Pally and Mage for super quick SM clearances.

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09-16-2008, 03:31 AM
shaeman

Pally and Mage for super quick SM clearances.

I had the privilege of having two guildies run my 3 alliance characters through SM last night for a bit of XP.

It was amazing. Unfortunately having 2 70's in the group nerfed my RAF bonus a big chunk, but it was worth it.

Full SM library clear in around 4 minutes - timing provided by remainder of paladins sanctuary buff :) . 3 pulls. lower courtyard. Upper courtyard. Then pull the entire cathedral by aggroing the boss.

Pally would gather aggro and the mage would flamestrike then blizzard. Took me longer to loot.

Armory runs went pretty quick too.
09-16-2008, 04:28 AM
Haruko

I strongly feel SM is hands down the best & fastest way to boost on any scale. glad things worked out for you.
09-16-2008, 08:29 AM
JonnyB

If there aren't any more nerfs to it, I think priests might just be the best class now for powerlevelling through those zones with Mind Sear. I copied a premade over, ran into ZF, and rounded up about 40 or 50 mobs and just mowed them down.

I was overall not thrilled with all the changes in Wrath but my pally + 4 shadow priest group looks like it may be a lot of fun if I make it to 75. I believe a blue said on the Blizzard forums priests might just be the best aoe class going forward (subject to nerfs of course). I'm still thinking I'll have to make 1 priest holy, or perhaps swap in one of my shamans as resto for healing duties. (Pally + priests @ lvl 51 currently, my 5x shaman are at 61.5)
09-16-2008, 10:31 AM
Naysayer

Rogue- unfair advantage

probably clear SM armory in 1 pull and with sprint it will probably take less than a minute.
09-16-2008, 10:57 AM
Sanctume

RE: Pally and Mage for super quick SM clearances.

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Originally Posted by 'shaeman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=121901#post 121901

I had the privilege of having two guildies run my 3 alliance characters through SM last night for a bit of XP.

It was amazing. Unfortunately having 2 70's in the group nerfed my RAF bonus a big chunk, but it was worth it.

Full SM library clear in around 4 minutes - timing provided by remainder of paladins sanctuary buff :) . 3 pulls. lower courtyard. Upper courtyard. Then pull the entire cathedral by aggroing the boss.

Pally would gather aggro and the mage would flamestrike then blizzard. Took me longer to loot.

Armory runs went pretty quick too.

My prot pally clears ALL mobs in SM in 2 pulls within 6 minutes. Then 2 pulls Armory (except Herod sucks for xp) in another 5 minutes. By then you have 1.5 minutes to zone and reset SM and can be non-stop without hitting instance cap of 5 per hours.

Sometimes, if the clearing exceeds 12.5 minutes, you can skip Whitemaine after killing his boyfirend the first time around--just start running to the zone and head to Armory. 1 mob exp sucks compared to AoE deaths.

SM can be one pulled but needs to open cath door, then hit onces every mob from courtyard 1 and 2 and into inside the cathedral. Can't be done in 1 minute since Whiltemaine will sleep you for 10 seconds.
09-16-2008, 11:02 AM
ChaoticMonk

I clear SM armory and Cath in with 1 pull for each (dont pull boss in Armory and dont kill the healer boss in Cath) but never timed myself...might have to give that a go with the next group I'm leveling.
09-16-2008, 11:04 AM
Sanctume

I do Armor in 2 pulls, but I skip Herod (waste of time in terms of xp/hour).

1st pull: all the courtyard.

2nd pull: 1 hit every mob, (mana tap, consecration rank 1) all the way to Herod's door, then run back to the hallway arch to los and start your consecrate/colusus/aoe silence.

In my multi-box setup, I hotkey follow on the 2nd, and I manually move the 2nd using stop points and auto run. Remember XP range is only within 1 less zoom of the minimap.

Also, looting is a waste of time in terms of xp/hour.
09-16-2008, 11:06 AM
ChaoticMonk

I still dont have colussus (9runs and counting) :( I do however have loot set to show me greens+, they sell for a ton on Draenor.
09-16-2008, 11:23 AM
Sanctume

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Originally Posted by 'ChaoticMonk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122013# post122013

I still dont have colussus (9runs and counting) :( I do however have loot set to show me greens+, they sell for a ton on Draenor.

It took me 25 runs to get it finally. I got everyone to revered :)
09-16-2008, 12:59 PM
Caspian

I just do Cathedral in 2 pulls, both courtyards then the cathedral. XP per hour looting is not worth it. gold per hour it is. I have made well over 3k gold + an asinine amount of enchanting mats, probably worth another 3-4k plus more silk to craft and DE with then I know what to do with plus all the coin and grays. The coin and grays paid for mounts and training for each group I ran through. It takes me 15 minutes for a full Cathedral including looting everything. About 12 minutes if I skip looting, the extra 3 minutes is worth it.

