Clones won't target after fearbomb

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03-03-2009, 05:23 PM
Johalak

Clones won't target after fearbomb

I did a quick search for this problem, but was unable to find a solution.

I have recently discovered that if my group gets feared, my clones will no longer target. I have a very simple setup, well, getting more complex as I learn new tactics and get more heroic bosses on farm. Basically I just use 1 button for my clones to assist my tank, and then go into my attack sequence/dps rotation. However, after my group has been feared, I will spam my assist button but the clones will not target. I have to go to each window manually and click on the target for each toon. I did notice however, that my priest can still target and heal. For healing I use the num pad with separate keys to target each toon, and then a key for each type of heal.

While I'm on here, I will throw out another problem that I have discovered. I recently included my trinkets in my main dps button.

/use 13

/use 14

/castrandom...

I have noticed that only the first trinket ever gets used. On a long fight I will see the trinket get used, and see the 20sec cooldown for the 2nd trinket. After the 20 sec cooldown is up, no matter how much I am spamming my main dps button, the 2nd triket will never fire.

Any ideas?

Thank you
03-03-2009, 05:26 PM
elsegundo

RE: Clones won't target after fearbomb

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Johalak',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182903#post 182903

I did a quick search for this problem, but was unable to find a solution.

I have recently discovered that if my group gets feared, my clones will no longer target. I have a very simple setup, well, getting more complex as I learn new tactics and get more heroic bosses on farm. Basically I just use 1 button for my clones to assist my tank, and then go into my attack sequence/dps rotation. However, after my group has been feared, I will spam my assist button but the clones will not target. I have to go to each window manually and click on the target for each toon. I did notice however, that my priest can still target and heal. For healing I use the num pad with separate keys to target each toon, and then a key for each type of heal.

While I'm on here, I will throw out another problem that I have discovered. I recently included my trinkets in my main dps button.

/use 13

/use 14

/castrandom...

I have noticed that only the first trinket ever gets used. On a long fight I will see the trinket get used, and see the 20sec cooldown for the 2nd trinket. After the 20 sec cooldown is up, no matter how much I am spamming my main dps button, the 2nd triket will never fire.

Any ideas?

Thank you

what's your assist macro like?
03-03-2009, 05:28 PM
Johalak

All my clones have this bound to the same key:

/assist Landese
03-03-2009, 05:30 PM
Dorffo

I've found that the solution in that case is to clear your targets and re-assist.
03-03-2009, 05:35 PM
Johalak

Easy enough. So should I just add /cleartarget to my assist macro, or bind a seperate key just for /cleartarget?
03-03-2009, 05:35 PM
elsegundo

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Johalak',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182905#post 182905

All my clones have this bound to the same key:

/assist Landese

two things to take into consideration.
1. your slaves may be too far away from the mob after the fear to target.
2. there is a lag delay. meaning your main will target the boss again, but your slaves will not know this until it communicates with the blizzard servers. also, if your main is also feared, then you cannot "assist" him until your slaves receive from the blizz servers that your main is no longer feared.

if this is not a lag issue, then it could be a distance issue.
if this is not a distance issue, i would suggest using conditionals within macros so that you will never have to press an assist key again.
for example /cast [target=landese-target, harm, nodead][] fireball
this will automatically "assist" your main no matter what and you will never have to press your assist key ever again. unless he's feared/hexxed.
03-03-2009, 05:40 PM
Owltoid

I'm glad someone mentioned the difficulty with targeting after a fear bomb... I thought I was going nuts. I have "/assist" and they just stand there looking at me like I'm crazy even though the slaves are facing the correct direction and within range. I'm going to add a "/cleartarget" or whatever the command is to my target button (I use /click for the targeting portion).
03-03-2009, 05:43 PM
Johalak

Pretty sure it is not a distance or lag issue. I had thought of this so I dragged the mob, or rounded up all my toons with the follow key and they would still not target after the fear. As far as the lag, I would assume that during the time I spent rounding up my toons with follow/dragging the mob closer to them, any lag would then be accounted for.

