I am about to cancel this game. I cannot travel 10 feet in storm peaks without follow breaking.. Then I get unknown unit as my guys vanish. If this is what we can expect there really is no way to multibox unless you stay out of these zones.
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I am about to cancel this game. I cannot travel 10 feet in storm peaks without follow breaking.. Then I get unknown unit as my guys vanish. If this is what we can expect there really is no way to multibox unless you stay out of these zones.
I had the same problem in the Borean Tundra, some weird mist debuff, and lost /follow and had to manually move into the mist to get it to work. extremely annoying.
this isnt mist.. The characters just vanish. I can be on my mount sitting on the ground and move forward and vanish. Maybe this is Bliz way to prevent us from multiboxing. Most all the boss fights are anti boxers so I wouldnt doubt it.
That happens at high elevation areas :( it happened a lot flying around in TBC, just something to deal with ;/
I occasionally got a similar bug occur when I hearthed in TBC. 4 out of 5 characters would turn up on each other's screen, but the fifth (random toon, not always the same) would hearth normally, but the rest of the team would not be on the screen, nor would the others be able to see that one. It was almost as if that toon would hearth to a different server. They would still be able to move and interact with other players and vendors, but not with the group members. Hopefully this problem is just an occasional bug also, or at least limited to a portion of the game that won't impact genereal play too much.
Ohh I've had this happen also.
My four slave toons will disappear from the main toon's view. But they are still there, just invisible.
Spooky.
It's not a bug, it's the in-zone instance-ization. They broke up each zone into instances that load seamlessly. When you cross a line while flying you lose follow :/ Once you travel around a bit you'll find out where the lines are.
you can see data loss from time to time. multibox users will notice it befor other people. quickest way i found to fix this is to log all your toons out then back in. and yes it can happen 5 min later. but hopefully it dosent. if problems keep up to the point where you cant reasonably play. you may want to look into driver upgrades or bite the bullet and go for system upgrades.
zak
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 'pinotnoir',index.php?page=Thread&postID=151133#po st151133
why jump into conclusions...
it takes 2 seconds to figure it out...
didnt u ever had GY problems ? OMG! my char is here and i cant see my slaves? my slaves cant see my main ?
if u never had, then, u dont play much time tbh. all it takes is a fast relog of ur main.
it has to do with zoning. i dont recall the correct term now. when u load up a zone, sometime u may go into a different server spot, and the place is the same.
the starting areas are filled with these spots, to prevent huge loading of data at certain quest givers. it's smart, and all u have to do is pay attention.
man, u should had tried age of conan, where at every second ppl were splitted into 30 different instances of the same zone :)
This is all because of the inzone instances like Mosg2 said. Depending on what quest you are on you'll see different areas of the zone. You have to "warp" into these areas - it will break follow since you're warping. It's new to WOTLK. Ice and Storm both have a bunch of these areas. Also Dragonblight has a couple - notably one at the gate area where you get the undercity quest. It's really annoying, but it looks like something we have to get used to.
I noticed it the worst in Storm Peaks. It wasn't too bad in the other zones, though ice Crown was a second. So far I haven't seen it at all in the lower level areas.
Yes, it's Phasing and that's the way they did it. When you do some chains the zones will start "looking" differently. I have many villages and fp now where before it was just undead mobs. It's awfull to fly in these areas :/. Just hope they'll fix it soon, moreso that they even consider fixing it...Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mosg2',index.php?page=Thread&postID=151162#post15 1162
But overall the idea is just great. It's awesome when a new village just pops out ;) Or after doing the Battle for Undercity how UC will never be the same at your own eys ;).
I think this has to do with the new Server-phasing. Everytime you pass a border of a phased zone this happens. It gets worse: When one of your chars (for example your new Deathknight) is in a different phase, meaning he hasnt completed certain "phasechanging" quests yet, you cant help him. You dont see his mobs/Npcs etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pinotnoir',index.php?page=Thread&postID=151128#po st151128
Sucks, but what they do with phasing is amazing.
