Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' (FTL) setup.

currently atm i am not able to play during the week damn schools
bandwidth stinks so im stuck to reading this site over n over n over
again and trying to understand this thread cause this one sounds like
it would be awesome to be able to use for playing. Although im not new
to multiboxing this leaderless setup has me a little bit confused. Atm
i have key bindings on f8-f12 that they will switch and target that
player found problem sometimes they dont switch right so in instances=
wipes. Reading this i know sounds confusing what im writing but ill
try my best to break it down. I was looking at my keyclone keymap
editor ok i did on the key line i put as a key command lctrl+lalt+<
now the hotstring is the
??? and then where would u bind that long macro to cause it doesnt seem like it would fit i guess im really confused so anyhelp thru forum or private message would be awesome did it once with keyclone and he got me started on how he does it but i have been seeing this and how many people like it this way to say i need help ty.

hi,
well i'm a little bit short of time, so i like to only point you in the right direction ;)
Did you have a look on the wiki-entry of the ftl? (see my sig)
Perhaps have a look at the examples there to get a better impression what to do.

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I was looking at my keyclone keymap editor ok i did on the key line i put as a key command lctrl+lalt+< now the hotstring is the??? and then where would u bind that long macro to cause it doesnt seem like it would fit

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The target/cast macro should be bound to < ingame.

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Originally Posted by 'sactown',index.php?page=Thread&postID=154077#post 154077

Im new to dual boxing. Let me know a little bit about it. you can send an email sactown.916@hotmail.com

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LET ME SHOW YOU MY DUAL BOXINGS.

Sorry, but that's either spam (in which case, fail) or you're really lazy and posting in the wrong thread if you're new to all this.

Hey guys,

I finally got the chance to give the FTL system a serious look this weekend. I just want to thanks all those who put so much time into dreaming up and sharing this technique.

My own, very very minor, contribution is that replacing (or inserting just before) the "cast" command in the macros the following line was very helpful for finding all those stupid little mistakes during setup. It assumes that all your slaves and your main are already grouped.

/p %t

or if you prefer to be more verbose and have room in your macro...

/p My target is %t.

The wiki already described doing something similar to have the slaves declare who was leading, but I found this helpful in having the slaves declare their target. By completely replacing the cast line with this during set up, you can fire off the macros all day long and see what's going on without having to literally fight mobs while you're at it.

Also,

If there was a link to the FTL system from the main wiki, or even from within the "guides" subsection of the wiki, I couldn't find it...

Knobley

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Originally Posted by 'Araketh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=154082#post 154082

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I was looking at my keyclone keymap editor ok i did on the key line i put as a key command lctrl+lalt+< now the hotstring is the??? and then where would u bind that long macro to cause it doesnt seem like it would fit

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The target/cast macro should be bound to < ingame.

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Originally Posted by 'sactown',index.php?page=Thread&postID=154077#post 154077

Im new to dual boxing. Let me know a little bit about it. you can send an email sactown.916@hotmail.com

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LET ME SHOW YOU MY DUAL BOXINGS.

Sorry, but that's either spam (in which case, fail) or you're really lazy and posting in the wrong thread if you're new to all this.

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Ok i think im understanding this now more cause of your link then the keymap tutorial but one thing. Ok now to distinguish the leader can i put the modifier macro only on one button like the follow so say i hit alt shift q it makes them all follow and focus on that toon and then say for toon 2 its alt shift w to let the rest know they now follow that or do i hae to make all the spells have that same macro. As say my shaman wanted to cast lightning bolt on toon 1 does toon 2-5 have to have a macro do cast that spell or can they have the reg spell on the action bar. I dont know if thats clear enough but heres a lil more. As of right now each and everyone of my toons spells say /cast [target=focustarget] lightning bolt do i have to do anything like that on the toons or the modifier macro i put on my follow button take care of all that so i only have say three macros total my ftl macro invite and accept macros.

I've gave it a shot to this FTL setupyesterday, and I'm now benchmarking the swiftness of the macros, and the target change which is one of the major issue to me.

