The Ultimate Tankadin Macro - Want one more thing in, cant get it in

So I run with 4 shamans + 1 Paladin. (1 Resto Shaman, 1 Prot Pally, 3 Elemental Shamans). Awesome combo, did Mana Tombs at 62 today. Bosses where "iffy", close call on the kills, a few wipes included.

However, I REALLY found the need to include a dispell routine into my "spam macro".

This is how my spam macro looks now :
#showtooltip Consecration
/startattack
/castrandom Consecration, Holy Shield, Hammer of Wrath, Exorcism


This way, whenever anything is up, it will go off. (I Seal and Judge + pull with my mouse)

What I would like in there is something like :

#showtooltip Consecration
/startattack
/cast [target=mouseover] Cleanse
/castrandom Consecration, Holy Shield, Hammer of Wrath, Exorcism

Purpose : If there is something dispellable underneath my cursor, do so. If not, do any of the tanking casts that is off cooldown.

Needless to say, this doesn't work. So anyone have an idea how I can combine all this into one macro?

Maybe something like:

/castrandom [target=mouseover,help] cleanse; [harm] consecration, holy shield, hammer of wrath, exorcism

Will work, but that only has a 1 in 5 chance of casting Cleanse.

This is what I use.
#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast Judgement
/stopcasting
/cast Seal of Righteousness

Spam the above to attack and build more aggro.

#showtooltip
/cast [modifier:alt] Consecration(Rank 1); Consecration

Then I put holy shield on my attack button.. I am spamming that to attack so it hits holy shield whenever its up.

I use the same setup and im wondering why you need to cleanse at all on the pally?

i have 1 button bound for all the shammys which does

/targetparty

/castrandom Cure Poison,Cure Disease

I have this on 2 of the shammys and on the other 2 i have

/targetparty 1

/castrandom Cure Poison, Cure Disease

Putting the 1 there makes it cycles backwards through the party. I jsut spam this until everyone or whoever needs cleansing is done. Takes at most a couple of clicks. Which is only a second or two. I use to run with the pally using this as well which on his bar was

/targetparty

/cast Purify

I just became annoyed with having to reclick on the mob i wanted to attack. (I use focus) and then continuing on the dps macro which includes the assist.

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Originally Posted by 'Pact',index.php?page=Thread&postID=106795#post106 795

im wondering why you need to cleanse at all on the pally?

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magic debuffs :P

ooh...i fail :P

forgot all about those lol.

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Originally Posted by 'Stabface',index.php?page=Thread&postID=106745#pos t106745

Will work, but that only has a 1 in 5 chance of casting Cleanse.

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In practical terms, no. Most likely, since all of the casts in that sequence are on cooldowns, chances are everything is on cooldown, and if something is off cooldown, only 1 thing is off, so worst case scenarion, 50% chance of casting Cleanse.

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Originally Posted by 'pinotnoir',index.php?page=Thread&postID=106753#po st106753

This is what I use.
#showtooltip
/stopcasting
/cast Judgement
/stopcasting
/cast Seal of Righteousness

Spam the above to attack and build more aggro.

#showtooltip
/cast [modifier:alt] Consecration(Rank 1); Consecration

Then I put holy shield on my attack button.. I am spamming that to attack so it hits holy shield whenever its up.

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Well, to be fair, the spam macro is just that, a spam macro. I have a "get ready to pull macro which is (sp? servers are down, this is an approximation):

Pally : /castsequence [reset=15) Seal of the Crusader, Holy Shield, Consecration
Shammy 1 : /castsequence [reset=15) Healing Stream, Air totem, Windfury -- Have a similar pull macro, but with double grounding at the end instead for caster pulls.
Shammy 2 : /castsequence [reset=15) Healing Stream, Air Totem, Grace of Air
Other 2 shammys are played by my wife (we 2 + 3 box, she has the Resto shaman and another Elemental shaman), but her pull setup is similar.

I usually pull with Avenger Shield between 2 and 3 (so after Holy Shield, but before I pop Consecration). When they reach me, I use a Judge macro just to put Seal of Righteousness up in 1 button (since Seal doesnt pop GCD)

AFTER all this I spam my spam button :) And the only thing I every find myself wanting to do except "OH SHIIIT" stuff like bubble, lay on hands etc, is cleanse magic debuffs, and doing Mana Tombs at 62 yesterday, those stacking Immolates HURT!

Anyway, gonna try the setup mentioned above, see how that works out for me. Thanks!

