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Quests?
Instance?
Both?
As for the quests is there alot of collection quests (Prays that there isnt)
what about the instance anyone know if any are multibox friendly?
Im trying not to freak about the collection quests but thus far it seems to be all I can freaking think about....
Anyone played in the beta know?
(blbjtb - I love the shammy names. I may copy you there (highest form of flattery) if you don't mind.)
Lots of instances. As few collection quests as possible
a mix of both probably.... I'd like to get into the story line a little doing quests, but i dont want to abandon the thought of instances though.
Mostly quests but I'll avoid all of the BOP collection ones I can. I tend to get frustrated running instances to level since I like all of my toons to have the same gear at once.
Just turned level 70 today with my team - I did 1-70 more or less on quests only and I am now feed up with it :)
So I will go for as many instances as possible, the problem is just that im not that skilled yet so it might not be the most effient way.
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heh have @ it bro I even went so far as to make it so that their guild is The Planeteers... Yeah...
And I changed up my pally and Shaman to have the same name so that their names didnt go out of sequence when I would switch one for the other.
Dont instances start to get like REALLY old after you have fun it for the 20th time?Quote:
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Although assuming that the average mob gives 1000 xp a kill and the average quest gives 12k I mean it boils down to can you kill 12 mobs in the time it takes to do one quest I would assume in all cases that would be a resounding yes.
No, average mob gives 1k divided across your players with a slight group bonus, so maybe 300xp per character non rested. So more like can you do 1 quest (which btw in wotlk quests give ~20k xp) in the amount of time it takes you to kill 50 mobs? Most likely the answer is a resounding yes. Some quests you could probably do 3 of in the time it takes to kill 60 mobs.
Personally I plan to do almost all questing and only supplement instances as needed to get to the level barrier for the next zone. I'd also prefer to wait until other multiboxing groups have already figured out 5x shaman strategies for various instances.
I really only like running an instance once ever and then I'm done with it for good. I still don't understand how people can do the same mind numbing task 100 times and not tear their eyes out...at that point its not even a game to me anymore just a chore.
Eliete mobs only give 300 XP are you kidding me wow that really sucks haha hrmm back to my drawing board.Quote:
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Im just seriously paranoid of collection quests I mean its really bad =P although i may just need to suck it up and just freaking do it.
I don't think you'll have to worry about collection quests at all. From what I hear the # of quests in northrend is much higher than it was in outland, so you should be able to skip all collection quests and still make it to 80 with minimal instancing.
Elite mobs gives way over 1k xp rested atleast
I'll try to do some instances, atleast for quests.
Btw, Howling Fjord has 110+ quests and Borean Tundra has 140+...
instance grind, basically this is what i posted in my guild forums:
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I'm posting this for people that actually would want to get a group together and powerlevel like this, its about 3 bars of exp per clear, clear takes about 15 minutes, this video was taken on sep 29th after all the exp changes were done.
http://files.filefront.com/PremoUtgarde ... einfo.html
basically its 7 clears for 70-71(2h), and about 9 for 72(2.5h).
This is hardcore clears, with no looting at all, other then bosses for shards.
Now this is based mostly on having strong dps, and well geared tank that doesn't require spam healing(so around 16k+ unbuffed, 490 def and tons of dodge), when i did utgarde on my pvp s1 geared huntard, with similar geared group, i took us almost an hour to clear.
I plan on being steady with my leveling, but i will go through instances at a medium pace. I will loot everything and I don't care if I'm first to 80. I just want to be 80 in a decent amount of time.
I plan to buy the game at midnight and haul ass to 80, using whatever is fastest.. Being the first 80 would be great, but one of the earliest 80's is much more likely. I prefer non-collection quests, but if there's 20 people for every 1quest mob spawn then I'm going to hide in instances until they go away or I outlevel them.
and 300exp per elite mob? shenanigans, get your brooms..
So there are 2 starter zones that they say you should be ~68. Could us multiboxers head straight to the level 71 zone. Half the problem with questing isn't actually doing the quests but dealing with everyone else in the zone. This won't work for me b/c i don't plan on getting Wotlk until lunch on thursday.
