New ele Shammy Changes 3.1

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11-25-2008, 11:35 PM
Multibocks

OMFG FINALLY!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue

We are making some upcoming changes to the Elemental shaman tree. Our goal was to streamline a few of the utility-based talents while giving shamans a little more damage scaling in later tiers of gear.

Unrelenting Storm � reduced from 5 points to 3 points. Bonus is 4/8/12% of your Intellect returned as mana.
Elemental Warding � now reduces all damage (not just Nature, Fire and Frost) taken by 2/4/6%
Elemental Shields � this talent has been removed, since its effects were combined with Elemental Warding.
Storm, Earth and Fire � reduced from 5 points to 3 points, but keeps around the same net benefit. In addition to current effects, also increases Wind Shock range. The damage bonus to Flame Shock has increased to 60% at 3 ranks. Storm, Earth and Fire has been moved up the tree as well.
Shamanism � this is a new 5 point talent in the old Storm, Earth and Fire position. Your Lightning Bolt and Lava Burst gain an additional percentage of your bonus damage. We have not finalized the numbers, but it will probably be something like 10% for Lightning Bolt and 20% for Lava Burst at max ranks.

These changes will be available in the next minor content patch, and are in addition to the AE changes mentioned previously.

REJOICE!!!
11-25-2008, 11:37 PM
Ellay

HOLLAAAAAAAAAAAA
11-25-2008, 11:38 PM
Ellay

On a more serious note, this is great news :)
11-25-2008, 11:48 PM
algol

Nice.

But it looks like we lose a talent point. Four points freed up, another five to spend. The devs giveth, and the devs taketh away with the other hand. 8|

I don't entirely follow why the fire totem changes equal major AoE changes...anyone want to explain that one?
11-26-2008, 12:01 AM
Pact

A Single Magma Totem does alot more pew pew just under par with mage and warlock aoe i believe. So for us boxers we can just drop magma totems now for trash and afk.

..Hopefully
11-26-2008, 12:11 AM
Zal

ARGGG!!! I was just gonna make a post about this. Beat me to it ><
CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MORE OP TO BEGIN!!!! :thumbsup:
11-26-2008, 12:20 AM
Tasty

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Pact',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152187#post152 187

A Single Magma Totem does alot more pew pew just under par with mage and warlock aoe i believe. So for us boxers we can just drop magma totems now for trash and afk.

..Hopefully

<Generic Mage Redundancy QQ>

:)

:(

Grats shaman :D
11-26-2008, 12:20 AM
Ellay

They said the Magma totem will be ticking for about 600 damage every 2 seconds and it starts out aggroless so it doesn't get whacked. While this is down x4 or however many you have you can do other things, while other AoE classes are very limited in what they can do. This is a large boon to us.
11-26-2008, 12:39 AM
Chaosomega

Dam it i was about to make a post about this too!

Beat me too it, not fair.

So maybe at 80 currently 1500 spell power is about 300 dmg which obviously will scale more with gear, but hey thats about 800 more dmg on crits,

for multiboxers that 800x5 = 4000 more dmg.

Hey from 40k to 44k crit lava burst, notbad... still overkill but not bad...
11-26-2008, 12:40 AM
Chaosomega

btw Ellay and Zal, ishidia is better then ichi or ryukia (if thats how you spell her name)
11-26-2008, 12:46 AM
algol

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Originally Posted by 'Ellay',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152197#post15 2197

They said the Magma totem will be ticking for about 600 damage every 2 seconds and it starts out aggroless so it doesn't get whacked. While this is down x4 or however many you have you can do other things, while other AoE classes are very limited in what they can do. This is a large boon to us.

Hooooly...the "no threat" part means mobs won't aggro onto Nova & Magma? I thought it just meant they wouldn't count towards the caster's threat. That would be rather useful, especially if the magma DPS buff is substantial.
11-26-2008, 12:47 AM
Sam DeathWalker

Now we talking. Magma Totem X 25, no more quests 4 me! I'm there dude!

Comon Patch!

Ya the "other things" be casting heals ...

I just hopes a Prot Pally can pull 30 or 40 mobs ....
11-26-2008, 12:53 AM
Stealthy

This is great news!

