Vista is officially pissing me off

Rebooted my PC today, and was ready to do some multiboxing. I noticed when I logged in after the reboot that my hard drive light was on solid and stayed on, and I could hear the hard drive chunking like theres no tomorrow. Task manager showed NO processes using the hard drive at all even viewing processes from all users (I/O read and write showed that nothing was using I/O). This confused me, but I assumed the only thing that would be spamming the HD like crazy would be the windows indexing...even though I had turned it off (by setting the service to manual) when I first installed Vista.

Low and behold, I looked and the service was still set to manual but it was "Started" - wtf? Microsoft is fucking lame. So, I disable the service which of course doesn't stop the HD from spamming. Now I'm already pissed but I decide to just reboot the computer and hope that when it comes back the service won't be started and everything will be OK. I hit restart, and it goes to the "Windows is Shutting Down" screen... and stays there. For 10 minutes. And its still there, and the hard drive is still going crazy, until I get so pissed I just hit the hard reset button. System comes back up, I log in, the HD light stops, I think "Ok great". Well, 2 minutes later it comes back on full force and its been on for the last 10 minutes. Nothing in task manager showing what might be using I/O, windows search service is now disabled and NOT started, and I have no way of knowing apparently what is accessing my hard drive because the Windows task manager is the most worthless monitoring tool ever invented.

PEBKAC.

The performance monitoring in Vista is ages better than the one in XP. It is very simple to tell what service is thrashing your disk. Manual setting of a service does not mean it's disabled, they can still start in manual under certain conditions. Perhaps you should have set the service to gee I don't know...DISABLED?

Then again you chose a dual-core over a quad-core for multiboxing, so this doesn't surprise me. Imma go get a rowboat for your river of tears....brb.

Well Senior System Admin, can't figure out how to use a brand new OS? 8)

It's not just indexing that hammers the crap out of your hard drive after Vista boots... the prefetcher does it too. You might want to look into disabling that as well, although it'll probably increase certain application load times.

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Originally Posted by 'd0z3rr',index.php?page=Thread&postID=166049#post1 66049

PEBKAC.

The performance monitoring in Vista is ages better than the one in XP. It is very simple to tell what service is thrashing your disk. Manual setting of a service does not mean it's disabled, they can still start in manual under certain conditions. Perhaps you should have set the service to gee I don't know...DISABLED?

Then again you chose a dual-core over a quad-core for multiboxing, so this doesn't surprise me. Imma go get a rowboat for your river of tears....brb.

Well Senior System Admin, can't figure out how to use a brand new OS? 8)

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And apparently you can't read. At all. Immediately after that I said I disabled the service (which by the way stopped nothing), and then rebooted, checked the service which was no longer running, and my HD was still going crazy anyway, for 20+ minutes before it stopped. Oh did I mention the performance monitor showed no disk activity? Better than XP? It looks almost the exact same and doesn't appear to show any information I couldn't get from XP (which was also worthless).

Second, I didn't choose a dual core processor for multiboxing, I've had this processor since long before I started playing more than 1 copy of WoW. Now you're just being an ass for absolutely no reason. The only reason I considered upgrading to another dual core processor is because it was $70 vs $170 for a quad core and I don't feel like throwing random quantities of money at a single video game.

Third, I'm a Sr. Unix/SAN System Admin (which by the way pays almost twice what windows system admins get paid) who happened to work with windows for many years but haven't since around the time Windows XP came out. Lame ass problems like this are the reasons I stopped caring about windows and stopped working with it, because Microsoft can't get their shit together enough to make an operating system worth managing.

Fourth, please don't post in my threads anymore, you're completely unhelpful and rude as hell to boot. Another reason to avoid windows and anyone who likes it.

/drama

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Originally Posted by 'Ozbert',index.php?page=Thread&postID=166056#post1 66056

It's not just indexing that hammers the crap out of your hard drive after Vista boots... the prefetcher does it too. You might want to look into disabling that as well, although it'll probably increase certain application load times.

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Interesting - I've only had Vista installed for a week but I can say this is the first time it's happened. I also don't have anything installed except firefox, WoW, and keyclone - not sure what it would be prefetching.

