Quick run through this zone. 0 deaths, fun zone, extremely easy. Enjoy!
http://www.wegame.com/watch/Bl_d_DKs...akTharon_Keep/
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Quick run through this zone. 0 deaths, fun zone, extremely easy. Enjoy!
http://www.wegame.com/watch/Bl_d_DKs...akTharon_Keep/
A good video and no comments... Tis a shame!
I see you switched over to the Dark Side.... err I mean, you went deeper into Blood. How are you liking Heart Strike?
Also, I sent you a message, did you not get it?
very cool! Like the video. I finished most of Zuldrak today(questing) and plowed through Gun and DK with a few deaths(I suck! /cry). How are you liking the deeper blood? One thing I noticed when I respec'd my guys for more healing is their dps blows chunks(800ish per slave was over 1k dps per slave at 72, lol.) However I haven't done a "clean" dps meter in a while. My guys are all 77 now, woot flyers.
LOL! I don't know yet. I cleared it once more last night with the old spec and decided to go and change a couple of things....then didn't get a chance to try it yet. I will let you know soon though. By the way Zero, did you see the drop from Gal'darah in Gundrak: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43306 And also the quested ring: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43179 Guess I know what I will be doing for the next several days =) Enough defense in ONE of those rings to replace both of my current ones I have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID=175504 #post175504
All I know is I have came to the conclusion that I can't live without my fulltime pet(s) from the Unholy Side, they just help too much when glyphed properly. The other two, Blood HAS to have aura 2/2. The other points are going to be negotiable on which is best and for what purpose. The jury is still out! =) I simply cannot wait for 80 with Army of Dead x 5. That is gonna be an awesome sight! Should (Heroics?) make bosses easier I would think too.
I will probably do Drak'Tharon 1-2 more times and test out the new spec, then I am headed to Gundrak where I will live til I am close to 80. How are you doing with levelling and accomplishments? By the way, I responded to your PM.
What are you using for your Rotation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=175604#po st175604][font='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?
Wow… yeah, those would be nice right now. I still need to farm AN a few more times to get the rest of my rings. I have mixed results there, one time it’s a full clear no wipes, next, one or two die. Could be because I am 72, 73 doing it, so they are able to hit me hard, and my Defense is still low, so once again, it’s random that those beetles go enraged and wtfcritmyface for 4500 damage. I had my Brother-in-Law make me an assload of Defense pots, and that will get me to my 535 threshold, which will make things easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Furystrike',index.php?page=Thread&postID=175608#p ost175608
I know most of the people doing this might not have those types of connections, so I’ve not used them at all in my movies. However, when I use them outside of the movies, its easier, I can tell.
With having the lower defense, my chances are based on a random % on how well I time my CD’s. If i pay attention while I’m running a dungeon and not watching a movie, I don’t Phuk up and die, and I stay at roughly 90% not going to die. If I just start spamming while doing something else, it goes to 50/50.
Yeah, I keep waiting for the day to run into an Arena and summon 25 Pets and go to town on a group… lol. *waits a few hours to do a search on Google “This OP boxer with 5 DKs cheated and wiped the floor with us in a matter of seconds, boxing should be nerfed because of this.”*
I wish I could level faster. I’m involved in a Governmental job that has me working random hours and it causes a lot of mental stress. Also, I over think things a lot, so I have to dive into it and make sure the box is really only 6 sided and not 7.. or more… OoooOooohhh.
They are all sitting at 73, but hopefully by the end of this weekend, they will be 76 to 77ish.
*Grumbles* *puts on tinfoil cap*
/target Government
/finger
Unfortunately Army of Dead is a 20 min cooldown, so it's a no-go in arenas. World PVP on the other hand, muhahahha. You can talent it to make the CD 10 mins, but that's going a lil too deep in Unholy for what we are doing.
Well crap... I do believe I have met my match. Don't think I can do Drak at 73.... lol. Will have to wait till 74, lol.
HAHAHAHA.... wooops, jumped to a conclusion, I didn't have frost up, lol...
What are you using for your Rotation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID=175610# post175610][quote='Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=17 5604#post175604][font='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]
I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...
edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom
So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.
Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =(
Heh, Cleared it with one death as soon as I figured out that I was doing it in Unholy Presence. I was taking on 2-3 mobs and getting my ass handed to me, I couldn't figure it out. Then I noticed I was running a little faster through the Dungeon...
*DOH!* lol.
What are you using for your Rotation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=175750#po st175750]
[quote='Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID= 175610#post175610]
[quote='Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=17 5604#post175604][font='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]
I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...
edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom
So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.
Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =([/quote]
Sooo... wait, what spec are you? I assume enough into Blood to get the Aura, but you didn't get Heart strike or anything else? Or are you using the Fury Spec?