When I'm using the "Focus setup" with leader assigned by a key (which set the focus and made the clones follow their leader), there's an annoying 'lag' when casting... if I change my target and don't wait enough until I cast again.. whatever I cast (heal or harm spell), my clones won't EVER switch target as quickly as I am... I can understand that the ping and blabla but I was hoping that the FTL described here would be solving the major 'focus setup' issue : the lag on target change.. but it's not !!!
Targets seems to be changed quicker than with the Focus setup.. but not that much .. I'm disapointed...

Is there any trick around here to reduce to its strict minimum the lag on target change ?

Anyway, this FTL setup is harder to set-up, it blow ur mind when you set the ctrl/alt/shift but it's afterall an easyest way to quickly change the main toon .. I mean ... with the 3.0.3 and my focus setup, when the main died or lose its controls.. the clones also lose theirs .. they wait until I get control again on my main, and needless to say.. they are waiting for me to rez myself before continuing any action... which seems to be an solved issue with the FTL setup...
Thank you all ..
and, please forgive my faulty english :P

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Originally Posted by 'king.pa',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160490#post 160490

I've gave it a shot to this FTL setupyesterday, and I'm now benchmarking the swiftness of the macros, and the target change which is one of the major issue to me.

When I'm using the "Focus setup" with leader assigned by a key (which set the focus and made the clones follow their leader), there's an annoying 'lag' when casting... if I change my target and don't wait enough until I cast again.. whatever I cast (heal or harm spell), my clones won't EVER switch target as quickly as I am... I can understand that the ping and blabla but I was hoping that the FTL described here would be solving the major 'focus setup' issue : the lag on target change.. but it's not !!!
Targets seems to be changed quicker than with the Focus setup.. but not that much .. I'm disapointed...

Is there any trick around here to reduce to its strict minimum the lag on target change ?

Anyway, this FTL setup is harder to set-up, it blow ur mind when you set the ctrl/alt/shift but it's afterall an easyest way to quickly change the main toon .. I mean ... with the 3.0.3 and my focus setup, when the main died or lose its controls.. the clones also lose theirs .. they wait until I get control again on my main, and needless to say.. they are waiting for me to rez myself before continuing any action... which seems to be an solved issue with the FTL setup...
Thank you all ..
and, please forgive my faulty english :P

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The only thing I could think of hampering this is your actual internet connection.
Keep in mind that when you switch targets, you send a packet saying "I am targeting this now" to the Blizzard server.
The Bilzzard server must then process this, and send it back to your clones that "<main char> is now targeting this mob"

Once they get that message they can switch

This is f...g long ... it's counted on miliseconds... but it's really long...
thnaks for the heads up
i'm now looking into the way to heal my party using party1, party2 etc etc .. well... i'm not done yet :)

Keep in mind the /party1/2/3/4/5 targets change depending on the character (Or so I've experienced)


As for Focusless/targetless/leaderless....love it. But I dread making my other (two) teams run this setup.

Okay so now that i am recovered from the 17 page read (all of which is very good info but doesn't help me figure out my problem i don't think).

So i tried setting this up across my 5-man team and the problem that i am having is that the hotstrings are only being sent when two of the windows are focused. What i mean by this is i have five characters names are phort(main), phord(slave), phorc(slave), phorta(slave), and Phorb(slave).
Now if im focused of PIP'ed to phord the hotstrings work fine and broadcast to all the windows and my guys all follow phord. The same happens with phorb when he is my main screen i can get all the other toons to follow him. I just cant seem to get the keys to broadcast across with the other toons.