I can single pull armory on my prot pally. It usually bugs and mobs reset but I have done it 2 or 3 times. Cathedral is faster overall though. Library is the suck. I did get the epic ring though, that was cool. I usually do it once for the quest and to get the dudes the key.

I have pulled Cathedral almost 100 times and have about 8-9 more runs to go then i am NEVER EVER going back there.

I only use my poorly geared prot pally.
09-16-2008, 01:18 PM
ChaoticMonk

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Originally Posted by 'Caspian',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122064#post 122064

I can single pull armory on my prot pally. It usually bugs and mobs reset but I have done it 2 or 3 times.

I have the same issue when single pulling Cath and Armory. I find that putting down a rank1 concecrate after pulling each sections fixes the issues.
09-16-2008, 01:47 PM
Drizzit

this guy is insane with aoe pulling. If you like this vid check out his other vids.
09-16-2008, 02:30 PM
Caspian

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Originally Posted by 'ChaoticMonk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122078# post122078

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Originally Posted by 'Caspian',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122064#post 122064

I can single pull armory on my prot pally. It usually bugs and mobs reset but I have done it 2 or 3 times.

I have the same issue when single pulling Cath and Armory. I find that putting down a rank1 concecrate after pulling each sections fixes the issues.

I did start doing that recently in SFK and Cathedral but haven't been back to armory to try there, good idea
09-16-2008, 04:09 PM
ChaoticMonk

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122161#po st122161

Now, for a truely epic pull...

mount up with a prot pally and pull ALL of ZF. None of it resets if I recall correctly (if you don't have figurine of the colossas, you'll probably die).

Round them up, get aggro, BoP a 70 mage and kill them all. Really really really fast. :)

I'm SO gonna try that and see what happens lol. I'll keep my lowbies out of combat range and after the group gets to me I'll bubble the mage and myself, hopefully that'll make up for lack of trinket. :thumbsup: I just hope I dont get hexed while pulling cos that would screw up everything :(
09-16-2008, 04:12 PM
ChaoticMonk

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Originally Posted by 'Drizzit',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122092#post 122092

this guy is insane with aoe pulling. If you like this vid check out his other vids.

Cool. That trinket sure does wonders but using a sprint potion kinda gave it a 'cheapness' factor in my eyes.
09-16-2008, 05:49 PM
Caspian

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Originally Posted by 'ChaoticMonk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122183# post122183

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122161#po st122161

Now, for a truely epic pull...

mount up with a prot pally and pull ALL of ZF. None of it resets if I recall correctly (if you don't have figurine of the colossas, you'll probably die).

Round them up, get aggro, BoP a 70 mage and kill them all. Really really really fast. :)

I'm SO gonna try that and see what happens lol. I'll keep my lowbies out of combat range and after the group gets to me I'll bubble the mage and myself, hopefully that'll make up for lack of trinket. :thumbsup: I just hope I dont get hexed while pulling cos that would screw up everything :(

I have actually been hexed while doing a mounted pull. I was just a frog on my mount. I have the SS somewhere. You don't want to be hexed while your lowbies are in range. That is bad.
09-16-2008, 06:33 PM
ChaoticMonk

If the lowbies are far away enough not to enter combat but close enough to get xp, getting hexed would still have them smacking me right?
09-16-2008, 06:34 PM
Stabface

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122009#po st122009

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Originally Posted by 'Sanctume',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122007#pos t122007

My prot pally clears ALL mobs in SM in 2 pulls within 6 minutes. Then 2 pulls Armory (except Herod sucks for xp) in another 5 minutes. By then you have 1.5 minutes to zone and reset SM and can be non-stop without hitting instance cap of 5 per hours.

You can do Cath in 2 pulls (three if you count the hidden undead boss. lol).
You can't do Armory in 2 pulls, because the mobs reset. Its more like 3 or 4 pulls.
Library sucks balls, because it seems every corner the mobs reset.
Graveyard is ok if you toons are in the range.

But ya, Prot Paladins > all other classes for mass pulls.

