I now officially hate Shat-n-Shat City

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09-27-2008, 09:37 PM
Zite83

I now officially hate Shat-n-Shat City

I hate Shat-n-Shat City..... I HATE IT soooo much... I normally run around 2 - 2.5 Gigs of ram running around... Once Shat-n-Shat City... I jump up to 3.7+ Gigs... computer just freezes... I run all 5 clients on one machine... 2.4Ghz Quad Core (OC 3.15Ghz) 4Gigs (2 x 2GB dual channel) 8800GTS 640MBs.... Maybe I should start using some of my older machines to distrupte the work load... hmm... So anywas.. the main reason I hate it is not just the lag.. but what the lag did to me... Four of my team are Aldor... and one... is Scryer.... Son of .... So how hard is it to convert..? I havent done anything on that character but accpect Scryer... So theres my rant.. :cursing:
09-27-2008, 10:41 PM
asonimie

Ram is the issue here. I run a quadcore 2.8 with 6gb ram and 5wows. I am about on the borderline as far as RAM distrubution goes (for hanging out in high density areas anyway - everything is liquid except shatt), in fact I'm upping it to 8gb soon to make everything fluid for the 2 clients that share a processor (its usually those guys who break follow cause of video lag)

So ya I would say 4gb is prolly enough for instances and outdoor - but high demand areas need more ram for wow - and in wrath each client will need even more.
09-27-2008, 11:14 PM
zhenyalix

thats the boat i'm on too life is great except in shat - i maxed out my mb with 8gb of ram but then found out i have to blow away everything and install vista 64bit before i can utilize it heh so been dragging my feet
09-28-2008, 01:01 AM
Fizzler

I just hit 63 on my 5 box.... I am staring at Shatt and dreading 63-64. I will have to do Adal's minion jaunt around the city quest a few times i think....
09-28-2008, 04:40 AM
pixelimp

I don't get it.
I run a 2.5ghz quadcore and 4gig ram, Shat and other big cities are a cake-walk for me.
Try running your copies on multiple hard-drives, that did it for me.
09-28-2008, 01:57 PM
TheBigBB

"Shat-n-Shat City"? Is this a joke I am missing?
09-28-2008, 02:57 PM
Ghrizzle

Just a thought ..... Possibly a second video card would help alleviate the pain. Not entirely sure how the whole ram and vid ram works but i think if your vid ram is maxed it starts using your reg ram. I think. Not entirely sure maybey one of the tech heads can clarify that.
09-28-2008, 08:11 PM
Hachoo

Why are people saying RAM is the issue? I have 3GBs and I am mostly fine in shatt. I have a bit of lag but I'm SURE thats due to my 8600GT video card, that and my dual core processor. Maybe Vista has more base requirements but jeez...
09-28-2008, 09:15 PM
Zub

RE: I now officially hate Shat-n-Shat City

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Originally Posted by 'Zite83',index.php?page=Thread&postID=127262#post1 27262

I hate Shat-n-Shat City..... I HATE IT soooo much... I normally run around 2 - 2.5 Gigs of ram running around... Once Shat-n-Shat City... I jump up to 3.7+ Gigs... computer just freezes... I run all 5 clients on one machine... 2.4Ghz Quad Core (OC 3.15Ghz) 4Gigs (2 x 2GB dual channel) 8800GTS 640MBs.... Maybe I should start using some of my older machines to distrupte the work load... hmm... So anywas.. the main reason I hate it is not just the lag.. but what the lag did to me... Four of my team are Aldor... and one... is Scryer.... Son of .... So how hard is it to convert..? I havent done anything on that character but accpect Scryer... So theres my rant.. :cursing:

Don't worry, it will be much worse in Dalaran ;-)
Try and use separate hard drives, or sym link your wow folders if you haven't already maybe
09-28-2008, 11:07 PM
Zite83

I'll give the hard drive idea a try.. well later when I have the money... My hard drive is the oldest piece of equipment in my computer..

The name is a joke with me and my friends.. I tend to only read the first few letters in a city/place name and make up the rest.. or just say it completely wrong..
Shattrath City = ShatnShat
The Steam Vault = Vapor Vents
Hell Fire Citadel = That Ramps Place
Tempest Keep = Flying Place and Um Bob
Cenarion Refuge = That one place.. First town you hit in Zangermarsh
Zabra'jin = Zaba something place...

The list goes on..
09-29-2008, 02:41 AM
Razman

There was a software workaround to this with vista by linking some files -- I cant remember the link may have to search for it. I never implemented it myself as it came with a disclaimer about it not being tested with an update which put me off as I think 3.0 is going to be bad enough when all my addons break.
09-29-2008, 03:00 AM
paul.monaghan

Vista X64 + 8GB Ram = W!n. I had all kinds of problems 4 boxing on my PC so I upgraded to Vista X64 and 8GB RAM and it runs like a dream now. I can even have other applications open.

P
09-29-2008, 04:05 AM
Ken

I have XP64 too and I used to have 4GB of RAM. I disabled the harddisk swap file(because of performance issues) which worked fine with 4 WoW clients(memory-whise). When I upgraded from 4 to 5 clients I got into trouble because all WoW apps would frequently exit because "there wasn't enough virtual memory available".
I upgraded to 6GB and the crashing was resolved, BUT WoW also started using more memory(700MB+ instead of 550MB+). Windows then used about 2GB+ for caching so I ended up with only about 500MB available. For some reason(memory fragmentation?) my performance dropped down when having this kind of heavy memory load.
Then I upgraded to 8GB and all was fine.

You can run 5 clients with 4GB memory too, but then you have to make sure that you have the swap file enabled (and fixed size and at least 4GB big). The biggest downside of the swapfile is performance, because your PC will often write unused memory to harddisk (which is slow).
09-29-2008, 09:24 AM
blast3r

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Originally Posted by 'pixelimp',index.php?page=Thread&postID=127347#pos t127347

I don't get it.
I run a 2.5ghz quadcore and 4gig ram, Shat and other big cities are a cake-walk for me.
Try running your copies on multiple hard-drives, that did it for me.

This helped a lot for me. Before i did this I had pretty much the same experience as the OP. now I just lag a bit when i get there then run around like normal.
09-29-2008, 10:27 AM
Coltimar

Yeah, RAM isn't the issue here, it's your data access. You could get a cheap fix (80gb WD hard drive for around $40) and get a decent boost. Someone else mentioned Symbiotic Links. Doing that helped me a lot as well. I am eventually going to a Solid State Disk because I am still not happy with my performance. If you can access more than 3.7GB of RAM the extra memory will help a bit but that is probably more expensive and it's not addressing the main issue.