Which Software Solution is best for G15 use?

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09-02-2008, 11:27 AM
joypunk

Which Software Solution is best for G15 use?

I've decided to start my own dual-box team. I'll be using two instances of WoW on a single computer. I've already started fooling around with things and figured out that the best way for me to feel comfortable with this is to use the 18 G-keys on my G15 to send commands to my slave. I have all of the G-keys set using the Logitech software to be a combination of Ctrl-Alt-Shift-<key>.

So far I've only tried to use AutoHotKey with this setup, and I don't believe there is any way to make it work. I tested it pretty heavily last night. If I press the G-key on my master account, nothing happens on my slave. If I press the G-key on my slave account, he performs the action that the Ctrl-Alt-Shift-<key> is bound to. If I press the Ctrl-Alt-Shift-<key> on my master, the slave also performs the correct action. Using the G-key isn't being registered on the slave account. (The key combination is being sent as an "artificial" type by AutoHotKey, and I believe that's my problem.)

I *think* KeyClone will work the way I need it to, but I'm not willing to spend the money "just to check". I've been told I should also try HotKeyNet.

Does anyone have recommendations for which software solution is going to work?

Thanks.
09-02-2008, 11:45 AM
Fizzler

I can only speak with any authority on keyclone it definetly will work for you. It is what I use and do not know how I could live with out. It makes setting up software dual boxing straight forward. As for AHK I use it for other work related productivity but I know many folks swear by it also.
09-02-2008, 04:38 PM
joypunk

Thanks for the reply, Fizzler.

Do you have a G15 that you use with KeyClone? I don't mean to second-guess you... I'd just like confirmation from someone that knows from first-hand experience.

I've taken a good look at KeyClone, and I really like what I see. It seems easy to setup and use, and has some features that I think are great (PiP for example)... but if I can't use my G15 keys the way I'm planning to use them then it's not worth anything.

I'm going to give HotKeyNet a try later tonight and see if it will work for me.
09-02-2008, 04:51 PM
luxlunae

Have you poked around on autohotkey's website?

One minute, I have some time to kill....

someone on the auto-hot-key forums suggested inserting a small pause between the keys when you send them

Ctrl wait Alt wait Shift, or whichever order. I'm guessing this might fix your problem if you are dedicated to staying with autohotkey.
09-02-2008, 04:59 PM
Taurgos22

not sure if i get what your saying but this is how i use my g15. Il throw the slaves macro onto its bar, keybind that button to say ctrl shift and ?. then i will go onto my g15's profiler and set say g2's keystroke to ctrl + shift + ?. Currently im using keyclone broadcasting to 2 pc's and everything works fine. now i dont know if your doing 1 slave or multiple just make sure on each slave you use you bind the same macro to ctrl shift ? or whatever and everything should work fine.
09-02-2008, 05:08 PM
joypunk

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Originally Posted by 'luxlunae',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114810#pos t114810

Have you poked around on autohotkey's website?

One minute, I have some time to kill....

someone on the auto-hot-key forums suggested inserting a small pause between the keys when you send them

Ctrl wait Alt wait Shift, or whichever order. I'm guessing this might fix your problem if you are dedicated to staying with autohotkey.

Yup, I found that post, too. I tried the pause also. The issue seems to be the "artificial" type of keypress being sent. I could be wrong, but my dinking around has narrowed it down to that.

I'm not dedicated to staying with AHK, it was just free and I had a script all setup for it (thanks to -Silencer- in the Software forum).

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Originally Posted by 'Taurgos22',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114817#po st114817

not sure if i get what your saying but this is how i use my g15. Il throw the slaves macro onto its bar, keybind that button to say ctrl shift and ?. then i will go onto my g15's profiler and set say g2's keystroke to ctrl + shift + ?. Currently im using keyclone broadcasting to 2 pc's and everything works fine. now i dont know if your doing 1 slave or multiple just make sure on each slave you use you bind the same macro to ctrl shift ? or whatever and everything should work fine.

That's exactly what I'm looking to do. I'm only going to be dualboxing (I don't want to pay for 3+ accounts. =P ), and I could do it on two PC's but I'd prefer to do it all on my main rig.

Thanks for the confirmation that KeyClone will work for what I want.

I'm still going to give HKN a try tonight because, and I freely admit it, I'm a bit stingy with my money and I'd rather not pay for something if I can accomplish the same thing for free. ;) If it doesn't work, though, pretty sure I'll be going with KeyClone.
09-02-2008, 05:51 PM
Vyndree

[quote='luxlunae',index.php?page=Thread&postID=1148 10#post114810]inserting a small pause between the keys[/quote]

I wouldn't.

[url='http://dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/GM_Conversations#Regarding_Delays_.26_Timers_in_ou t-of-game_Macros']Regarding Delays & Timers in out-of-game Macros[/url]

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Originally Posted by GM Malkorix

Multiple key presses/uses of abilities from a single command, spoken or typed? Not okay.
Inserting pauses? Not okay.
A single key press or command that issues a command to several different characters? Okay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GM Malkorix

If, on the other hand, you're using a G15, or anything else capable of utilizing macroed 'delays', then that is not okay

(Note that using a G15 is ok -- but using the G15's DELAYS is not ok... See linked page for original post links for context)
09-02-2008, 06:02 PM
Gaffy

I use a G-11 (G-15 minus the lcd) with keyclone, all my G-keys are CTRL+<key> and I have had no problems at all with it. All keys get passed with the modifier. So you should have no problems.
09-02-2008, 08:30 PM
Yamio

I would love to use a G-15 or X-Keys but I don't trust the false-positives that Blizzard's software scans sometimes produce. Hearing about the problems of trying to convince Blizz that you are not a cheater is enough for me to continue using just a keyboard.
09-02-2008, 08:48 PM
Vyndree

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Yamio',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114934#post11 4934

false-positives that Blizzard's software scans

Neither the XKeys or the G15 are "software". The G15 DRIVERS require software, but the PS2 Xkeys does not. It's the same as a standard keyboard.

Check this out regarding the G15:
http://dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.ph...of-game_Macros
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...geNo=1&sid=1#4
09-02-2008, 09:28 PM
joypunk

HotKeyNet worked PERFECTLY! I just added in the Ctrl-Alt-Shift-<key> combinations into the script, loaded it up, and they all passed flawlessly from one client to the next.

Yay, I'm dual boxing. =)
09-02-2008, 10:19 PM
Fizzler

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'joypunk',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114799#post 114799

Thanks for the reply, Fizzler.

Do you have a G15 that you use with KeyClone? I don't mean to second-guess you... I'd just like confirmation from someone that knows from first-hand experience.

I've taken a good look at KeyClone, and I really like what I see. It seems easy to setup and use, and has some features that I think are great (PiP for example)... but if I can't use my G15 keys the way I'm planning to use them then it's not worth anything.

I'm going to give HotKeyNet a try later tonight and see if it will work for me.

*mourn* my original version G15 went the way of the Do-Do. Or to be more precise a 2 year old spilt juice on it. I use the G11 now and it works perfect.