The way i have the hotstrings is as follows:

Phort:
1---->TT1
LCTRL+LALT+I------------>TT2
LSHIFT+LALT+I-------------TT3
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I----TT4
LCTRL+I------>TT5

PHORD:

LSHIFT+LCTRL+I---->TT1
1------------>TT2
LSHIFT+LALT+I-------------TT3
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I----TT4
LCTRL+I------>TT5

PHORC:

LSHIFT+LCTRL+I---->TT1
LCTRL+LALT+I------------>TT2
1-------------TT3
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I----TT4
LCTRL+I------>TT5

PHORTA:

LSHIFT+LCTRL+I---->TT1
LCTRL+LALT+I------------>TT2
LSHIFT+LALT+I-------------TT3
1----TT4
LCTRL+I------>TT5

PHORB:

LSHIFT+LCTRL+I---->TT1
LCTRL+LALT+I------------>TT2
LSHIFT+LALT+I-------------TT3
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I----TT4
1------>TT5

Like I said the problem that i am having is the "I" key being broadcasted to my chars when PHORT, PHORC, or PHORTA are the main. Any help with this issue would be awesome.

hi, on first glance your hotstrings look ok, so I would guess the problem you described lies in the keybinding in wow.

What you described would occure, if 'shift+i' is not unbind on all the 5 toons, but binded to another action.
So the first thing I would do is check if this is the case, and if so to unbind shift+i and test again.

Quick crossposting: [HotKeyNet] Implementing an FTL quite simple with templates

a short guide, how to do the hotsringing with hotkeynet realy simple...

Thanks for the quick reply. At first thought i thought that might be what it was as well but went in and check all keybindings and nothing was bound to those strings. Also i'm not sure if that would explain why I can get the keys to broadcast with two of my toons but not when the other three are the main. Again any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated.

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Also i'm not sure if that would explain why I can get the keys to broadcast with two of my toons but not when the other three are the main

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It would explain it, because all toons where it doesn't work Phort(LSHIFT+LCTRL+I), PHORC (LSHIFT+LALT+I) and PHORA (LSHIFT+LALT+ LCTRL + I) use shift in their modifiercombination, which identivies them.
So if shift+i would be bound to another action, the follow-macro which is on i would not get triggered.
Could you maybe check the keybinding-file for all toons if shift+i is realy unbound? -Or maybe post the macro you bound to i, for more helping/guessing?

Well i guess that i didn't look for just SHIFT+I that could be the problem. I knew there was a reason everyone came to this forum.... I will try when i get home from work thanks for the help.

I attempted to get this working a couple months ago, but after many tries couldn't find a workable solution. As I was just getting my teams going I went back to a focus based set-up and proceeded to level up a few RAF groups. Fast forward to today, I find that I would really like to free up focus, so I've taken a second look at the FTL set-up. My understanding is a bit better now, so I'm hoping I can more clearly articulate the problem I'm encountering than I did back in November.

The set-up works well for abilities that are tied to one key, however, I'm having trouble when using shift+key. Take for example Shift+4. I have the following hotstrings set-up for this as follows..

Decianax:
LSHIFT+4 --------------> S4A
LCTRL+LALT+K ----------> S4E
LSHIFT+LALT+K ---------> S4I
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+K ---> S4O
LCTRL+K ---------------> S4U

Decianex:
LSHIFT+LCTRL+K --------> S4A
LSHIFT+4 --------------> S4E
LSHIFT+LALT+K ---------> S4I
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+K ---> S4O
LCTRL+K ---------------> S4U

Decianix:
LSHIFT+LCTRL+K --------> S4A
LCTRL+LALT+K ----------> S4E
LSHIFT+4 --------------> S4I
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+K ---> S4O
LCTRL+K ---------------> S4U

Decianox:
LSHIFT+LCTRL+K --------> S4A
LCTRL+LALT+K ----------> S4E
LSHIFT+LALT+K ---------> S4I
LSHIFT+4 --------------> S4O
LCTRL+K ---------------> S4U

Decianux:
LSHIFT+LCTRL+K --------> S4A
LCTRL+LALT+K ----------> S4E
LSHIFT+LALT+K ---------> S4I
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+K ---> S4O
LSHIFT+4 --------------> S4U

In game Starfire is set to Shift+4 on each character's action bars. The macro for Starfire on each character is tied to the K key and is as follows...