Are we SURE this follow break is caused by this new server-phasing? I only ask because, well, I get it also quite frequently in any zone (some most definitely worse than others). All my characters live or die together they do exact same questing and I never split them up. What actually concerns me about this random character disappearance is that sometimes it happens on a few toons but usually it only happens on 1 toon at a time. that one toon will lose auto follow and if u happen to be watching that screen; ALL player models/NPC's/mobs disappear for about 2 seconds then reappear but all other toons did not experience it.
Is this merely a case of 5 toons on 1 computer, 4 gig of ram, and just simply running into a processing lag on 1 toon only (sometimes 2) due to maxing out my resources on the following system?
Core 2 Quad
4 gig DDR3
Radeon HD3870
5 toons w/ keyclone on a very fresh Vista 64 install
What zones are you in when this happens? Does it happen in old world zones, or just the new ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'genocyde',index.php?page=Thread&postID=151466#pos t151466
Now that you make me think of it I have never seen this happen before Northrend. I started noticing it more and more as I go through the Northrend zones. I'm 76 right now and I haven't gone back to the old world for anything but training skills and I haven't lost follow once yet running thru SW trade district or Dalaran. I guess I can rule out resource issues huh :rolleyes:
I believe this has to do with the fact that areas are somewhat 'instanced' now, you know how areas can change and look different when you get to certain storylines?
I've started to memorize the points where it happens and I just press move forward button for all four hen it does so all will get in the new 'insttance area' and continue with follow.
It's a minor inconvenience, 's all. I got epic flyers by the way, if that concerns you. :p
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Kaynin',index.php?page=Thread&postID=151489#post1 51489
Keep in mind, an MMO is never going to be designed for multiboxers. We need to work around the game - it doesn't need to cater to us. I know there's also the Oculus instance (and the Malygos fight) where the final boss is partially vehicle -based, but that's just a couple fights. In these cases, we can still single-box it with other people to see the content. Actually, I'm not convinced that the Oculus couldn't be boxed with the right setup or strategy.
I seem to notice quite a bit of anti-boxer stuff too. Is it just me or things anti elemental shaman too?
the special death knight quests prevent follow... it's completely eliminated, an example is trying to get your mount for the death knight.
I've seen it in other quests too. One quest where I was supposed to mount a gryphon and rescue villagers has follow completely eliminated and so is focus.
It seems to me like they went out of thier way to design boss fights that are anti-boxing, like kill your doubleganger or whiplash the whole team around so they face away from the boss.
It also seems to be that they are going out of their way to be anti elemental shaman. I had one of those little plants in the nexus kill my fire elemental in two hits, these are WEAK plants and can't do much damage.
I find the shaman elementals vaporise in these instances. The grounding totems don't work in some fights. No elemental shaman gear except for leatherworking.
I used to have well geared shaman at 70. at 74 I feel like I now have so-so geared shaman and they are weak because I haven't seen hardly anything that's an upgrade.
almost all of the mail quest rewards are worthless for the elemental shaman ( no + spell )
almost all of the plate quest rewards are worthless for the protection pally ( no block, no parry, no dodge )
Ugghhh.. I have never been a fan of click to move. Probably why I never liked Diablo. :SQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=151501#po st151501
I don't agree with much of this. Boxers have always had occasion to do some quests one guy at a time. Collections are a good example of this. The quest to get a horse takes way less time than any collection quest ever took. Elementals might be bugged somehow if they die that easily. I haven't noticed it yet, but I rarely use the elementals. If it's a bug then report it to Blizzard, because I don't think elementals were purposely designed to be useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Catamer',index.php?page=Thread&postID=151506#post 151506
You're right that the green quest rewards are horrible, but any quest with blue gear almost always has something really nice. Check out the armory link in my sig and take a glance at my level 75 guys or even on my B-team level 70 prot pally. I got tons of nice blues from quests on these guys without even clearing an instance on the B team. Remember, prot pallies tank with gear that has no spell power on it now due to gaining spell power from stamina and some skills using strength and AP.
Hey :)
I get this follow broken problem too when riding. I run a 5 man group on 5 windows on the same computer.
It usually only happens for 1 or 2 toons at a time. But then it usually keeps happening for that 1 or 2 toons, until i restart wow completely; closing all 5 window and starting again.