I think alot of people are going to Instances from the get go b/c of all the lag that will be happening from all the people stuck in one zone.
logged into my guilds website and saw this posted
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Utgarde 70-73 [14 minutes; 89k/run]
Ahn Kahet 73-75 [17 minutes; 93k/run]
Gundrak 75-77 (very good xp, short way to exit) [15 minutes; 94k/run]
Stone 77-80 [16.5 minutes; 98k/run]
This being with a group of full SW equipped people.
Using XP/Level at Formulas:XP To Level - WoWWiki
Utgade Keep
Level 70: Utgarde. ~17.1 runs. 3.99 hours to level.
Level 71: Utgarde. ~17.3 runs. 4.04 hours to level.
Level 72: Utgarde. ~17.5 runs. 4.08 hours to level.
Total: ~12.11 Hours in Utgarde
Ahn'Kahet
Level 73: Ahn'Kahet. ~16.9 runs. 4.79 hours to level.
Level 74: Ahn'Kahet. ~17.1 runs. 4.84 hours to level.
Total: ~9.62 Hours in Ahn'Kahet
Gun'Drak
Level 75: Gun'Drak. ~17.07 runs. 4.26 hours to level.
Level 76: Gun'Drak. ~17.24 runs. 4.31 hours to level.
Total: ~8.57 Hours in Gun'Drak.
Halls Of Stone
Level 77: Halls of Stone. ~16.7 runs. 4.59 hours to level.
Level 78: Halls of Stone. ~16.9 runs. 4.64 hours to level.
Level 79: Halls of STone. ~17.05 runs. 4.69 hours to level.
Total: ~13.92 Hours in Halls of Stone.
Grand Total: ~44.23 hours to level.
I'm leveling my main warrior solo first to 80 doing everything, all quests and instances.
Then i'm leveling my 5 shamans through kill quests, and where there aren't any (or i've ran out/cba with them), instances.
[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwarz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=145916#post1 45916]So there are 2 starter zones that they say you should be ~68. Could us multiboxers head straight to the level 71 zone. Half the problem with questing isn't actually doing the quests but dealing with everyone else in the zone. This won't work for me b/c i don't plan on getting Wotlk until lunch on thursday.
I think alot of people are going to Instances from the get go b/c of all the lag that will be happening from all the people stuck in one zone.
logged into my guilds website and saw this posted
[quote] Utgarde 70-73 [14 minutes; 89k/run]
Ahn Kahet 73-75 [17 minutes; 93k/run]
Gundrak 75-77 (very good xp, short way to exit) [15 minutes; 94k/run]
Stone 77-80 [16.5 minutes; 98k/run]
This being with a group of full SW equipped people.
Using XP/Level at Formulas:XP To Level - WoWWiki
[url='http://www.wowwiki.com/Utgarde_Keep
Wow Thanks for this but I have got to say running an instance 17 times and I think I would have to really murder some people. that being said It seems like thats VERY VERY good if you want to stimulate your XP
I was thinking about this and unless they really really really reduced the number of trash mobs in instances I don't see how you are going to complete an instance in ~14mins. 17 runs of an instance isn't that bad. Ya gotta think that you will learn new things that will make it easier and easier every time. Running some 50+ times will get you pretty familiar with the instance and should be a good instance to run on heroic if you get all the tricks down.
As far as times I am thinking it might take double what they say. As far as the last boss in Utgade Keep not sure if he is going to be doable.Maybe staggering earth elementals in the 2nd phase of him will be the trick. But I don't know how any team is going to survive at 20k aoe effect.
Quests will give more exp/hour without a doubt. The only problem is ganking or too many people doing the quests so you can't get your spawns.
I think it'll probably end up being:
Prime Time = instances
Off hours = quests
My guess is that Thursday during the day you can do some of the quests. When school gets out, the quest areas will probably be flooded. Same thing for Friday. If by Friday after school gets out, you aren't out of the newbie zones you're going to be in for a slow weekend.