I had that happen to my pc and I found what was doing it. I cant remember for sure but I think it was superfetch. It happened once I installed the service pack. I hope I can remember how to find it and disable it because I just built a new system but have not downloaded the service pack yet.

I use Ubuntu on all my computers. Wow runs quite nicely with Wine.

With Vista, or any Windows OS, I've learned to disable every service that's not needed for me to play games. My gaming machine which I surf on, has a few more services running, but the PC I use strictly for gaming has just about everything turned off.

Everything in task scheduler? OFF!! All of it. There are a lot of Windows services that most people don't need to have running, but they leave them on anyway cause they don't know what most services do. Sometimes the descriptions are not very intuitive either.

If you need a definitive list go to Black Viper's website. About all he does is game and tweak his systems, listing everything to turn off and things to leave on that are essential for Windows to run correctly. It's pretty comprehensive and occasionally not for the faint of heart, (mainly his registry tweaks), but if you're really wanting to know what does what on your system, Black Viper breaks it down.

http://www.blackviper.com

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Originally Posted by 'Vicker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=166094#post1 66094

I use Ubuntu on all my computers. Wow runs quite nicely with Wine.

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I actually thought about doing this before getting Vista but retracted it since my wife uses the PC sometimes as well and we use it for some other purposes that would make this a bit more of a headache then I wanted right now. I ran Debian Linux on my home PC for a good 5 years without a single Windows computer in the house and only installed XP a couple years ago for a couple games I couldn't play on Wine or Wine-X, its just stayed that way for awhile. Still tempted to go with Linux again anyway just to get this glorified virus off my PC though :)

I initially found vista to be a complete pain in the ass. Since service pack 1, its been a pretty decent operating system.
Prior to service pack 1, every single time I installed a creative update to my sound card or a windows security update, my system sound and dvd player stopped working until I did a system restore.
The second time I installed the updates everything went fine... which was more then a little annoying.

Since SP1, I've had no issues with it.

When Windows 7 finally releases, will we think of Vista like how we think of Windows ME? Unnecessary, useless and a utter waste of time?

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Originally Posted by 'Ozbert',index.php?page=Thread&postID=166056#post1 66056

It's not just indexing that hammers the crap out of your hard drive after Vista boots... the prefetcher does it too. You might want to look into disabling that as well, although it'll probably increase certain application load times.

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Interesting - I've only had Vista installed for a week but I can say this is the first time it's happened. I also don't have anything installed except firefox, WoW, and keyclone - not sure what it would be prefetching.

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If you've only had it a week, did you have auto updates on? This kind of activity could be from Vista trying to install SP1...and a reboot wouldnt fix it - it would just reset the whole process.

Cheers,
S.

I still use Win2K on my main computer, but I bit the bullet I upgraded to XP on my 5 slaves.

I tried Vista about 8 months ago and gave up on it.

I hear good things about Win7 though.

Also for I thinks AMD duel core is faster for our use (I am pretty sure I will know for sure this week when I upgrade my motherboards) cause the clock rate is faster ....

I shut down a lot of those services that I dont use also.

This thread made me laugh

Mr Admin, in your years of being an overpaid Unix/SAN-whatever, did you not learn not to use hard reboots?

So what if the disk is working, just leave it, it'll finish sooner or later.

Also, Resource monitor from the performance tab in task mangager, expand the "Disk" area, then watch what processes and files are being written and read to and from.

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Vista is officially pissing me off

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Welcome to what 95%+ of the PC user base has already realized.

Vista is shit. Hence the reason Microsoft is pushing Windows 7 so hard.

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98% of all facts are made up on the spot. Way to spread the FUD.

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Originally Posted by 'Hachoo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=166067#post1 66067

Third, I'm a Sr. Unix/SAN System Admin (which by the way pays almost twice what windows system admins get paid)

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HA! I lol'd pretty good there. I guess that means you make twice as much as I do?! I am inferior, I bow to your immense salary.

Vista pisses me off too. Specifically because I spent 8 hours Saturday reverting BACK to XP from the colossal clusterfuck I created trying to move 2 XP machines to Vista 64. Then I got to spend 45 minutes in line returning my 2 vista boxes.


But what pisses me off even more, is regulars around here being dickheads to other regulars. Go be dickheads on WoW General forums.