/assist
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Decianax][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Decianex]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Decianix]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Decianox]
[mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Decianux]
/cast Starfire

When I'm playing Decianax, Decianix, or Decianox, and I hit Shift+4 everything works fine, all characters get the correct target and 5 Starfires begin to cast. However, if I target a mob with Decianex or Decianux and hit Shift+4, the other characters do not get a target. It seems what is happening, is when Decianex hits Shift+4 the S4E hotstring gets triggered, and LCTRL+LALT+K are triggered on the other characters, but the shift is getting passed as well. What this means is that the other characters get passed the modifier sequence for Decianox (mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift) and try to assist, but only Decianex has the target so the spell fails on the slaves.

The same is true for Decianux, rather than just the CTRL modifier being passed through the hotstring, the Shift from pressing Shift+4 also gets passed, and the assist target is Decianax.

There must be a work around for this, as it seems people do bind abilities to Shift+Key with this set-up. With 5 characters, dropping shift as a modifier in the assist macro unfortunately isn't an option, as there aren't enough combinations of modifiers without it. It doesn't appear that I can put shift on a do-not-pass list, unless I'm missing something. Anyone have an idea how I can fix this, so using Shift+Key works on all characters?

Cancel this, found it in the wiki.

ok i'm seriously lost... can someone tell me whats wrong here?

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Lightning Bolt
ToonA:

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Osera]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Osora]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Osura]
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

ToonB:

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Osira]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Osora]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Osura]
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

ToonC:

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Osira]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Osera]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Osura]
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

ToonD:

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Osira]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Osera]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Osora]
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

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i have bound it on every char to "U" since it was free... was that wrong?

please can someone help me fix this^^

thanks already,
rip-rip

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Originally Posted by 'Pocalypse',index.php?page=Thread&postID=103921#po st103921

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=ToonC]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=ToonD]
[mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonE]
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

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would target=party1 work in place of "ToonA" in this setup?

im not sure how WoW handles the party window, but if your characters are always in the same party slots (1through5).. wouldnt using party# to target mean you could have a universal set of hotstrings/macros no matter which group youre playing?

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Originally Posted by 'Jezebel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=179207#post 179207

im not sure how WoW handles the party window, but if your characters are always in the same party slots (1through5).. wouldnt using party# to target mean you could have a universal set of hotstrings/macros no matter which group youre playing?

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No, party1-n are different on different characters. I can never remember what the system is. It's something like party1 is always the player or always the main except on the main. At any rate, it screws up a system based on hard coded IDs.

If you want an alternative check out my addon ActionBarTargeting. It gives you macro buttons Toon1 - Toon2 in a consistent order that you can /click. Sounds more like what you want.

Thank you for sharing all this info, however while I thought I finally understood I am still unable to make this work like it should.

I am going to copy and paste my KCL files and perhaps I can figure out where I am going wrong.


I am running 4 shamans.

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Maleick (1) ctrl
Nurbok (2) alt
Voon (3) ctrl-shift
Lycoon (4) alt-shift
*TF1-4 = Toon Follow 1-4
*TT1-4 = Toon Target 1-4
FOLLOW MACRO: Bound to " ` " on all toons
/stopmacro [nomod]
/target [mod:ctrl,nomod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Maleick]
[mod:alt,nomod:ctrl,nomod:shift,target=Nurbok]
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Voon]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Lycoon]
/follow
/targetlasttarget


ASSIST MACRO: Bound to " J " on all toons
/stopmacro [nomod]
/target [mod:ctrl,nomod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Maleick]
[mod:alt,nomod:ctrl,nomod:shift,target=Nurbok]
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Voon]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Lycoon]
/target [target=targettarget]

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Maleick.kcl Loaded to Main Character on keymap region 1

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Maleick
k(74.0.0):hs(tt1)
k(74.5.5):hs(tt3)
k(74.16.16):hs(tt2)
k(74.17.17):hs(tt4)
k(192.0.0):hs(tf1)
k(192.5.5):hs(tf3)
k(192.16.16):hs(tf2)
k(192.17.17):hs(tf4)

