I didnt vote for McCain...... I just voted AGAINST Obama
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I didnt vote for McCain...... I just voted AGAINST Obama
I hope many people will vote -- no matter who their preferred candidate is.
I'll be watching tonight like the rest of the world.
Regards from Europe.
I couldn't bring myself to vote for anyone on the ballots, so i wrote myself in figuring i would at least do what i thought was right. We might get better candidates if more people voted for who they wanted, rather than for who the 2 main parties offer up for sacrifice.
Douglas Adams summed up how democracy works in this snippet:
http://wso.williams.edu/~rcarson/lizards.html
That and this one liner:
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
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Originally Posted by 'Oatboat',index.php?page=Thread&postID=143757#post 143757
Voted.
I care more that people do vote. more important to me is that I feel democracy is being taken advantage of used. Second to that is who wins.
I totally agree here, none of us have the same views on politics however we all have an opinion. Make yours count, get out and VOTE!
Go McCain!
will vote right when i leave work.
voting for obama, not because i wanted to vote against mccain, but because i want to vote for someone.
oh and i live in california. so really, the more important bill to be voted on is Proposition 8.
No on 8.
Yay for seppos and and their optional voting lol. What's so bad about Obama that you have to capitilise the fact you are voting against him?
PS: I lold a lot at Palin's, "we want to work for you (wherever), will you hire us?" Seriously lold.
PPS: No, I won't be watching tonight, I'll be playing wow.
PPPS: Found this link, quite interesting imo... http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/results
I found a similar article in a magazine somewhere. I find it highly interesting. Its a shame that neither of the candidates will probably be able to do much in the way of fixing this severly broken country.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'valkry',index.php?page=Thread&postID=143958#post1 43958
Knock it off Skuggo. There is no place for that kind of language here.
-Fur
Voted Obama FTW!
There are other issues on the ballot besides president so I hope everyone registered got out to vote.
I'm originally from South Carolina, and it makes me feel proud to have a black man as president.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pinotnoir',index.php?page=Thread&postID=144130#po st144130
It does make me sad to see that the same day that we elected a black man to office, we likely have set up another "separate but equal" institution in our country.
Perhaps we haven't learned from past mistakes.
My first presidential election that I voted in! Yay!! :D
And awesome, Obama won, I couldn't be happier! Unfortunately, I heard that Prop 8 passed... just barely tho :( I am so disappointed :( :( :(
Everyone should be happy, considering Bush's approval rating. We got a huge upgrade either way.
honestly, the thing i'm happiest about is the FCC freeing the white spaces
yea, pretty sad day for equial rights, equality, human rights and progress. prop 8 passed 52% to 48%. but this does not include the absentee votes. those still need to be counted.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Ellette',index.php?page=Thread&postID=144214#post 144214
Here's hoping that the absentee ballots can close the gap, because it's not a huge gap at all. But if they can't, I'm sure it will end up going for revoting soon because it is entirely unfair, and if it's that close, then there will be enough people to make it happen.
Actually thats not gonna happen. What will happen, which is what already happened before, but the judge threw out the case because there was nothing to argue, is that the case will go to court yet again. now there's an issue there's two conflicting laws. one is decided by the court, and one is decided by the polls. since it will be in conflict, im sure the courts will have to re-evaluate the whole thing again. its not over by a long shot. but it does show how people voted.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Ellette',index.php?page=Thread&postID=144282#post 144282
exit polls showed most who voted for prop 8 were blacks, latinos, and "religious" people. it's odd to me that blacks and latinos would vote against equal rights. i mean, let me put a measure on next year's ballot limiting black's rights to vote, and latino's right to have children. its a crude example but its the same concept. by saying gays cant marry, they're essentially saying that gays are less human than they are.
one major problem with issues like prop 8 is they are "20% issues". meaning they only directly effect 20% of the population and therefore easily passed or defeated depending on who is in political office at the time.
less than 10% of males are gay and less than 5% of females are gay, if you believe the these figures, i personally think they are a little high. that would avg. out to about 8% of the population being gay, factor in family and friends and your over 10% of the population that would be in support of prop 8.
It seems about an equal % of the population is religious enough to think it is a mortal sin and should not be allowed.
so you have 10% for, 10% against and 80% of the population not really affected either way but have an opinion on the subject. That opinion is easily moved depending one who is pushing the issue. today it seems the religious right has won the battle, but i suspect gay rights will win the war over the next 20 years.
As a African-American mainly I will refrain from flipping out on that comment you've made X( . Overall, I hope this webiste doesn't cater to any racism at all. In conclusion to that, I did vote for Obama, not based on color, but based on viewpoints. I was born & raised in Arizona for 12 years & knew of McCain to a good extent. I am very curious of the times ahead, with a team that is going to be smart & aggressive in making change that will help this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Skuggomann',index.php?page=Thread&postID=144127#p ost144127
I voted weeks ago, since election day was also baby day for me. I lived in Alaska for four years and really love Palin, but I wish she would have stayed out of the national politics. She is doing a great job with the mess in Alaska and I think she is best suited for that.
is that the next hero class. combo priest and rogue.
