8 GB DDR3 1333 Ram kingston/OCZ/Crosair/GeiL?

could anyone tell me what to get? :P i realy dont know..
atm i have 4gig of OCZ DDR3 1333 but i need an upgrade.
my setup:

MSI X48 Platinum
C2D E8400 @ 3.0Ghz
4G OCZ DDR3 1333
EAH 3870x2 1g
750w GameXtreme PSU
Win XP.

now i used to get #132 errors when in SW ect ect. and all wow crashes.
now im thinking of dropping the ram, CPU and the video card and sell it. and buy this instead:

Core 2 Quad Q9650 @ 3.0Ghz not sure if this is good..
need new 8gig ram.. but i dont know what is good..
New videocard.. realy dont know what.. i think the ENGT285 is a bit expensive.. but if you guys say its the one.. i can afford it..
but maybe EN9600GT??
also thinking of swiching to Windows 7 64x.

btw this is for 5 boxing.
please post your oppinion wich could help me make a choise.

thanks alot in advance,
Greetings,

Ògil

CPU is good
8 GB is good, get DDR2 800 or 1066, really cheap now a days. Check the brands that MSI recommends, cross check what they recommend with the different vendors web sites. Check popular websites like newegg and read the reviews in there - you got to take them with a grain of salt, but you should be able to pickup trends like specific issues with a particular type of RAM.
As for video card, my good old 8800 GT is still an awesome card. I would suggest a 9800GT instead of 9600GT, anything above will be fine.

As for Windows 7 64x, there hasn't been a final release has it? which means is still not "production" ready software. If you don't like dealing with possible OS issues I would recommend vista 64 instead ...

[s]Every time someone posts they have problems I just look and see they are running 2 video cards ..... ]

Right now I am recomending 9600 plus with 1G or more ram for reasons explained in other threads.


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Replace that Crossfire videocard setup with a single powerful GPU ( 4890, or gtx 285 )... you're only hurting yourself using crossfire ( or sli )

Lastly, as far as RAM goes I'm a huge fan of Corsair. I buy Corsair whenever looking for PSUs and RAM. Get 2 of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145214

I use the 6gb Tripple Channel DDR3 version of that RAM, and it "Dominates" ( no pun intended )

guys i dont know what ur talking about... i have this videocard.. its not crossfire its not SLI..

http://www.techzine.nl/uploaded/31617_79c87fee.jpg

and then my motherboard only supports ddr3... so i have to get a ddr3.... dont care about how much they costs. i do care how much my videocard costs... i think the 9800 sounds good..

still... i dont know shit about ram... and cant find where msi advices a brand or type of ram.. so realy dont know anything yet.. all i know is that i can only put in DDR3. and i would like to have 1333 mhz.

thnx for the replys guys.

I was too tired to post last nite, but I agree, where the hell did you say your had 2 video cards? You didn't. ?( The 3870x2 is one card.

As for the ram thing, if you go to your product download page at MSI they should have a Qualified Vendors List that lists the ram and what combos they certified at board release time. I am using ram on both my MBs that are from mfg's on QVL's but not the exact part numbers listed.

You have one of the hybrid boards with core 2 and ddr3 (which should really rock), so look for the ddr3 by any of the big mfg Kingston/corsair/ocz etc. If you can afford the higher speed ram then getting a reasonably priced 1600mhz set is great because it leaves you some headroom if you OC and the ratios end up a bit funky. They do sell them in diferent packaging for the triple channel (i7) and dual channel (what you need). Make sure you don't buy more than you need. ;)

Your current setup may be crashing due to a configuration issue with the ram or cpu bus speeds/voltages. The E8400 is a good overclocker and should sell quickly if you choose to do so.

The Q9xxx series are great processors and run much cooler than the Q6xxx quads. I would get one of the slower clock speeds and just OC it a bit to save some $$.

I am using Win7 RC on two different quad core setups with no driver issues at all. The Q6600 machine has a MSI p7n platinum mb with no issues. The i7 machine has a asus p6t (plain), also with no issues.

Get a current generation video card with as much video ram as you can afford. I don't think the x2 cards have very mature drivers so get a single gpu card for your gaming machine. Wow doesn't lean on the video card very hard at all, you don't need a ton of video power. I just gave a friend my old P4 3.2 with a 6800gt for non-boxing wow.

Good luck.

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Get a current generation video card with as much video ram as you can afford. I don't think the x2 cards have very mature drivers so get a single gpu card for your gaming machine.

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Ya.

Right now I am recomending 9600 plus with 1G or more ram for reasons explained in other threads.

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The ASUS EAH3870 X2 1GB TOP - which is quite a mouthful to say, by the way - packs in twin ATI RV680 GPUs, packaged together in Crossfire mode on a single PCI Express videocard.

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Ya its a single card, but because its still using crossfire its just like two seperate cards.

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guys i dont know what ur talking about... i have this videocard.. its not crossfire its not SLI..

http://www.techzine.nl/uploaded/31617_79c87fee.jpg

and then my motherboard only supports ddr3... so i have to get a ddr3.... dont care about how much they costs. i do care how much my videocard costs... i think the 9800 sounds good..

still... i dont know shit about ram... and cant find where msi advices a brand or type of ram.. so realy dont know anything yet.. all i know is that i can only put in DDR3. and i would like to have 1333 mhz.

thnx for the replys guys.

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It "is" basically crossfire.

Notice the 4 DVI ports?
Notice how the name has x2 in it?

The card you have is essentially 2 cards slapped together into one.