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Nurbok.kcl Loaded to Alt 1 in region 2

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Nurbok
k(74.0.0):hs(tt2)
k(74.4.4):hs(tt1)
k(74.5.5):hs(tt3)
k(74.17.17):hs(tt4)
k(192.0.0):hs(tf2)
k(192.4.4):hs(tf1)
k(192.5.5):hs(tf3)
k(192.17.17):hs(tf4)

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Voon.kcl Loaded to Alt 2 in region 3

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Voon
k(74.0.0):hs(tt3)
k(74.4.4):hs(tt1)
k(74.16.16):hs(tt2)
k(74.17.17):hs(tt4)
k(192.0.0):hs(tf3)
k(192.4.4):hs(tf1)
k(192.16.16):hs(tf2)
k(192.17.17):hs(tf4)

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Lycoon.kcl Loaded to alt 3 in region4

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Lycoon
k(74.0.0):hs(tt4)
k(74.4.4):hs(tt1)
k(74.5.5):hs(tt3)
k(74.16.16):hs(tt2)
k(192.0.0):hs(tt4)
k(192.4.4):hs(tf1)
k(192.5.5):hs(tt3)
k(192.16.16):hs(tt2)

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I am going to take some screenies of how I have keyclone set up as well incase that makes more sense.

When I load all the toons up Voon (3) will follow or target but he will spit out a bunch of garbage and the others do nothing. If I PiP to Voon then Maleick(1) will spit out the garbage and the other two still do nothing.

I made sure Keyclone is passing the keys and they on are not on the DNP list. and none of the keys are bound to anything in Warcraft.

Thanks

I fixed it. It was the spaces in the macro. It needs to be like


/stopmacro [nomod]
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Maleick][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Nurbok][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Voon][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Lycoon]
/follow
/targetlasttarget



I found it reading, thanks!

I spent some time redoing my setup this morning, and wanted to share the fruits of my labour.

What I did was create all the .kcl keymap files from scratch using excel (or rather, google spreadsheets). I worked out what each key is that I needed (inside the keyclone file itself), and how the modifiers work.

The keys I have setup are 1-8 R T F G V
You can see what the hidden keys for each are in the top left of the spreadsheet.

It's kinda messy, but for those interested I'm sure you can figure it out.

The end result is, I can copy the values in columns P - T into a new text file (one column into each file) name them One.kcl Two.kcl etc, and they work in keyclone.

The spreadsheet is at link. Please go to the sheet names keymaps if it doesn't take you there automatically.

The hotstrings are named "key - client"

eg
' - Three
4 - Five
etc

Edit: Hmm, that kinda sucks, you can't see the formulas when viewing. Ah well, the end results are there if anyone wants them.

Nice thing Pocalypse,
i think it will help out some keyclone-users quite a bit :) !

Btw.: Do you still use the initial idea of a master - and a slave-keybind in your new setup?
-I'm asking, cause I myself often simply use the same keybind (for example: my 'master' gets '1' my slave 'ctrl+alt+1'), as i often don't have the need for 'solo-bindings'.
-Some other things I changed in my setup, is getting rid of the 'targetless' and using more an 'target-and-hold' approach, which suites my PVE-setup more..

-I find it quite funny, like methods like this can 'evolve' (and sometimes have consequences I would have never guessed, like writing guides, using HKN instead of Keyclone and so on...)

Yes, I still use the master and slave keybinds, mainly because I use the alt+1, shift+1 and ctrl+1 modifiers for separate abilities.

I've thought a lot of setting up a target and hold approach now that I'm doing instances again. If I can find an easy way to quickly switch between the two methods, I'll probably do it.
I'm mainly waiting on the patch now though, to see what macaroon 3.1 is capable of.

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Yes, I still use the master and slave keybinds, mainly because I use the alt+1, shift+1 and ctrl+1 modifiers for separate abilities.

