slave running off into horizon trouble..

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10-03-2008, 01:24 PM
largegroh

slave running off into horizon trouble..

I think i remember reading about the slave running in circles or off into distance somewhere in posts but i don't seem to find it.

here is the problem. sometimes, usually when i move the cursor from master window to slave window while running, the slave just keeps running. sometimes the esc button will sotp him. sometimes hitting the /follow key will. but nothing seems to "always" stop him.

does anyone know of a reliable way to stop a runaway slave? it is very annoying to be in a group and have to say "wait. i have to try to stop my slave" lol

thx for any help
10-03-2008, 01:47 PM
Ughmahedhurtz

The Run-Aways (Collecting Data) <-- the thread you're probably thinking of.

As for stopping 'em, do you have a "spread formation" key? If not, set one up and then you can just tap that or your /follow key and they'll come back.
10-03-2008, 01:51 PM
Jafula

For me lag has always been the cause of runaway slaves; usually after stopping follow.

Try turning down all your gfx settings (esp. view distance) and see if it helps.

Also make sure you're not sending movement keys to the slave when you shouldn't be.
10-03-2008, 01:51 PM
largegroh

well i do not have a special formation key yet but tapping my /follow key does not stop them always. sometimes yes but not always. i will read the post u listed and try to set up somekind of formation key. not sure how to do that but i will read. thx
10-03-2008, 02:00 PM
zanthor

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'largegroh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=129871#po st129871

well i do not have a special formation key yet but tapping my /follow key does not stop them always. sometimes yes but not always. i will read the post u listed and try to set up somekind of formation key. not sure how to do that but i will read. thx

With a strobed follow I've had them go into an "orbit" so to speak... running effectively figure 8's around the leader... this was most amusing when I was running 2 mages and a pally... the two mages running circles arcane exploding around teh pally consecrating created a very interesting effect.... I tried to duplicate this on command thinking it would be hard as hell to defend against the randomspazoid mages in PVP but couldn't.
10-03-2008, 02:13 PM
Pringle

RE: slave running off into horizon trouble..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'largegroh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=129855#po st129855

...when i move the cursor from master window to slave window while running...

Are you holding a key while you move the cursor from one window to the other? If so, there's your problem. If you want to change windows while moving, turn on autorun, or just stop pressing any key until the new window is fully active.
10-03-2008, 02:22 PM
largegroh

yes it happens when i am holding the "w" key and running forward. however when i stop doing that it takes forever to stop the slave. yes i know, don't hold run button when switching screens but sometimes in heat of battle i forget. question is when i forget and do t he no-no, how can i stop the slave quickly? should i move the cursor back to main? or what
10-03-2008, 03:16 PM
Pringle

Move the cursor to the offending screen and the press(and release) the button that causes the problem. In the case of the 'w' running forward, swith back to the main screen and tap 'w' until your toon behaves again. My other suggestion would be to stop using 'w' to move. Use the mouse.

This is just one reason why a multibox team isn't as effective as 5 cooperating individuals.
10-04-2008, 02:51 PM
Maxion

Or if you really want to use w to move, just do what i have done and unbind wasd on the alts.
Sure that mean i have to mouse move whenever an alt is being used as main, but it saves me from worrying about broadcasting those keys and i also dont have to set them to do-not-pass, so i can effectively use /commands on all characters at once.
10-05-2008, 08:16 PM
Tasty

One of my slaves ran from IQD and ended up dead in the ghostlands without me knowing... :S
10-05-2008, 09:13 PM
Bettysue

How to orbit, and why they run

It seems as though, whenever keyclone is sending keys it sends the state, or some sort of toggle, if you press the key down to run it sends
"W" key down
Now if you lag when you release the key
"W" key up
is never sent to the clones and away they go, it's easy enough to fix just tap the key a couple times and they stop in their tracks and wait for a run by pickup. With this knowledge it's now very easy to figure out how to orbit them. Just set a key to strafe on the clones, either direction it doesnt really matter. Now here's what you have to do pretty quick before they get away.

Hold down strafe key + stop broadcasting
--once broadcasting is stopped
release strafe key
Start broadcasting
Hit follow button

Now what you have is a bunch of clones that got the key down state for strafe stuck, and now they are trying to follow. They run little circles all day and only hitting the strafe key again will stop them. It's pretty fun for mages, damn near everything else it's not so good. If you want more time to set it up find a small room somewhere so the alts can just strafe into the walls.
10-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Hachoo

The only time I ever have slaves run away is when I have a mod with "Follow after combat" turned on. I used to have the issue all the time, but I turned that option OFF on my mod (multiboxer v2 right now) and I have never, EVER had that happen since. Now I just spam my follow key periodically and never worry about following after combat automatically.

I don't want to use a strobe feature as a lot of times ill hit the down arrow to stop just my slaves from following to fight a boss or something and I don't want them to a) start following again randomly or b) have to remember to turn the strobe off or something
10-07-2008, 12:48 PM
puppychow

fwiw I was using keyclone/maximizer/pip and had this problem 2-5x a day, it was driving me crazy. I moved to a non-maximizer (windows all stack) and using octopus, and for a month now haven't seen this problem once. Dunno if its keyclone or if its the fact that the windows aren't tiled anymore.
10-09-2008, 12:29 AM
Simulacra

this used to happen to me at least 4 times a week and once happened in slave pens causing a wipe >.< I stopped using wasd to move and changed to mouse move (both buttons down) and it doesn't happen anymore. It was a pain to get used to but on the upside I now have wasd to use for something else.
10-09-2008, 02:16 AM
mithryn

RE: How to orbit, and why they run

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Bettysue',index.php?page=Thread&postID=130504#pos t130504

It seems as though, whenever keyclone is sending keys it sends the state, or some sort of toggle, if you press the key down to run it sends
"W" key down
Now if you lag when you release the key
"W" key up
is never sent to the clones and away they go, it's easy enough to fix just tap the key a couple times and they stop in their tracks and wait for a run by pickup. With this knowledge it's now very easy to figure out how to orbit them. Just set a key to strafe on the clones, either direction it doesnt really matter. Now here's what you have to do pretty quick before they get away.

Hold down strafe key + stop broadcasting
--once broadcasting is stopped
release strafe key
Start broadcasting
Hit follow button

Now what you have is a bunch of clones that got the key down state for strafe stuck, and now they are trying to follow. They run little circles all day and only hitting the strafe key again will stop them. It's pretty fun for mages, damn near everything else it's not so good. If you want more time to set it up find a small room somewhere so the alts can just strafe into the walls.

Yeah, this is apparently a well-known issue with keyclone. It happens to me sometimes, but not often enough to bother me. I find that strafing, however, doesn't correct the behavior; the ONLY solution is to re-press the key that got "stuck".