I don't know which team you're running but it's either shadow damage (aura) or physical damage he does (aura/totems).Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwarz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=146023#post1 46023]As far as the last boss in [url='http://www.wowwiki.com/Utgarde_Keep
Also, if he's got 120k hp(*2), well, he goes down really really fast and won't have much time for a lot if all of his special tricks. I remember that I only knew about the phoenixes of Kael'thas in MgT H when I started running with my paladin instead of 5 shaman :p
I haven't fought this boss, but wowhead has strats on him. I'd be impressed if a 5 cloth/mail team can do him at 70, will be interesting to see. If you do have a tank, it seems like its a much easier fight -- casters get to max range, tank stays in. He cast a silence spell, but it only takes effect if you are casting when he casts it -- so just jump your casters if you see his cast bar doing Dreadful Roar. I don't see how Earth Elementals can tank him, since he will 1 shot them when he does his specials and then come and rape the ranged.
He also has a couple spells that will do massive (10k+) damage to the tank, but only if the tank is in front of him. The strats simply suggest that when the tank sees this spell being cast (2 secs) to move "through" the boss behind him, then once its done move back in front.
There is lots of periodic AoE dmg in the fight, and targeted AoE as well, so spreading out is good. I might spec one of my shamans resto, things take longer to die but if you are running an instance 10+ times it makes it easier if you can just spam 1 button and it takes care of healing tank and DPSing too.
Be fun anyways to experiment :) I think a good mix of instance and questing will be nice. I quickly perused Jame's leveling guide and there are a *TON* of collection quests in the 70-72 zones, I'd rather instance and mindlessly and loot with my main rather than constantly having to loot quest drops on every character.
I like instances simply because it saves a lot of hazzle. I might do quests to get a break from the grind depending on how crowded the zones are though.
OK i feel alot better about the final boss in Utgade Keep after watching this
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=7FqR4caNCdc
If you can 2 man it at 72 five shaman teams should be able to do it ~70.
Some of the quest leveling guides are promising approximately 24 hours /played, for 70 to 80 via questing.
That has to assume you're able to complete the quests without 709 players in the same small area each trying to tag the mob before you.
The masses will slow the pace down considerably, but even so, optimal questing will be half the time of instancing all the way.
So the question is, how quickly can you quest with a lot of competition for mobs vs instance with just your group?
how do i plan on levelin?
very carefully...
=P idk, quests for the most part, and maybe a few instances. me and a couple buddies are linked up to lvl together, so i wont be alone this time around.
I have a sort of setup ready...
I quadbox shamans, my best ingame friend is a warrior tank...
Prime time we will go nonstop instances, and during the nights we will go questing....
Aiming for 80before monday hits and Naxx pug/guild run before wednesday.
Guild is currently clearing SSC-TK and 4/5MH 7/9BT... did that the last few weeks... All shammies on every raid on every boss...
Teron is.. interesting... But all bosses have proved to be multiboxable ;) Did most of them pre-nerf too.
So the base gear is ok, and my tank can take shitloads of damage before he needs heals...
Starting the leveling experience on friday 17.00 gametime :)
Will get 200-300 food/water on each of the boys and then go pew pew until sundown on sunday ;)
Banks are cleaned out, bags are empty.
The guilds goal is to be the #1 guild on Xavius EU alliance side (Wich isnt that hard)
The GM has previosly stated that the only time 3of the pants have to sit out is when we are on farm runs to gear people up.
They are always in progress raids, and will most likely continue to be so in the 25man instances in wolk :)
I'm probably in the minority here, but I won't be leveling a full group the first time through. I want to quest and enjoy the content, which I can't do if I grind instances with a full group, and questing with a full group is a serious pain not to mention the crowds and tells you will get from a packed starting zone.
Same :) I'll level my one shammy solo to do the quests, learn the maps, maybe some instances, etc. After that I'll take my multibox pallie + 4xsham through the instances and any quests I found to be worthwhile/easy/good reward.Quote:
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I'm getting 1300 NONRESTED xp per kill in UK. They hit like a bitch but...that means every 16 mobs = 1 quest. Can I kill 16 mobs in the time it takes me to do one quest (especially with everyone else running around)? I say yes :P