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yeah, i also use alt,ctrl,shift for seperate abilities in my macros, even with using the same master- and slavekeys.
This was one of the main reason for me using HKN, as you can us ralt,rctrl,rshift for the ftl-window-identifiers and lalt,lctr,lalt in the macros...

so for example my hunter dps macro looks like this:

/click MacaroonButton12
/castsequence reset=target/lshift Serpent Sting,Null
/cast [mod:lalt] Multi Shot
/castsequence Explosive Shot, Steady Shot, Steady Shot

with my ftl-targeting-and-hold-macro on MacaroonButton12 being:
/stopmacro [harm,nodead]
/assist [mod:ralt, ... (as ftl-mods as usual)

(In my HKN-Script i would add the following for '2' as my dps button:
<ApplyTemplate FTL "2" "2">
<ApplyTemplate FTL "lshift 2" "lshift 2">
<ApplyTemplate FTL "lalt 2" "lalt 2">
but this is better described here: [HotKeyNet] Implementing an FTL quite simple with templates )

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If I can find an easy way to quickly switch between the two methods, I'll probably do it.

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well, you could use the idea of switching ActionBars combined with the /click in the Macros for this (i do something simmilar to simply chnage between my trash/boss-dps macros).
What I mean is:
Lets say you create a 'paged' bar with macaroon (with only one button), on the first 'page' you create the normale '/assist'-macro on the second the target-and-hold-one (and on the third a focus-based approach for vehicles ;) ). The button should always have the same 'name' so you could simply refer to him in all your dps-macros regardless of which actual 'system' you are using.

Interesting, I don't know why I thought WoW did not distinguish between left and right modifiers. This opens up a lot of possibilities.

That's a very clean method of switching you have, I'll try it out next time I have some time.

Though I really should just get to 80 before messing with this more :).

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Interesting, I don't know why I thought WoW did not distinguish between left and right modifiers.

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Well, this may be, because even WoW can handle lalt/ralt .. perfectly, keyclone can't (and because the majority is using keyclone it somehow got known, as WoW can't)!

Keyclone distinguishes between lalt and ralt, at least in the keymap settings.

I've never tested to see if this actually works, although I will soon.

Jep, in the settings it does, but I think there where several bugreports, that it doesn't send the right key,
like: [Keyclone] Right Alt and Right Shift with keyclone?
and [Keyclone] Modifer bug in keyclone? help
and since there isn't a new version since june 08, I think they are still exists

I see, that's good to know. Well, I'll still play around with it to see what I can use and what I can't.

Hello!

I got my two key setup working just fine for FL Setup (no T) as I used olipcs idea. Everything works fine however I would like to use either Shift or Ctrl as a focus cast modifier, when I set Ctrl or Shift in WoW Interface as focus modifier then everything goes haywire for my Follow and Target buttons. I am using Keyclone in Vista. Here is my Setup perhaps I can change the modifiers to Alt,Ctrl, Alt+Ctrl and I can't come up with a 4th to avoid using Shift so I can use it for the focus casting. Also another thing that confused me is I have Self Cast set to Alt in WoW Interface settings and it works fine. I am running 4 shamans. I like just having the ASSIST Macro and the FOLLOW Macro for now but I want to be able to set a focus to cast heals or CC without losing my target.

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Maleick (1) shift - ctrl
Nurbok (2) ctrl - alt
Voon (3) shift - alt
Lycoon (4) shift - ctrl - alt
*TF1-4 = Toon Follow 1-4
*TT1-4 = Toon Target 1-4
FOLLOW MACRO: Bound to " ` " on all toons
/stopmacro [nomod]
/target [mod:shift,mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,target=Maleick] [mod:alt,mod:ctrl,nomod:shift,target=Nurbok] [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Voon] [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Lycoon]
/follow
/targetlasttarget

ASSIST MACRO: Bound to " J " on all toons
/stopmacro [nomod]
/target [mod:shift,mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,target=Maleick] [mod:alt,mod:ctrl,nomod:shift,target=Nurbok] [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Voon] [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Lycoon]
/target [target=targettarget]

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Here are two problems:

1. You are using the same modifier-combination for Voon and Lycoon (alt + shift), this need to be different.

2. What you want is not easy to achive, because you need the modifiers alt,shift,ctrl to identify which toon is leading (because you are using more than 3 toons, and there is no combination for the fourth toon, what you found out...).