Both Armory and Cathedral can be done 1 pull (yes - even the hidden undead guy in Cath). Library and Graveyard both have mobs that reset.
For boosting there's no point to do Library or Graveyard, unless you really want the Scarlet Key.
09-17-2008, 08:26 AM
Drizzit

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Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122161#po st122161

mount up with a prot pally and pull ALL of ZF

hobbs did this too... well sort of, he pulls and then has a aoe group take them down

there is 1 guy that does reset, the guy in the area with all the bugs, he doesn't leave that area.
09-17-2008, 08:51 AM
Los

Now i tried the arena bit in brd yesterday, the upper ring with all the ppl watching the arena. Tip, dont do that, you dont have the dps for it (lots of healers that i missed when i checked the mobs out :D) was funny though, but i just couldnt kill anybody :P. Gonna try zf now i guess hehe, doing brd is not very fast compared to sm cath runs. Or perhaps im doing it wrong, hwow do you pull brd?
09-17-2008, 09:27 AM
Caspian

The lyceum in BRD is nice. With RAF you can get your Vet there easily then chain summon down. Mobs are worth ~100-200 XP each, have around 600 HP and as long as you don't put out the flame will spawn forever. On my prot pally I was able to do around 100k an hour per toon with RAF in the low-mid 40s. You will need blessing of freedom.

I did this with 1 70 and 2 mid 40s RAF linked toons.

I also found that at 40-45 quest XP starts goes crazy and I was easily doing 150-200k an hour all the way to 60, which was faster, less boring and helped me learn classes new to me. I also felt the lyceum was a bit "borderline".

edit pre-coffee spelling
09-17-2008, 09:57 AM
Thulos

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Originally Posted by 'ChaoticMonk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122013# post122013

I do however have loot set to show me greens+, they sell for a ton on Draenor.

How do you set loot to show only greens or say even blues? This would be really useful for me as I don't like looting everything under the sun but I would like to loot disenchanting mats.
09-17-2008, 10:54 AM
puppychow

you can hit ~200k xp/hour from 45-60 just killing the baron skellies in strat, but it takes ~45-90 mins to clear to him so needs to be long sessions. park your guys outside the door, pally inside just consecrating and popping your trinket every c/d (I did it as 40/21 so I could heal myself with conc aura too).
09-17-2008, 11:06 AM
Caspian

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Originally Posted by 'Thulos',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122498#post1 22498

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Originally Posted by 'ChaoticMonk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122013# post122013

I do however have loot set to show me greens+, they sell for a ton on Draenor.

How do you set loot to show only greens or say even blues? This would be really useful for me as I don't like looting everything under the sun but I would like to loot disenchanting mats.

Master looter on your "main"
I set my Pally to master looter, pass on loot so the only thing she see lootable is a green or blue, she then assigns it to one of the other dudes.
the alts take turns passing on loot so I just loot on one of them until the bags are full then they don't loot and the other one does.

You change the loot type by right clicking on the party leader's character portrait on their screen and change each toon to pass on loot by doing the same. choose Pass on loot 'Yes" to not loot on that toon.

This new feature then went in a patch or two ago is great. Much better then just using Free for All.

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you can hit ~200k xp/hour from 45-60 just killing the baron skellies in strat, but it takes ~45-90 mins to clear to him so needs to be long sessions. park your guys outside the door, pally inside just consecrating and popping your trinket every c/d (I did it as 40/21 so I could heal myself with conc aura too).

These are only 3xp each with RAF, just like Zolo now. I tried to boost through strat and checked this specifically. My gear is not good enough to make strat boosting viable and the skelly trick is not worth it.
09-17-2008, 11:39 AM
Thulos

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Originally Posted by 'Caspian',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122538#post 122538

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Originally Posted by 'Thulos',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122498#post1 22498

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Originally Posted by 'ChaoticMonk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122013# post122013

I do however have loot set to show me greens+, they sell for a ton on Draenor.

How do you set loot to show only greens or say even blues? This would be really useful for me as I don't like looting everything under the sun but I would like to loot disenchanting mats.

Master looter on your "main"
I set my Pally to master looter, pass on loot so the only thing she see lootable is a green or blue, she then assigns it to one of the other dudes.
the alts take turns passing on loot so I just loot on one of them until the bags are full then they don't loot and the other one does.

You change the loot type by right clicking on the party leader's character portrait on their screen and change each toon to pass on loot by doing the same. choose Pass on loot 'Yes" to not loot on that toon.

This new feature then went in a patch or two ago is great. Much better then just using Free for All.

Thanks for the info. That will come in handy.
09-17-2008, 01:45 PM
ChaoticMonk

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Originally Posted by 'Thulos',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122498#post1 22498

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Originally Posted by 'ChaoticMonk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=122013# post122013

I do however have loot set to show me greens+, they sell for a ton on Draenor.

How do you set loot to show only greens or say even blues? This would be really useful for me as I don't like looting everything under the sun but I would like to loot disenchanting mats.

Never thaught to use the master looter option lol. I just leave it on group loot setting to the quality I want to see and pass on loot on my main and all alts except for 1. Whenever I see loot on my pally I know its green+ (or rare+ if you set that) and when he loots the roll window appears on the alt that didnt pass on loot.