Can we get some support maybe petition to get /follow back in wow Bg's??

im not endorsing any bad stuff like threats we could try something like get the wow multiboxer community to get together and say hey were here and we wanna player can we have our follow back even if its on a bnet specific basis meaning you have to apply for the /follow ability for bg's /rbg's xD i really miss doing bg's on low level's and my 90 shamans right as i really got hooked and leveled my 5 shamans 1-90 during av weekend i was about to commit to 5 more accts to step it up then they took our follow away i would think if we rally around in a positive way and getblizzard's attention just maybe we can get it back

p.s. i know im terrible at spelling/grammar

Sincerely Screwhat-Hydraxis

I support not bringing follow back into bgs

Even if "we" multiboxers petitioned them for a return of /follow in BGs, it does not mean they necessarily would listen or implement it. As hated as "we" are, I'm not sure it is worthwhile for them to make that sort of change and have to deal with the backlash of the rest of the community. If Blizzard wanted a "truce" with us on the /follow issue, we probably would have heard something about it before or around the time they decided to remove it. Right now, generally speaking, the non-boxing PvPers are happy they aren't getting destroyed by us, Blizzard doesn't have to listen to as many people complain about the multiboxing issue in BGs, and we can still multibox both pve and pvp.

The fact remains that we are still able to multibox BGs. I'm not saying it is as easy or clean as it was when we had /follow - but we still can box them. Now I'll gladly support an official petition to Blizzard on our behalf, I'm just saying I would not get our hopes up but I wish anyone good luck who wants to start a petition.

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Originally Posted by micron85

leveled my 5 shamans 1-90 during av weekend i was about to commit to 5 more accts to step it up

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And that is the issue ... people found ways to circumvent the normal 5 player limit that can queue up for BG's and turn an already very powerful 5m team into unstoppable 10m teams that have 1 button god mode. While that's definitely my personal subjective opinion, I've always found that 5 players are the limit of what can be called common sense in pvp. I actually warned way ahead of the /follow removal that those big groups would lead to some sort of action taken by Blizzard. And while I can't prove it I believe if there were no 5+ boxers around in pvp, /follow would still be enabled in bg's.

They could re-enable /follow for me if:
- the one that gets followed has to confirm that the other one can follow
- no more than 5 toons can be in a 'follow' group
If not then I'd rather not see it making a come back.

I would play again if I could /follow in BG :) I'm in favour!

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Originally Posted by zenga

And that is the issue ... people found ways to circumvent the normal 5 player limit that can queue up for BG's and turn an already very powerful 5m team into unstoppable 10m teams that have 1 button god mode. While that's definitely my personal subjective opinion, I've always found that 5 players are the limit of what can be called common sense in pvp. I actually warned way ahead of the /follow removal that those big groups would lead to some sort of action taken by Blizzard. And while I can't prove it I believe if there were no 5+ boxers around in pvp, /follow would still be enabled in bg's.

They could re-enable /follow for me if:
- the one that gets followed has to confirm that the other one can follow
- no more than 5 toons can be in a 'follow' group
If not then I'd rather not see it making a come back.

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I feel the same way i think it was a big step in there choice on the table that night. They removed av pefoum saying they do not want players queuing up more then 5+ yet more and more boxers was going to ten boxing. computers got better more windows was getting easier.
Everyone said they nerver stop them because of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ well they did.

My POV

Still don't get why everyone is crying over this. It was removed to stop the easy (free) youtube bot. That to many was using. Bg's are fine without follow and am having a lot of fun in them! (btw the other way to stop that bot we would of hated even more.)


i can not see anything changing till warlords to be fair.

We can hope it be added in hc bg's they talked about just before blizzcon. (the prob is if bots are going to get there way in the games again.)

last time i got told they was toying with /follow on battle.net as bots would not really use it and it stop the 8+ boxers in av that is not fun for anyone.

All posting on the forums and stuff makes us look like 3 year old not getting candy even to us. We have a lot of hate as it is. We are unsupported.

Hell its like the old school dual-boxing using 5 pc's to box on using focus macros removing all the key maps out of wow's ui so the "clones" don't go running off. That made it when your "leader" dead you was more of less F**KED them days without /follow i understand. Now a days it just makes life a little easyer. its just retraining your self to play the "new" way.