What you can do, in theory to achive the above is using a tool which can correctly differentiate between left/right alt/ctrl/shift and define the modifers for your toons like this:

Malerick = lAlt
Nubork = rAlt
Voon = lAlt + rAlt
Lycoon = rAlt + rctrl

now shift is 'free' and you could use it for the 'cast on focus'. (Btw. HKN is a tool which can do this).

On short question at the end:
Wat is the reason you need the 'cast on focus' in your follow and target macro?
What I don't understand here is, what you want to achive by this. -Could you describe what you want to happen when you press the 'cast on focus'-modifier and the follow/target macro?

I just wanted to say Thanks!!!!!!! I read this entire thread at work, and couldn't wait to try it at home. I have to admit to not being great at all this stuff, and I was able to get it set up. I can now follow and use lightning. I will set up the rest tonight. I never would have thought to use strings or binds like this. I love the set up. Thanks again for sharing. :P

Hi iv been reading up on ur hotstrings idea and i cannot get mine to work. my toons are called toonaa/toonbb/tooncc/toondd so i would not have to alter macro much.

My follow macro in particular;
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Toonaa] [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Toonbb] [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Tooncc] [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Toondd]
/follow
/targetlasttarget

My toons are running the same strings as urs; with different hidden macro key "-" (next to =+ is the silent macro key)

` --> FOA
Ctrl-alt - --> FOB
Alt-Shift - --> FOC
Ctrl-Alt-Shift - --> FOD

ToonB:

Ctrl-Shift - --> FOA
` --> FOB
Alt-Shift - --> FOC
Ctrl-Alt-Shift - --> FOD

ToonC:

Ctrl-Shift - --> FOA
Ctrl-alt - --> FOB
` --> FOC
Ctrl-Alt-Shift - --> FOD
Ctrl - --> FOE

ToonD:

Ctrl-Shift - --> FOA
Ctrl-alt - --> FOB
Alt-Shift - --> FOC
` --> FOD

The funny thing is toon B can lead toon A but not the other way around... what am i missing here?

I am no expert, I just got up and running this week, but my problems were with my macros and not with my strings. One time, I had an extra / in the macro.

I also had shift I macroed to pet attack on some characters but not others, so it worked on half of them, but not the rest. Once I got rid of that, then they all worked perfectly.

After a great deal of playing i figgured out that i was running a bad macro. TY for your help. but mainly for this thread. It quite literaly contains anything you need to know about the FTL method. I personaly find no use for the Targetless part. (i intend on arenaing, but once a flame shok is up x4 on a target... i don't think who im aiming on is going to be a suprise. Lol)

After searching through a bunch of pages within this thread I have been unable to find an answer so I thought I'd ask. I'm using a four shammy set up and I'm copying the examples on the first page sans the fifth line referring to toon E (in both the Hotstring and Macro). I have set this up successfully on my 5 Warlock Set Up where it worked well but now I wish to use it on my mains. The key stroke is being set up properly as I can see it being sent to my slaves only they aren't responding. They won't follow OR cast lightning bolt.

I have a feeling this has to do with the macro but I am unsure. The example of my hotstring for toon A is:

2 --> LBAT
Ctrl-alt-] --> LBBT
Alt-Shift-] --> LBCT
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-] --> LBDT

and for the macro:

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=ToonC]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=ToonD]
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

Do I need to alter anything? Why do my hotstring/macros not work with a four shammy set up? Help. :(

EDIT: Got follow to now work, can't get my shammies to cast Lightning Bolt though.

I tried that a while back as well, but now I use:
/assist [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=ToonC]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=ToonD]
/cast Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

It worked much better for me this way. Was quicker response time as well.

ok so i get the ingame stuff but i dont understand the hotstring or how to put it into keyclone or what to type in keyclone nuthin plz help im confused