Just install Decursive. If you're already taking the time to mouseover something, decursive's interface is just what you need. One click to cleanse any of your toons. I set the scale on mine to 300% on each toon to make it clearly visible for PiP.

hmm now i have no idea tbh so I'm just going to throw something out there :S probably wont work tho


#showtooltip Consecration
/startattack
/cast [target=mouseover,help,nodead] Cleanse
/stopcasting
/castrandom Consecration, Holy Shield, Hammer of Wrath, Exorcism

If it does work, there is an added problem tho..

if you spamm this chances are you will not get Hammer of Wrath to go off, seeing as you will be constantly interrupting urself :S

Make sure the option is enabled to auto cast on self and you can put the cleanse spell right in the spam macro. This will take care of all magic debuffs that your paladin gets (except for silence). I know you want to just use it to debuff other members, and I haven't tried some of the macros posted yet, but I think that they have potential.

However, in the vast majority of PVE encounters as long as your paladin is cleansing himself you can pretty much ignore the other toons. Many mobs will just try to recast the same debuff on your paladin after you cleanse it. I have a seperate cleanse button for when i absolutely need to cleanse my other characters, but it hardly gets used on my paladin. (fortunately i have a priest healer that does most of my dispelling while raiding. In 5 mans I just use this all in one macro with the paladin self cleansing)

/castrandom Cleanse,Holy Shield,Etc.

To this point I've been using this:

/castsequence Consecration, Holy Shield, Judgement, Seal of Righteousness

But I'm wondering, would this work?

/castsequence Consecration, Holy Shield
/cast Judgement
/stopcasting
/cast Seal of Righteousness

I'd like to guarantee that Consecration or Holy Shield are going off every time they can, but in my existing one I'm wondering if I'm missing some of the Judgements and Seal of Righteousness at times.

Also - someone above mentions just using Judgement and Seal of Righteousness in their spam macro (guessing they kick off Consecration and Holy Shield beforehand - but how do you ensure you are using Holy Shield every time you can? Also, is that enough aggro to ensure the healer isn't getting aggro, or shamans/hunters using chain lighting/multishot?

The reason I'm asking is that I notice my paladin burns through mana FAST. At MOST I make it two fights in an instance before having to drink to regain mana. Even bumping that up to three fights would speed up instance runs a lot. (Heck, I guess possibly not using chain lighting/multishot to allow the pally 3+ fights would speed things up alone.)

My paladin burns through mana way faster than my DPS. It has been getting worse as his gear improves. He takes less dmg, needs less heals, and less mana is restored during combat. I compensated for that by putting lower rank tanking spells in. You'll have to fine tune your spell ranks so that your dps isn't pulling agro, and mana is getting conserved, just try:

/castrandom Holy Shield(Rank1),Consencration(Rank1),Cleanse,Exorcis m(Rank1),Hammer of Wrath(Rank1),etc

to start, and then adjust ranks if you're pulling agro.


Don't forget to make another button (or adjust this one) with full ranks for when you're raid tanking or actually going up against something that will smack you around and you get plenty of mana from heals.

In addition, if threat is still not an issue, use Seal of Wisdom.

Anymore I start the battle with seal of wisdom, full rank avengers shield, then drop a full rank consecration. From there i just mash my down-ranked castrandom tanking macro. My paladin has 450 spell dmg though.

Ok, why use /castrandom rather than /castsequence? That doesn't seem efficient to me...?

The Seal of Wisdom idea is a good one - I'll have to give that a try. The idea of downranking spells won't last long, Blizzard will have that removed by the time Wrath comes out, so I won't bother doing it down only to undo it later on (and get grumpy about it).

Why even bother casting this stuff? Paladin tank in 5 mans is OP, get some spell damage and frisbee/JoR the 1st target and Consecrate+SoR will hold the rest. Don't waste mana generating extra threat that you don't need. It's easy to run the math based on TPS, DPS and mob HP... to find out exactly how much of a threat lead you need to hold aggro. Maybe if you get a string of crits + LO procs on the 1st or 2nd target you can lose aggro, but that's what taunt/stun/BoP is for!

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Originally Posted by 'Ðeceased',index.php?page=Thread&postID=107642#pos t107642

hmm now i have no idea tbh so I'm just going to throw something out there :S probably wont work tho


#showtooltip Consecration
/startattack
/cast [target=mouseover,help,nodead] Cleanse
/stopcasting
/castrandom Consecration, Holy Shield, Hammer of Wrath, Exorcism

If it does work, there is an added problem tho..

if you spamm this chances are you will not get Hammer of Wrath to go off, seeing as you will be constantly interrupting urself :S

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How about:
#showtooltip Consecration
/startattack
/cast [target=mouseover,help,nodead] Cleanse
/stopmacro
/castrandom Consecration, Holy Shield, Hammer of Wrath, Exorcism

I think this should work, As I think if there's nothing to dispel it will skip that line.