends on your group make-up. While no Warriors don't synergize well with a caster group, 5x Sunder Armor synergizes extremely well with a all paladin or melee group. So do all the stuns, and the disarm as whirlwinding bosses are dirty dirty whores when it comes to an all melee group.Quote:
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Edit: I haven't actually tried a warrior MT yet on my all pally group as my 80 prot warrior is horde and my 5x pally team is ally. I'm leveling up a 2nd 5x pally team on horde now and once they reach 80 I'm planning on giving that a try.
Rebuffing all the time. But yes the actuall tanking is done with one key, same as on the warrior.Quote:
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I rebuff with smart buff addon.
I have the rebuff on the same button for all of my toons (/click SmartBuff_Button or something like that ) so pallys do their thing, shaman throw up water shield, mages,priests & warlocks all do their thing at the same time.
I press it before each fight, it's not really a problem, it's second nature to me.
I've been using a warrior to tank, it's not too bad once he's geared enough. As others have mentioned, I do miss not having blessings.
My warrior tanks with 3 keys:
- One taunt
- One shield bash to interrupt spells
- One castrandom (devastate, shockwave, shield slam, thunderclap)
He holds aggro well and I've had few problems with him. My one main complaint is that he doesn't have a constant aoe pulse like a DK or paladin, which makes instances that have adds run past him a serious pain when thunderclap is on cooldown (like violet hold).
Overall I've done pretty well with my warrior.
Demo Shout actually works pretty well for picking up running by adds when TC is down. Sure not as well as consecration and DnD but well enough.Quote:
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My tanking macro also includes a demo shout in its rotation. It's good enough for preventing adds from immediately going after the healer. Also, I have a separate key that just spams demo shout. I use it for pulling large packs of mobs when doing collection quests.Quote:
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[offtopic]I HATE Tribunal of ages! :cursing: Makes me wanna rip my hair out! Imo it is the hardest 5-man heroic event to multibox in game atm. (At least without passive aoe like what pala/dk have) Last time my team cleared it we all died! Brann Bronzebeard only just survived. He was still talking with the "computer" when i ran back in to loot chest.Quote:
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#1 - I have tried to move as group to avoid beams: whole party taking beam dmg while add stuns in place = wipe. Also not much dps, mobs add up too quickly.
#2 - I have tried to spread out and move toons away from beams: toon usually dies if not moved immediately. This also stops dps and healing for a while.
#3 - I have tried to spread out and heal through the beams: needs fast reaction and big heals. Difficult but seems to work best for me. I can concentrate more on tanking, just need to keep my eye on health bars.
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I'm working on one of each class to 80. Currently have 7 80s, but still have DK/War/Hunt at level 63 now and about to start them full-time till I get them to 80 (perhaps this weekend). I may put the Pali/DK/War all on the same account so I can pick and choose between each tank at will. Though I may end up putting at least one on my priest account, then use either druid or shaman healer to mix things up. I want to be able to mix-match just about everything for variety.
As far as micromanagement, it seems like the War and Pali are probably going to be about the same. Liberal use of AoE to maintain agg, individual use of taunt/intercept to pick up adds during a fight. Creation of a robust tank macro will make 90% of the work fairly simple, as it currently does for my pali. I'm going to miss the Captain America shield on the warrior compared to pali for the ranged group taunts/pulls/silence (re: the above mentioned Brann event), but the warrior brings different tools to make other fights easier too (spell reflect, shield wall, shouts, etc).
I'm looking forward to trying the warrior out as tank. Will be a nice change to the group dynamic from pali/DK.