And the bad part about that is, WoW doesn't take advantage of dual video cards, like you have. Essentially WoW is only using 1/2 of your video card/s.


THAT is why I said to get a powerful single GPU card, like you DONT have.


It's 100% pointless to upgrade to 8gb of RAM with the current video card you have.

For my main computer I use currently corsair dominator gt's. Sometimes crucial ballistix's. For computers #2 and #3 , I use the old set from my main computers if I can, so..corsair/crucial. For computers #4 to #13, I use GSkill ram.

I like GSkill. There is always a deal going on for GSkill ram. It is always cheap, even for their low latency high speed stuff. I have never had a problem with their ram and I am running 20 sticks of it. Corsair or Crucial are very reliable companies. I usually get whichever has the best deal for what I want at that time. Corsair does usually have better looking heatcovers though.

Video cards, NV has GTS250's which are the new 9800GTX, can get thouse for under $150 for the 1gb version and much less for the 512.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...on=gts+250+1gb

GTX 280's can be found for well under $300 now if you look around

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143145

and they are just about as good as GTX 285's . Actually found one before for $229 after a $30 mail-in rebate.

4890's are almost as good as GTX 285's and certainly better then anything else other then the GTX285 (or the dual GPU/card cards). They sell at @$250, but seen em as low as $209.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scription=4890


I am running WIndows 7 RC1 x64. No problems with EQ2, no idea on WoW, but I doubt there will be much problems if any. An RC is a release candidate and probably in 3 months it will go to RTM status or RC2. Vista went to RC2 before RTM, but WIndows 7 is doing so well, it may just go straight to RTM (release to manufacturing). I think, if you are going to have to pay money to get a Vista OS, than you should diffinently go WIndows 7 instead, because Windows 7 is diffinently better then Vista will ever be and regaurdless of what potential problems you may encounter durring the RC period it will probably be worth putting up with if saving @$100 means anything to you....since windos 7 RC is free for a year. You buy Vista and eventually migrate over to WIndows 7, because it really is so much better, then you lose whatever $$ you spent on vista. You use WIndows 7 RC for free and find out it has too many problems to deal with (doubtfull), so you then get a vista OS and pay what you were gonna pay anyway. You use Windows 7 RC and liek it and eventually get the retail version. Honestly, I think for anybody, their best course is to use windows 7 rc at this time.

Herc130, moosejaw, Sam DeathWalker,

thanks alot for your efford to post some real info. will look at this in the morning so i can get a order done.. thanks alot for the time.

Greetings,
Ogil

"You have one of the hybrid boards with core 2 and ddr3 (which should really rock), so look for the ddr3 by any of the big mfg Kingston/corsair/ocz etc. If you can afford the higher speed ram then getting a reasonably priced 1600mhz set is great because it leaves you some headroom if you OC and the ratios end up a bit funky. They do sell them in diferent packaging for the triple channel (i7) and dual channel (what you need). Make sure you don't buy more than you need. ;) "

well i know what you mean... but that is the MSI x48C.. that has both DDR3 slots as DDR2. i have the MSI x48.. wich only has DDR3. :) but that doesnt matter realy.. i get ur point. thanks alot.

But 1 question. my prosessor is a C2D @3.0 ghz. also it says 1333 mhz. im not realy sure what that means but i geuss thats the bus speed. does it matter if my CPU is 1333 and my ram is 1600?? or does that have nothing to do with each other?

Ogil

I would go with an nvidia card, I've never had much luck with ati cards and pretty much every ati card I've had was a disapointment.

I also only use nvidia. Just updated 5 computers with new drivers last night and it went flawlessly.

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Originally Posted by 'Ògil',index.php?page=Thread&postID=201565#post201 565

"You have one of the hybrid boards with core 2 and ddr3 (which should really rock), so look for the ddr3 by any of the big mfg Kingston/corsair/ocz etc. If you can afford the higher speed ram then getting a reasonably priced 1600mhz set is great because it leaves you some headroom if you OC and the ratios end up a bit funky. They do sell them in diferent packaging for the triple channel (i7) and dual channel (what you need). Make sure you don't buy more than you need. ;) "

well i know what you mean... but that is the MSI x48C.. that has both DDR3 slots as DDR2. i have the MSI x48.. wich only has DDR3. :) but that doesnt matter realy.. i get ur point. thanks alot.

But 1 question. my prosessor is a C2D @3.0 ghz. also it says 1333 mhz. im not realy sure what that means but i geuss thats the bus speed. does it matter if my CPU is 1333 and my ram is 1600?? or does that have nothing to do with each other?

Ogil

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The hybrid to which I refered is your board having ddr3 only with a core2 (not ddr3 + ddr2). DDR3 is more at home teamed with an i7. I was looking at a very similar MB before I bought an i7 arrangement. They sell the ram in packages of 2 or packages of 3 depending on your platform. IIRC the core 2 mb's still use pairs of 2 even with ddr3 ram. Just make sure of your MB arrangement before you buy.



The 1333mhz is the Front Side Bus (FSB) speed. FSB/4 X the core multiplier= internal cpu speed. On a core2 MB the FSB and memory speed are related. The memory should be run at an even fraction of the FSB speed . I think some one mentioned this earlier.

The MB's are made to run in a FSB range i.e. 800-2200 mhz. The MB adjusts according the data in the cpu you use. In the above case 1300mhz FSB and a 9x multiplier. These values are user adjustable in the system bios should a user want to overclock the system. Run at system default if you don't want to mess with overclocking.