keyclone development priorities

help prioritize keyclone development... which would you like to see first:

1. multi-language support
make all dialog boxes available in various languages
projected development time: 20-40 hrs

2. incorporate synergy-like functionality
enable keyclone to allow your mouse to move between machines shifting input focus to the different machines as you go. only 1 keyboard and mouse would be needed if you have keyclone up and connected
projected development time: 40+ hrs

3. it'd good enough, just fix bugs
projected development time: ++

Dual Monitor Support for Maximizer.

I speak english, so Multilanguage is a moot point from my pov.

I have Synergy working mostly, and Multiplicity working perfectly (I'm probably going to upgrade to pro for another $25) so Synergy like functionality wouldn't be overly useful to me.

Having the ability to maximize to my 2nd monitor would be priceless.

multi-monitor support is already on the list. these are more long range goals

I voted for "fix the bugs" after that I'd work on the synergy thing...

if you need help translating anything into Spanish btw, just PM it to me and I'll translate it and send it back, spent 13yrs in Spain, Spanish schools etc so I'm fluent.

Not interested in multi language, reason being I speak English... :D

Bug fixes would be cool.

And I run Synergy so don't need that at all...

Would like:

Some sort of management for the settings file (config.wtf) so I can have different files for different layouts. Say I launch my solo WoW from keyclone, but instead of running at 1024x768 I want it at 1280x1024 with all the trimmings, it'd be nice if keyclone could handle copying the config.wtf file in and out once I exit.

An offline macro editor, allowing me to make in game macros while offline, with syntax checking and stuff like that. :)

Whether or not either of those are within the remit of keyclone is beyond me. :)

I really don't think multi-language is that important since pretty much everybody using computers and internet knows enough english to use Keyclone. Adding easy to read documentation and tutorials reduce need for multi-language support and at the same time help everyone that might have problems setting up the program.

Synergy-like functionality would be great, tho not first priority. Synergy would be great without that 'spinning around' -problem. If you can provide something simple, similar to Synergy without the bug that ruins it, then I'm sure everybody will love you for it. :)

Ok here's my thoughts.

I wish this text window wasn't so stupidly small. It's like 1/20'th of my monitor.

MY setup - 2/1(main)/2. I mouse from window to window as neccesary with MultiBox. All keys should reach the active WoW, and a filtered set reach the other 4. Basically I use shift keys for 'this toon only' and normal and control modified for all toons, but I digress.

I have 3 options, to blacklist shift/movement keys, to whitelist common keys, or to use hotstrings. Currently I find that 2 of these options are not viable and 1 is buggy. This stuff has to be perfect IMHO, my main problem is that my alts,who are on follow, will spontaneously run whilst I'm just maneuvering my main. Usually this occurs to just one out of 4. Movement keys are not being broadcast, I have blacklisted them, so I need to first identify that thats my mage about to tank Shirraz, flick my mouse across, do the unintuitive thing of pressing the up key to unstick the key, by the time I have done this, my mage is already tanking Shirraz and his mana shield is down!. You can guess the outcome (i hate this fight with a passion). To try get around this I would blacklist shift/ctrl modified movement keys as well but all is not well, unfortunately.

I do believe WoW has a keysticking issue of its own, because sometimes my main will have particular movement keys locked which I need to alt tab to resolve which is just wierd, but ignore this. The case where my alts are being locked into running forward does not 'exhibit the same symptoms'.

So last night I am tired of this and I check out white listing again - it seems to work with modified keys on a single machine, but across the network, ctrl/alt modified keys simply do not work. I put CTRL+1 on the whitelist for 2 different machines and it will reach clients on the same machine but not the second machine.

So the third option is hotstrings. Conceptially, I like this. If a hotstring is mapped to a modified key, and I release the key NOT the modifier, keyclone will release the modifier as well on non active instances. But there is also a major problem: If I press CTRL + TAB and this is mapped to a hotstring, with 2 instances flagged with 'pass only hotstrings' and I release CTRL before TAB, CTRL is left stuck down on the non active instance. Thats a show stopper because I can't just hit CTRL to unstick across all instances I'll have to hit another extended key combo releasing in the opposite order, by the time I resolve all this on a boss fight I've probably wiped. It is cumbersome to use keymaps in this way - for my 5 instances of WoW I need to set the keymap on each one, and I also need to check 'pass only hotstrings' to achieve the whitelisting that I want. Default keymap and default option for 'pass only hotstrings' would be cool. Additionally with hotstrings - ALT modified hotstrings do not function - ALT is not passed to any window but the active one. And lastly in this mode (pass only hotstrings), keyclone doesn't respond to the override key.

The last minor issue is their is some key doubling. Don't ask me when or why, but in the active window where there is 2 instances on one machine... sometimes not always any non blacklisted key will be repeated.

There is lots of issues there 8)

The spontaneous running issue I get even when keyclone is not running! I get it dual/triple-boxing and occasionally solo. Nearly always one character gets locked into reverse gear and runs off backwards. :?

damn, guess it could be WoW. It just happened after an alt tab so i was thinkin maybe alt had something to do with it... man it sucks... kinda funny but still sucks.

I always run my main in a window but maximised (with the built in WoW option) alts are normally minimized or on a separate machine... which brings me to my request.

Can we have a linux version of Keyclone?

all very good input... please keep it coming.

re: linux
well... theoretically possible, just not currently in the cards (i develop linux/windows apps for work...)

re: keymaps and key modifiers
i will be addressing this directly (they are option 3 in the list).

i'm a bit surprised there has been 0 interest in multi-language support... good for me... i hate unicode, it's just a p.i.t.a :)

6 days left on the poll... currently leaning towards resolving the bugs and then looking into synergy functionality...

well,,,priorities aside.

Is this program working for VISTA? I seem to be having multiple problems trying to get KC and Synergy to work using my VISTA machine.

how about adding some DEFAULT KMAPs or possibly a ALL AROUND list on a notepad with your setup. Not sure what I am asking for but more is needed than the basic tutorial you have on your website.

thx

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Originally Posted by Sun

well,,,priorities aside.

Is this program working for VISTA? I seem to be having multiple problems trying to get KC and Synergy to work using my VISTA machine.

how about adding some DEFAULT KMAPs or possibly a ALL AROUND list on a notepad with your setup. Not sure what I am asking for but more is needed than the basic tutorial you have on your website.

thx

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Yes, works fine with Vista.

Default keymaps would be pretty useless since they are completely dependant on how you want to use the application. Multi-boxing is a very user based sport, what works for me wont work for you, I guarantee it.

The quick and dirty... fire it up, add two wows to it, and press buttons.