Are you not using Rune Strike? That's a rather large part of the DPS we can get. If you get it to go with Heart Strike (so that it can get big crits on 2 mobs) or get a 3.5+K crits with Obliterate like I'm getting now.
Throwing this out there to see if someone knows this. I’m wanting to use a cast sequence with Rune Strike within my attack combo. But if it’s not up, it cancels that combo till it comes up, is there a certain type of script that I need to put into the combo that looks at the attack and only uses the attack when it is up if not, then keep on with the next attack? I know it’s a condition that I need to put into the castsequence. Something like:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] reset=6/combat/shift/target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Rune Strike;[mod:ctrl] Death Coil
I don’t want to have to hit the mod to cast it, I just want it to work when it’s up. Or is there no such thing?
What are you using for your Rotation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID=175880# post175880][quote='Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=17 5750#post175750]
[quote='Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID= 175610#post175610]
[quote='Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=17 5604#post175604][font='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]
I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...
edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom
So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.
Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =([/quote]
Sooo... wait, what spec are you? I assume enough into Blood to get the Aura, but you didn't get Heart strike or anything else? Or are you using the Fury Spec?
Are you not using Rune Strike? That's a rather large part of the DPS we can get. If you get it to go with Heart Strike (so that it can get big crits on 2 mobs) or get a 3.5+K crits with Obliterate like I'm getting now.
Throwing this out there to see if someone knows this. I’m wanting to use a cast sequence with Rune Strike within my attack combo. But if it’s not up, it cancels that combo till it comes up, is there a certain type of script that I need to put into the combo that looks at the attack and only uses the attack when it is up if not, then keep on with the next attack? I know it’s a condition that I need to put into the castsequence. Something like:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] reset=6/combat/shift/target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Rune Strike;[mod:ctrl] Death Coil
I don’t want to have to hit the mod to cast it, I just want it to work when it’s up. Or is there no such thing?[/quote]
You can use /castrandom with null spots followed by /cast or /castsequence for some psudo priority logic, it's not a perfect solution but it can be made to work "ok" in some situations
/castrandom rune strike,
/castsequence blah, blah, blah, etc
when you hit the null spot, you pass through to the castsequence
Keep up the awesome vids 8)
What are you using for your Rotation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID=175880# post175880][quote='Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=17 5750#post175750]
[quote='Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID= 175610#post175610]
[quote='Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=17 5604#post175604][font='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif
Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]
I avoid runestrike as I dont want to be rune starved if I need a certain ass-saving ability that requires rune energy. I guess I could use it, I just dont like to think I might not have runic when I need it. Besides thats only my tank, it really doesnt help my slaves that are almost exactly the same dps... lol.
I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...
edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom
So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.
Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =([/quote]
Sooo... wait, what spec are you? I assume enough into Blood to get the Aura, but you didn't get Heart strike or anything else? Or are you using the Fury Spec?
Are you not using Rune Strike? That's a rather large part of the DPS we can get. If you get it to go with Heart Strike (so that it can get big crits on 2 mobs) or get a 3.5+K crits with Obliterate like I'm getting now.
Throwing this out there to see if someone knows this. I’m wanting to use a cast sequence with Rune Strike within my attack combo. But if it’s not up, it cancels that combo till it comes up, is there a certain type of script that I need to put into the combo that looks at the attack and only uses the attack when it is up if not, then keep on with the next attack? I know it’s a condition that I need to put into the castsequence. Something like:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] reset=6/combat/shift/target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Rune Strike;[mod:ctrl] Death Coil
I don’t want to have to hit the mod to cast it, I just want it to work when it’s up. Or is there no such thing?[/quote]
WTF it ate my reply.
I dont use rune strike, because I worry that I wont have runic power available when I need it as a tank for ass-saving abilities. But really it only benefits the tank, the slaves are almost the same dps (slightly higher) and my tank is mostly frost and geared like a tank... I dont think they should be that close.
P.S. My guys are 78 now and starting Storm Peaks for the first time, I skipped it on my first crew since they hit 80 in Icecrown. I am going to try Halls of Lightning when I get a chance. I cant right now as my GF is home in a few minutes and hates WoW. =)
If you get bored....between clearing Drak'Tharon or Gundrak go over the the Argent Defender area in Zul'Drak and kill the opposing faction. It is quite fun. Kill the guards while you are at it and you will vacate the premises of any "red" names in a hurry - LOL. Oh, cleared Gundrak without a problem. Will post the video later. 0 deaths on the bosses. Died once to trash when I accidentally disabled key broadcasts - WHOOPSIE!!! Lol.