So thrilled Obama won! The Bush era is finally over but what a horrible mess it left in its wake.
On another forum, a McCain supporter bemoaned the fact that he loss mainly because she was Alaskan and she was so hoping Palin would become Vice President so she would be out of their hair and someone elses problem, then the Lt govenor could pick up the pieces.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Coltimar',index.php?page=Thread&postID=144438#pos t144438
Someone elses problem?!?! I wanted to thump her on the forehead. THINK! She would be a 72 year olds heartbeat away from being President but some how she would no longer be YOUR problem?!
People like that scare me so much.
I didnt vote for him.. but heres to hoping that Obama can lead us in the right direction.
Good luck America =) (I say this without sarcasm).
I voted YES on proposition 8 in California and I'm PROUD OF IT!!!
For those of us who aren't seppos, Prob 8 is what? (is it that gay marriage thingie?) And voting yes on it means you are voting to allow or disallow it?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Prepared',index.php?page=Thread&postID=146376#pos t146376
sigh i dont want either but i definatly dont want obama, i want the government small and out of my buisiness. im going to have to give the federal government more of my hard earned money to pay for some losers who want a hand out. socialism ftl
Sarah Palin 2012!
I didn't care who won, because I don't care too much for either of them.
I hope Obama can live up to all the ideas that people thing he stands for though.
I am very concerned that the vast majority of people in America think that just by Obama's win that it means the end of racism.
Joe-bob Chickenthumper in the deep South isn't going to stop putting on his pointy white hat every weekend. And I'd venture to say that it's still not a great idea for a nerdy white guy to go strolling through what might be considered a ghetto in any city/town. I do think it's a step in the right direction, but it's not the cure.
You can't end hundreds of years of racism and reverse racism in one day.
I hope she comes back too! If she keeps running, we'll never have another Republican era ever again! Yes!!! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Velassra',index.php?page=Thread&postID=146684#pos t146684
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Originally Posted by 'valkry',index.php?page=Thread&postID=143958#post1 43958
A very interesting site, to bad more didnt know about it before the voting was over... Looks like the world is smart anyways ;)
And you really think that was entirely Bush's fault? Can you elaborate on why, exactly, if so?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Shaden',index.php?page=Thread&postID=146143#post1 46143
Proposition 8 is california's initative to ban gay marriages.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'valkry',index.php?page=Thread&postID=146493#post1 46493
vote yes if you want to ban gay marriages.
also, bush left a mess, but the current problems in the economy is not necessarily his fault. i think that he's a bad president. but i do not think that any economic downturn is due to his failure as a president.
Wanting to ban gays from marrying because they are different?..well, that's like wanting to ban multiboxing from wow to be completely honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'elsegundo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=147153#po st147153
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Originally Posted by 'Ughmahedhurtz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=14714 8#post147148
Certainly. Where to start...
Mass deregulation of Wall Street that pretty much led to our current financial crisis and allowed the crooks to flourish.
Damage to our relationships around the world. The world rejoicing about Obama's win speaks volumes.
Totally and completely blew the war in Afghanistan.
He politicized the Justice Department, tried to make it a partisan service. It's supposed to be impartial.
Removing basic constitutional rights like Habeus Corpus.
Appointing lobbyists to positions of oversight on the very interests they once lobbied for. Ie, putting a lumber lobbyist in charge of the forestry service.
Allowing Homeland Security to spy on anyone they want to without warrants.
The disastrous handling of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - since he liked putting his friends in cushy jobs, like Michael Brown in FEMA, but unfortunately Mr. Brown had no experience to handle the crisis and thus, people suffered for it.
Tax cuts for the rich, the 'Haves and Have Mores', as he put it when referring to his base.
The list goes on and on and on and on...
For a complete Bush scandal list that is current at #392 and counting, visit http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/
well, completely and utterly pwned...I'll jump in with a question? Found those WMDs yet lol?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Shaden',index.php?page=Thread&postID=147229#post1 47229
You suck at life. You might want to consider killing yourself. It makes me feel pretty damn good and proud that my country can at least somewhat look beyond skin color, along with a majority of all US voters and a vast majority of the world's population.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Skuggomann',index.php?page=Thread&postID=144127#p ost144127
The post was moderatored, now you went and quoted it so even more people can see it. Congratulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Biz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=147314#post1473 14
Ya know, I sometimes wish I had the absolute faith in my party's talking points that you do. Unfortunately, my party demands a bit more voter oversight due to their occasional fits of self-aggrandizing, typically-human idiocy. Thank goodness the country isn't run by a single party with no checks and balances.
Ah well. Congrats on your party leader's impending coronation. May you receive everything you so richly deserve.