Many talks with players that got banned last week from gm's for calling me names in /bg and then reporting me at the end of the game it was not me that got banned it was them for calling me every thing under the sun ya they only got a 2 day ban but still. (they came back and said sorry lol was a nice guy in the end.)

Multi-boxers get enough of a pass with all the software we use. Bottom line, we usually just don't get considered with these types of design decisions. It was a positive enough change, or at least neutral that not enough people demand it back. It cuts down on habitual afkers and dumb botters. Personally,I don't have a whole lot of respect for people using 5+accounts to blow the tar out of people, any more than I do for level capped folks ganking lowbies. If you're power trip means that much, find a workaround.

I'm against adding /follow back to BGs. When they removed it, it instantly removed a ton of bad multiboxers flooding BGs. And bad in two ones - one, pay to win, not contributing, playing gimmick comps or running massively undergeared toons with poor setups and pissing people off more than bots; if they wanted to do batttlegrounds, they needed to put some effort into a proper setup and not just hop in and take up spots. Two - it removed the toxic type that abused the kick feature for anyone who didn't tell them how awesome their green geared quad disc priest (or whatever) comp was; even some skilled multiboxers with excellent setups and gear would abuse this and just boot anyone who looked at them the wrong way.

There were a ton of these boxers with the proliferation of software boxing and better hardware - everyone was doing it just because they could. They were no better than bots and in many cases contributed less. Battlegrounds, dungeons, and raids are not a playground for us to test things out or take up spots and troll. That negatively impacts other peoples' gameplay.

There were excellent workarounds found from day one - IWT pets and mounts; those who are still serious about doing battlegrounds are still doing them, and those who put in the time and effort to contribute, build a viable team, and so forth, would know how to use these workarounds.

You can still do BGs. This may sound brash, but if you can't figure out how to implement the workaround, you don't need to be clogging up a 10 or 15 man BG with your toons simply because you bought more accounts and feel entitled.

It's less of a problem now, but even if you were geared to the teeth, playing properly, and instagibbing other players, the other faction hated it. And in certain BGs it even caused your own faction to lose if you were tunnel visioned on just gibing players and not doing the objectives. Then both sides were pissed off. Hopefully there are few enough boxers now that this goes under the radar. I rarely BG anymore but when I do, I do the 40 mans which I am able to do with 10-15x and pretty much guarantee a win due to a turtle at our base. I'm sure the other faction is furious but at least it's better than ttrying to do a WSG or AB and not being able to cap flags or hold nodes and pissing off both factions.


I was not sure how to feel about it at first, but months later I've noticed overall it was a positive thing. Multiboxers abusing LFR and Dungeons, being toxic and not contributing is still a problem, but hopefully a lesser one. People seem to get more pissed off about PVP in general. I fear if this hadn't happened, Blizzard may've taken more drastic action against multiboxers.

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Multi-boxers get enough of a pass with all the software we use. Bottom line, we usually just don't get considered with these types of design decisions. It was a positive enough change, or at least neutral that not enough people demand it back. It cuts down on habitual afkers and dumb botters. Personally,I don't have a whole lot of respect for people using 5+accounts to blow the tar out of people, any more than I do for level capped folks ganking lowbies. If you're power trip means that much, find a workaround.

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Its not a power trip for some of us.. for me.. BGs ( AV in particular ) was all about progressing all my toons at once. I pay to play multi accounts.. i should be able to progress them in any content at the same time. BGs were fun.. and yes its fun, in an evil kind of way, to "blow" people up as you say.. but its a lot more involved than that.

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Originally Posted by Lyonheart

Its not a power trip for some of us.. for me.. BGs ( AV in particular ) was all about progressing all my toons at once. I pay to play multi accounts.. i should be able to progress them in any content at the same time. BGs were fun.. and yes its fun, in an evil kind of way, to "blow" people up as you say.. but its a lot more involved than that.

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You should re read what you type as you contradicted yourself. Also you were not progressing your characters by sitting in AV one shotting green geared characters. You and the other bg heroes were part of the problem no matter how much money was spent.

Edit: also I have had no problems doing bgs without follow