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I just realized how awesome a holy priest can be for a shaman boxer. AoE teams should become super easy mode.
Will definitely be looking for one.
Contrary to popular belief, I found that holy priests aren't squishy at all.
Furthermore, 15 second, UNDISPELLABLE bubble after dying.. how awesome is that?
Spirit of redemption can still be silenced, counterspelled, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by 'magwo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114489#post11 4489
Ah.. that's a bit dangerous.. but it's still immune to cyclone, poly, stun, fear, blind..
Holy priests are as squishy as marshmallows. Disc priests, however, are more akin to an anvil.
Any team worth their salt will just wait for the 15 seconds to expire (of course you can try to revive during that time, but I doubt they'll allow you to do that). Btw, spirit of redemption used to have a 10 second duration. It was increased to 15 seconds, because a lot of players complained about lag causing them to not be able to cast during the first couple of seconds. What I'm trying to say is, you're probably better of with a tactic that doesn't depend on your healer being dead :)
Well.
I don't really see disc priests being that much more robust than holy priests. Tbh I find shadow priests paperlike compared to holy priests.
I have just started to discover the fun that is being the ironman disc priest
Reflective shield
Pain suppression
Focused will
Blessed recovery
Take a holy priest into the arena and watch him get rolled in 20 seconds by a spamstring warrior or lolstep rogue. Take a disc one and they can beat on you while you go have your taxes done, watch a movie, and then maybe you may have to hot yourself.
A disc priest+ shammy boxer= one pissed off team that just got rolled
20 seconds is plenty of time for me to win the game. :)
Some of the teams in nightfall bg would of been fun for ya last night....
Took my green cousin in to the arena with my 2 toons and in the 1500's was facing ppl with full s4 except for shoulders and weps. if you can roll them in 20 seconds im coming to your bg lawl
The difference between a holy and disc spec for survivability is amazing. I have a decently PVE geared priest that I tried to do a few arenas with while specced for PVE, OMFG it was instant death, and this was in 2v2. I respecced Disc with the same gear, under 8k health and almost zero resil, and am doing much better. The spec change was amazing.
Here is my priest: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...hridge&n=Varem
Well, I did try a good geared Holy priest at the very start of my career.. and I believe we did quite well.. I think we almost took 1600 with me at about 150 resilience and 600 spell dmg or so.
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Originally Posted by 'KvdM',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114520#post114 520
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ahah awesome :D
Im currently running with a geared preist, +2500 heals and 500 resilience.
By far the best healer I have come across yet. Its my usual pallies main toon. I have played with many Dpriests and the biggest difference I can see is that his heals are much more powerful, on par or above what a similarly geared pally does.
If you priest can survive two rogues, they are viable. I have had priests that can't handle one rogue, and I've had others that an handle three. If your priest can handle rogues, its gg. I have had great luck with them.
My big win for the week was against the number 4 team on the bg. He flash heals until he's oom, then drinks up. In one fight he healed for 180k, and yes we won. I look at it this way too, if they are focusing him, they are letting me damage...and I believe Ill win that race everytime. Quadbox FTW.
Can you link his armory, I would love to see his gear, sounds pretty awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Elektric',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114705#pos t114705
I don't know what to say, other than you haven't been playing with the right disc priest. There is absolutely no comparison, survivability-wise, between then two in pvp. Disc priest will crush holy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'magwo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114527#post11 4527
If you have the chance, spec both holy and then disc and run into a large group of reds in a BG and try to keep yourself alive as long as possible. It should be clear which spec is more durable under focus.
My personal belives is that Disc priest will become the best healer for 4x shamans in WOTLK due to the fact that they get divine hymn (even thought that sleep shares DR with fear??) Add the HeX spell to shamans you suddenly have a heavy CC team with if you setup focus before you charge in.
Divine Hymn: http://thottbot.com/wotlk/s47951
If you manage to cc theyr healers long enough it wont take long to take out a mage even with iceblock.
If you have a skilled discpriest a paladins bubble or a iceblock should be removed within a second.. A good priest KNOWS when he should have his mass dispell ready while a normal one see a paladin bubble then finds the button and removes it.
Now here is how a encounter would look to me.
Get in and get in position while you set focus to 4 different targets that you want hexxed. You wont be able to set focus on druids and rogues since they apparently are stealthed but this can ofc be done in combat pretty easy with proximo once the druid is out. Belive it or not polymorph IS effective against druids even if they can shapeshift out and into caster form its 3 seconds lost and ive been locked down for 9 seconds on my druid this way.