BTW, you get no exp if your totem kills a mob without you damaging it - just like hunter pets. So no AFK for you!!! :P

Cheers,
S.
11-26-2008, 12:58 AM
Pact

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Originally Posted by 'Stealthy',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152209#pos t152209

This is great news!

BTW, you get no exp if your totem kills a mob without you damaging it - just like hunter pets. So no AFK for you!!! :P

Cheers,
S.

Ok fine......ill drop magma and then cast chain heal on everyone :)
11-26-2008, 01:05 AM
Sam DeathWalker

Quote:

"BTW, you get no exp if your totem kills a mob without you damaging it - just like hunter pets. So no AFK for you!!! "

Humm seems like some possible boosting tricks could come into play. Still thunderstorm at the higher levels will do damage.
11-26-2008, 01:15 AM
algol

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152212#p ost152212

Humm seems like some possible boosting tricks could come into play. Still thunderstorm at the higher levels will do damage.

Or at least tag mobs before you kill 'em with magma.
11-26-2008, 01:54 AM
Fizzler

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152207#p ost152207

Now we talking. Magma Totem X 25, no more quests 4 me! I'm there dude!

Comon Patch!

Ya the "other things" be casting heals ...

I just hopes a Prot Pally can pull 30 or 40 mobs ....

The only place I have successfully pulled over 20 mobs without them peeling back off is in an instance. Leveling 25 of anything at the same time I would think would take longer and lead to poppin' more antacid than its worth.

I cant wait until this comes out I have never much liked the searing totems.
11-26-2008, 02:55 AM
Zal

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Chaosomega',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152205#p ost152205

btw Ellay and Zal, ishidia is better then ichi or ryukia (if thats how you spell her name)

NEVER!!!, ichigo's a visard... and has bankai ishidia isn't better, or stronger, or faster... maybe smarter though

lol random sidetrack
11-26-2008, 03:05 AM
algol

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Originally Posted by 'Zal',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152231#post1522 31

NEVER!!!, ichigo's a visard... and has bankai ishidia isn't better, or stronger, or faster... maybe smarter though

lol random sidetrack

Um, okay.
11-26-2008, 05:07 AM
Ughmahedhurtz

[WoW] Upcoming AoE changes

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...91294995&sid=1

You shammy types should love these changes.

On the other hand, lots more AE means lots more AE being used against stacked multiboxers. :P
11-26-2008, 05:18 AM
bodefeld

G'morning shamans! What a nice post to wake up to.
(smiles and gets some coffee)
11-26-2008, 05:34 AM
Chaosomega

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Originally Posted by 'algol',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152233#post15 2233

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Zal',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152231#post1522 31

NEVER!!!, ichigo's a visard... and has bankai ishidia isn't better, or stronger, or faster... maybe smarter though

lol random sidetrack

Um, okay.

BUT... ishida shoots stuff out of his hands, like... goku, and goku can shoot more stuff... LIKE our shamans! Oh, see i like ishida more because hes like our shamans, therefore since you like ichi more, you dont like shamans as much do you? O.o

Traitor! haha jk, ur shamans prob. own me cuz im only 65...
11-26-2008, 05:43 AM
Iceorbz

Really no change to us from what I can read, other then our totems wont get smacked soon as they are laid down.

We already get AoE'ed. I believe the blizzard guy is refering to like, ive done Nexus and UK with all melee lol. No CC what-so-ever, and that has passed onto alot of instances, from what my guildies tell me you can do all non heroics without a single CC.
11-26-2008, 05:57 AM
Saevio

Nice changes, though I'll probably still stay away from Elemental Warding, 3 points better spent elsewhere.

PS. Anime is silly.
11-26-2008, 06:45 AM
Chaosomega

ur silly :_(
11-26-2008, 07:19 AM
Creazil

I've done alot of heroics now .. 4 shamans, and I haven't used Hex once .. (mostly because I haven't keybinded it). It's not needed at all, granted your tank is alright geared.
11-26-2008, 09:32 AM
Meathead

New ele Shammy Changes 3.1

Well to keep you guys upto date here are the new ele changes

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/1311...n-changes.html

Hope you like them cause i do :D
11-26-2008, 09:44 AM
blbjtb

Oh my GOD i think i just came a little...Yup i did crap and before work as well.
11-26-2008, 09:47 AM
Xinxo

Already posted here:

OMFG FINALLY!!!!!
11-26-2008, 10:25 AM
Schwarz

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Araketh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152273#post 152273

Nice changes, though I'll probably still stay away from Elemental Warding, 3 points better spent elsewhere.