What are you using for your Rotation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Varmon',index.php?page=Thread&postID=175888#post17 5888]
[quote='Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID= 175880#post175880]
[quote='Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=17 5750#post175750]
[quote='Zerocool2024',index.php?page=Thread&postID= 175610#post175610]
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Using castsequence or hotkey Per Attack? (HkPA)
You can’t always assume the test dummy is going to give the perfect DPS rotation. I would get over 1K on dummy, and 600 to 700ish in field.
Add in Parry, Dodge, Miss, Me moving around trying to set myself up, casting other spells like Mark of Blood, IBF, Vamp, anything and everything that I don’t use on Dummy. It can give you a decent range of where its going to be.
Or are you saying that your DPS was 1K in field at 72 and now it’s lower?[/quote]
I use /castsequence for the first two Icy Touch and Plague Strike and then I have a second button that /castrandom Blood Boil and Deathcoil... I have to log in and check it lol I forget if thats what it is...
edit: ok good thing I looked it up
one button:
Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike on a /castsequence
other: Obliterate, Death Coil on a /castrandom
So I spam the first attack until I see everyone has their debuff on mob and lots of energy and then spam the second button until runes are on cooldown and then start all over. I believe the one I listed there is the tank one, unsure.
Also I wish I could spec into boneshield and keep worms and blood aura... bone shield is just too damn awesome =([/quote]
Sooo... wait, what spec are you? I assume enough into Blood to get the Aura, but you didn't get Heart strike or anything else? Or are you using the Fury Spec?
Are you not using Rune Strike? That's a rather large part of the DPS we can get. If you get it to go with Heart Strike (so that it can get big crits on 2 mobs) or get a 3.5+K crits with Obliterate like I'm getting now.
Throwing this out there to see if someone knows this. I’m wanting to use a cast sequence with Rune Strike within my attack combo. But if it’s not up, it cancels that combo till it comes up, is there a certain type of script that I need to put into the combo that looks at the attack and only uses the attack when it is up if not, then keep on with the next attack? I know it’s a condition that I need to put into the castsequence. Something like:
#showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] reset=6/combat/shift/target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Heart Strike, Death Strike, Rune Strike;[mod:ctrl] Death Coil
I don’t want to have to hit the mod to cast it, I just want it to work when it’s up. Or is there no such thing?[/quote]
You can use /castrandom with null spots followed by /cast or /castsequence for some psudo priority logic, it's not a perfect solution but it can be made to work "ok" in some situations
/castrandom rune strike,
/castsequence blah, blah, blah, etc
when you hit the null spot, you pass through to the castsequence
Keep up the awesome vids 8)[/quote]You know... wow, that just gave me a crazy idea on how to setup my macros.
I've just been using /castsequence the whole time, but now that I came across the /click post and then went to Wiki Macro something clicked... no pun intended. I'm at work again.. stupid Mandatory Saturdays. I will wait till I get home before divulging what I "think" may work for the better. 8)
Do tell!
Simple fix for the Rune Strike
/castsequence reset=target/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, .....
/cast !Rune Strike
Since Rune Strike doesn't trigger a GCD, you can add it to the end of any macro. The ! means don't toggle it, just turn it on. So basically if there is a Rune Strike up, you'll use it on you next swing.
Here is an actual macro I use on my DK. It's no the greatest DPS, but it's her self heal for soloing old world raid bosses spam macro.
I use the Icebound Fort glyph so I never have to worry about RP for that. I pretty much count on my RP getting used up for Rune Strike and if I top off, I throw a DC in there.Code:#showtooltip
/startattack
/castsequence reset=target/alt Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Death Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike, Obliterate, Death Strike, Heart Strike, Heart Strike
/cast Blood Tap
/cast !Rune Strike
You guys are making me think about leveling a 5 team of DKs. Is there a post with more info on what you're running and how you've got things set up?
- Souca -
Funny you should mention that... There is something in the works. We will have it to you shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Souca',index.php?page=Thread&postID=176854#post17 6854
Also, thanks for the Rune Strike thing, I for some reason kept reading it wrong, and I have no idea why I was doing that, I kept on thinking that it if I parried and or whatever, and used it on the next attack than that "attack" has the added damage from Rune Strike. I have no idea why I read it that way, because I kept on looking at the description.
I came across the !Rune Strike, but kept thinking the above. Lol. Not the first time I've done that.
Yea. For the longest time I wasn't sure if Rune Strike worked when I parried or when the mob parried. I think the original tooltip just said "when an attack is parried or dodged". I kept wondering who it was that parried or dodged.
As for the writeups, I saw a spec from one of the posts, and I'm just gonna see if I can't make it work. I have my 80 DK to base a lot of my guesses on. Only thing I'm pondering now is which race to use for alliance on a PvP server. Draenei self heal vs human PvP trinket vs nelf shadowmeld.