Lets say you meet a setup with warrior,elemental shaman,disc priest,holy paladin and frost mage:
Focus purging from early on and do it ASAP(reason is that once they pop bloodlust/hearoism your priest can mass dispell it right off hopefully with you assisting) You also want the fear ward removed fast from the paladin/priest. Your priest should also be in charge of taking down the grounding totem AND the tremor totem(most importan)
Cant say for sure if Divine Hymn works on ranged casters or not but lets say it does and it can screw up a rush totally. Get behinde the pillar and use it now your out los'ed the priest/paladin and he will have a hard time getting in a mass dispell properly. Hopefully this will fool the warrior and if your lucky the elemental shaman to trinket even thought most good warriors will just wait unless they see a LB loading up. Now trought a though time he can be HeXed and you wont have to worry about the MS effect for a while. The ONLY player who can remove this now is the mage who should be stressed with focused damage and mass dispelling if hes in range and triest to IB! Since you still can move under hex expect to get losed alot but still its nice since he cant damage you atleast and a aoe stun/silence cycle will be totaly broken.
But you still have your priests Pshy scream..
Atleast even thought im crap at explaining the point is to force a trinket/bubble in the first 60 seconds. During the next wave of HEX/Fear most of the team wont have the trinket ready and you should ATLEAST get the priest hexed since the paladin can bubble the second one. He can serve as a good target thought if the mage already IB and is currenlty hexxed.
We dont know how WOTLK end up but atm i realy have strong belives in 4 shamans and a disc priest. Disc priest current weakness is Meele wich ele shamans now can counter with thunderstorm. But with a proper setup on your focus macros you will hex 4 targets with one button.
What worries me thought is the short range off 20 yards wich means non meele most likley wont be in range! :(
totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'BobGnarly',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114724#po st114724
I started 2 days ago with arena's on my priest, like 50 resi, and crap pve healing gear.
I started out shadow (got a warlock partner SL spec), died so fast it wasn't even funny
Respecced holy... well i died even faster even tho i got a few heals off..
I specced disc... We went from 1400 back to 1520 in no-time, i actually manage to kite alot of classes by just burning them and they cant kill me. (except lolstringspamming warriors)
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Originally Posted by 'Elektric',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114705#pos t114705
Not calling anyone a liar here, but 2500 + heal and 500 resil sounds too high. I'd like to see the armory on that one as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by 'shockernub',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114715#p ost114715
I thinks this is his team
http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.x...nteresting+uhn
I'll just say that I find this TERRIBLY hard to believe then.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'lexuspartsdude',index.php?page=Thread&postID=1154 48#post115448
Here's the priest I run with's armory. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...fang&n=Thymbul
He's sitting at 435 resilience and +1773 heal (without his Redeemer's, since we actually started using Blue Dragon to GREAT effect) and he's 4/5 s4 w/ s3 shoulders, and s4 everything else but his weapon which is the s3 badge equivilient. Granted he's disc, but if this priest is in 500 resilience gear, then he's got pretty much baseline spirit - which rules out any +heal bonus from the holy tree. Plus, all this talk about holy priests. We tried it for the longest time, and found that 41 pt disc/holy was just far better than spirit of redemption or anything you can get from the holy tree. If your holy priest dies while silenced, he cannot cast spirit, so you've effectively removed that from a fight. Feel free to try it, but I can speak from experience and getting past 2k this week, that the disc/holy spec is far superior.
The best winrating i have had so far was with a Dwarf Disc prist. We went in and made 100 rating directy and called it as i wanted to buy the legs then. A disc prist is one of the less squiquier healing classes. And if you get a dwarf he will be close to imune to fear AND he will almost have a bubble since palys normaly is using bubble against focsed CC rather then geting nuked in our setups. A dwarf prist can do the same. Stoneform and no CC can touch him for 12 sec :D The only problem is their mana.. He will go oom fast. So you have to watch out his mana in longer games and make him able to drink at some points.
iv playd my first 200 games whit 2 differend priests on human on drainei, but nevner relly won that mucth, so i wantet to try something new startet out whit a warrior and just tryed to rush and kill, 0-5 score and we called it, then i found a pala not that great gered but meh lets try it, we didet use Teamspeak or anything but an easy 13-3 score and we then stopped as i want my chest next week. but i relly find pala way better the priests i run whit was oom in no time
Armory link or didn't happen!Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Elektric',index.php?page=Thread&postID=114705#pos t114705
i want to play with jesus too.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Baía',index.php?page=Thread&postID=117632#post117 632