Im supecting that it could be somehow related to system ressources. That the window is not getting enough "attention" from the CPU. My cpu is pretty maxed out to 90-99%. In Northrend I have to set CPU priority for my main window to "Above normal" to get 20-30 fps, else it lags at 10 fps.
I tried making my main autorun, and then watching the window of the problem toon. It seems that even though the toon is near my main paladin, it is not getting the crusader aura buff. Turning off the Crusader Aura helps a bit, but still, the toon breaks follow. It just takes a little longer without the Crusader Aura.
I even tried manually pressing the forward key W in the problems toons window. It is STILL loosing run speed compared to the other toons. I have to conclude that the "follow broken" problem do not have anything to do with the follow function. It must be some sort of priority problem. Either with the CPU or in the communication with the Blizzard server.
/Brutala
I was starting to think that I was just being a little paranoid until I read this. I've been having problems with follow since I got into WotLK too, I thought perhaps it was a i play all of my clients of full detail, so I dropped that and still suffered problems. Add to the follow problem, the fact that every other quest seems to be a collection quest and I'm not having huge amounts of fun boxing at the moment. But, it's not that far to 80, so I can put up with it for now :D
Here's how I travel in Storm Peaks. I point my leader in the direction of travel I want to go and then hit numlok on all slaves once they are lined up. You are all travelling at the same speed and therefore you never needed follow. Now say you needed to change direction? Hit /follow again and then put on numlock. Also I could draw you a map of where in Storm Peaks you need to be careful, also there are routes you can take where it will only hit you once. I learned this while getting my sons of hodir rep up. It's a pain in the ass, but now that I have put some time into it I know exactly what to do.
Storm Peaks is the worse.. After fighting it with my shamans I dont plan on questing there with any other teams. PIss on that zone and its phasing.
You will get used to it Pinot,if you are doing dailies in Icecrown you will get phasing alot.
WoTLK is hard on MB,large amount of collection q,phasing ect,but stick with it,after a while you will get used to where the phasing is and be able to compensate.
Myself I use Keyclone,and just use the DNP button when I hit phasing then move all my toons through the joint together,drop DNP and carry on.
GL and HF :)
I am pretty good with Icecrown but I dont care to go back to storm peaks. The DNP is a good idea. I didnt think of that. I would just hit my alt movement keys and go forward until they all get into the phase. My last team leveled to 80 without doing 1 quest in stormpeaks. They had lots of rest xp. I may have to go there with my new team. I dont look forward to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by '5fingersofdoom',index.php?page=Thread&postID=1842 22#post184222
I quite enjoyed Storm Peaks, the questing there is a lot of fun, but yeah, it's probably the worst for teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pinotnoir',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184232#po st184232
I've just gotten used to the phasing, like everyone says, you get used to where it happens, and you just spam the follow key when it happens. I was pissed at it for about 5 minutes, then just accepted it. It's not "broken", so much as phasing has changed the way the zones work, and I doubt Blizzard will look at it as something needing a "fix" (unless hopefully some WoW devs MB, and ask their dev buddies to "fix" it) (heh)
Ah sry didn't know you had 80'd already,but glad the DNP may help.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pinotnoir',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184232#po st184232
I had to do Storm Peaks and agreed its hard on MB's
Anyway m8 GL hope you get through the grind ok.
Happens to me all the time while doing icecrown dailies, the best method I've found is to not block aswd keys and when they disappear just press the w key and they reappear instantly. Also makes for some nice flying manouvers :) spread your team out and go for a fly while your main is ducking and diving between them, very entertainingg on long flights :)
at least you can manually move your team forward though the boundary when you know one is coming up as long as they are all on the same quest. ( my arrow keys move my whole team forward )
it's 1000x worse if you are trying to level up an ALT to catch up with your regular team.
the ALT will invariably be on different quest and thus he will NEVER see your other characters, you are FORCED to solo box the alt to catch up.
SOLO IS SO BORING I CAN'T STAND IT.
Once I finished all the quests in Northrend, I have had very little phasing /follow problems.