- Souca -
I regret not taking orcs, because I clearly dont care about pvp. 5% more pet damage and the bonus for using axes.... sigh.
Would you guys recommend using castsequence or castrandom macros? I've tried both and personally I prefer castrandom. Just wondered what you guys think?
One thing I have found is that when I spam my macro, once there is a cool down, my slaves will just stand there and not auto attack. Suggestions? (I've already added a /startattack at the beginning of the macro).
Let see lets see..... I prefer the:Quote:
Originally Posted by 'jinx08',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177164#post1 77164
/startattack
/castsequence reset-target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Pestilence, Howling Blast, Blood Strike, Etc...
Now, I am using Jamba, and the Strobe follow command, so they will attack and follow, they won't stop till I make them stop. If you use:
/startattack
/follow
/castrandom reset=target blah, blah blah, blah... You get the picture
/follow
Then you will have to spam the attack to get them to follow you, and the second they hit the target, they stop following you so now you have to spam it just to get them to follow...
/castrandom is fine, but, say you did Howling Blast, Icy Touch,Plague strike, pestilence... Your Howling Blast just did crap for DPS because it went first.
In the correct order, when mine hits, and it crits often, it's now hitting for 3K to 3.3K *5...
Others have found that having each attack in their separate hotkey is not better than /cast, but more control and or they are just used to that sort of way.
Also, some have stated that their DPS drops because of castsequence, or castrandom... I don't see a difference in my string of attacks.
I did a test dummy attack last night on the same level dummy 75, and I was peaking at 1500DPS (of course, I was hitting 3 mobs) but then again, its not that far off hitting a single target.
I guess, reading your macro, that you aren't using an FTL setup? Otherwise your castsequence would keep resetting after the first spell due to the reset=target condition. I use the FTL setup, and use reset=combat. (Should i also include a 'time' condition in there too)?
Do you think the constant switching checking of the target to the leader from the slaves is resetting the auto swing timer? its so frustrating when the slaves just stand there being hit when the runes are on cool down.
No, not using that systemQuote:
Originally Posted by 'jinx08',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177216#post1 77216
slaves:
/assist focus
/startattack
/castsequence ETC...
For you.
A problem with using castsequences exists, when you use 'reset=' with conditions which are depending on the actual target or modifiers, namely:
reset=target
reset=alt
reset=shift
reset=ctrl
Some conditions which would work fine with the system are:
reset=3 (time conditions)
reset=combat
for the 'reset=modifier' there is, in the basic ftl setup no real workaround known, because the modifiers are used to identify who the leader is.
The 'reset=target' can be used, if you don't depend on the 'targetless', then you can get rid of the '/targetlasttarget'. Because a simple assist shouldn't change the target of your slave when the leader doesn'T change it.
Not all that familiar with the FTL, I somewhat understand how it works, but I am more of a Focus type of guy, and have not had a problem with it at all.
Bleh, quit being lazy and trying to use castsequence commands. That may be cool for casters, but you are playing melee gentlemen. Missing one swing or getting off on your rotations will SCREW YOU in dps and could cost you the fight or losing to a boss. Do it manually and be ready to react to any given situation. By the way, I cleared Ulduar: Halls of Stone last night. Expect a movie soon =)
Heh, I probably should, but when I come to a point where it fails me, I will switch.
Btw, just cleared Gundrak at 75 with one piece of the Tempered Saronite on the main.
Wont lie, they beat me silly, was doing while my armor was being made.
reset=target works with FTL, I forget if you have to use /assist on it or whatnot (since /assist tank1 wont change target as long as your tank doesnt)
I use FTL and I love it for PvP... PvE it has some drawbacks(like really fricking huge macros), but one very nice thing about FTL is if your main dies you can switch immediately to a slave and begin hammering away again without having to change focus, etc.
I use FTL and I use cast sequences. I don't reset on target, but not because of the FTL since I use assist and don't targetlasttarget. The problem is that things die way to fast, and a reset=target would put me back at the start of a rotation with runes on cooldown. I'm currently using a time based reset, but combat might replace that since timing it is tricky. I could also get rid the reset all together since I've staggered my rotations on my characters. I didn't like there not being an Icy Touch to open up with.
As for doing it mannually? How? If one character misses a swing and gets out of synch, I don't want to have to try and micromanage them so that they can correct while the other characters wait or continue on with there rotation. I make sure I don't have anything in my sequence that would have to wait for more than a rune cooldown. I also tune my sequences so that they make correct use of death runes and try to have diseases up before they oblit or ss.
- Souca -