I have been avoiding adding all those conditionals, basically becasue I am lazy and don't want to go changing all my cumbersome macros that I have become so used to. I have come to realize however that if I wish to progress as multiboxer obviously I'm going to have to get with the times! Thanks for taking the time to help.

Any ideas on my trinket problem?
03-03-2009, 05:50 PM
elsegundo

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Johalak',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182915#post 182915

Pretty sure it is not a distance or lag issue. I had thought of this so I dragged the mob, or rounded up all my toons with the follow key and they would still not target after the fear. As far as the lag, I would assume that during the time I spent rounding up my toons with follow/dragging the mob closer to them, any lag would then be accounted for.

I have been avoiding adding all those conditionals, basically becasue I am lazy and don't want to go changing all my cumbersome macros that I have become so used to. I have come to realize however that if I wish to progress as multiboxer obviously I'm going to have to get with the times! Thanks for taking the time to help.

Any ideas on my trinket problem?

sorry i think the other guys have the solution to your problem. as for me, i was only guessing. yes, adding conditionals to your macro will save you a lot of time hitting the /assist key. and also having people on auto follow after combat will help you from pressing the /follow key all the time. though sometimes you will need to /follow other than after combat, and having a macro for that is awesome.

as for the trinkets, try it with a mod.
/use 13
/use [mod:alt] 14
/castrandom....

this will not castrandom and not use 13 if you press alt.
03-03-2009, 05:54 PM
Johalak

Will do. Thanks to all for your help, love this place. Owltoid, I'm glad to hear I was not the only one too!
03-03-2009, 06:01 PM
Owltoid

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'elsegundo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182916#po st182916

as for the trinkets, try it with a mod.
/use 13
/use [mod:alt] 14
/castrandom....

this will not castrandom and not use 13 if you press alt.

I'm not sure this is true... if you didn't want it to use 13 and do a castrandom when you push alt, then you would need to include [nomod:alt]. All the current macro does is try to use 13 all the time, try to use 14 only if an alt was pushed, and try to do a castrandom all the time.
03-03-2009, 06:08 PM
Johalak

I got that use trinket macro from this site, in various threads. It seams to be standard on a lot of peoples dps spam buttons, however I do not see any threads on the 2nd trinket not working, so perhaps I have just fatfingered the macro and it is just not entered correctly.
03-03-2009, 06:09 PM
elsegundo

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Owltoid',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182921#post 182921

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'elsegundo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182916#po st182916

as for the trinkets, try it with a mod.
/use 13
/use [mod:alt] 14
/castrandom....

this will not castrandom and not use 13 if you press alt.

I'm not sure this is true... if you didn't want it to use 13 and do a castrandom when you push alt, then you would need to include [nomod:alt]. All the current macro does is try to use 13 all the time, try to use 14 only if an alt was pushed, and try to do a castrandom all the time.

quite possibly. im not on wow to test this. but if the OP has problems with it, adding the nomod:alt to the first line may resolve the issue.
03-03-2009, 06:12 PM
Dorffo

I am fairly certain that it's not a lag/distance issue. I've run into this post-fear and post-charm but not 100% of the time. I just smack my Escape key (clears target) and then start nuking again (my nuke macros all call an /assist line) if it crops up.
03-03-2009, 06:35 PM
nomenquis

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Dorffo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=182926#post1 82926

I am fairly certain that it's not a lag/distance issue. I've run into this post-fear and post-charm but not 100% of the time. I just smack my Escape key (clears target) and then start nuking again (my nuke macros all call an /assist line) if it crops up.

If one toon gets feared or something alike than all other toons wont see his target untill he re targets something. So if you just assist some toon make sure to re target something on that toon after the fear.
03-03-2009, 06:41 PM
Johalak

Quote:

If one toon gets feared or something alike than all other toons wont see his target untill he re targets something. So if you just assist some toon make sure to re target something on that toon after the fear.

I verified that this is not the problem, as I can retarget with my main, and smack away with my dps button, but still cannot get clones to assist/attack. I will try out the cleartarget thing this evening.