For people with tanks I agree. But this is a very nice ability if you are running 5 shaman. Being able to take more damage is always a good thing. The thing that I will be staying away from is unrelenting storm. There are few times that I am starved for mana (unless I am spamming healing) so right now this talent does no good for me. I think I had to take 1 point in it to advance to the next tier in my current spec.
11-26-2008, 10:43 AM
David

Great news indeed. Finially elemental shamans recieve some good lovin. Now that new aoe spell please!
11-26-2008, 12:01 PM
Saevio

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Schwarz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152323#post 152323

For people with tanks I agree. But this is a very nice ability if you are running 5 shaman.

Very true!
11-26-2008, 12:15 PM
Catamer

my shaman prayers have been answered ( or going to be )

we had to squeal like stuck pigs to get these fixes.
11-26-2008, 12:40 PM
Multibocks

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Originally Posted by 'Schwarz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152323#post 152323

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Araketh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152273#post 152273

Nice changes, though I'll probably still stay away from Elemental Warding, 3 points better spent elsewhere.

For people with tanks I agree. But this is a very nice ability if you are running 5 shaman. Being able to take more damage is always a good thing. The thing that I will be staying away from is unrelenting storm. There are few times that I am starved for mana (unless I am spamming healing) so right now this talent does no good for me. I think I had to take 1 point in it to advance to the next tier in my current spec.

I run oom all the time in PvP and this is with unrelenting storm, I'm real hesitant to drop it. Also my boss fights where they have 300k+ health I have to remind myself to TS or they run oom there too.
11-26-2008, 01:42 PM
Lyonheart

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Originally Posted by 'Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152361#p ost152361

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Schwarz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152323#post 152323

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Araketh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152273#post 152273

Nice changes, though I'll probably still stay away from Elemental Warding, 3 points better spent elsewhere.

For people with tanks I agree. But this is a very nice ability if you are running 5 shaman. Being able to take more damage is always a good thing. The thing that I will be staying away from is unrelenting storm. There are few times that I am starved for mana (unless I am spamming healing) so right now this talent does no good for me. I think I had to take 1 point in it to advance to the next tier in my current spec.

I run oom all the time in PvP and this is with unrelenting storm, I'm real hesitant to drop it. Also my boss fights where they have 300k+ health I have to remind myself to TS or they run oom there too.

You keep all mana totems down? i never have mana issues unless I do something stupid and have to chain heal too many times. Even then I have not had one boss fight where i ran out of mana. I refresh water shield, keep mana totems down. I've cleared UK, Nex, and both spider zones so far.

And on topic>> WOOT!!!! I use nova/magma all the time when clearing trash. I am soooo happy about this!! 8)
11-26-2008, 01:50 PM
TheBigBB

The title of this thread amuses me. It took all of a couple weeks for them to fine tune the shaman. You guys should have never worried. :thumbsup:
11-26-2008, 01:55 PM
Bollwerk

RE: OMFG FINALLY!!!!!

Anyone have a link to this on the Blizzard forums? I can't find it. I want to believe it, but I take things with a grain of salt until I see "proof". =)
11-26-2008, 01:58 PM
Schwarz

I would agree that in pvp it is easy to run out of mana. I find myself spamming chain lightning every time I have the chance. This will eat away at your mana pool pretty quickly.

Only times I ran into mana problems in PVE was when I first dinged 70 and did kara. Since then I haven't had a problem. I was messing around with the training dummies last night too see how much dps adding a mage would bring. I was timing how long it took for me to go from full mana to oom just casting lightning bolts. It took close to 2 mins to empty my mana pool. Heroic boss fights were usually 15-30 seconds for me.

Unrelenting storm isn't a bad talent. I just wouldn't take this over a talent that will increase your overall dps.
11-26-2008, 02:33 PM
mmcookies

"hooray!"
- cirno
11-26-2008, 02:39 PM
emesis

RE: RE: OMFG FINALLY!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Bollwerk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=152385#pos t152385

Anyone have a link to this on the Blizzard forums? I can't find it. I want to believe it, but I take things with a grain of salt until I see "proof". =)

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...15791748&sid=1

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